Re:NeedaNapHave you contacted the authorities--Social Services or
whomever administers the foodstamps (SNAP) program in the state where the
country club family lives? If what you say is true, they very well could be
committing fraud which you should report as you would any other criminal
activity.The average food stamp allotment (varies by state) is
$133/mon for a single person, $289/mon for a household.We definitely
spend more than that on food, especially when including all meals eaten outside
the home. For most healthy adults between the ages of 18 and 50
(without children), SNAP benefits are limited to a 3-month period, at which
point the recipient will have to submit a renewal application. Most households
under the SNAP program receive benefits for a 6-month period before requiring
renewal. Benefit periods can range from 1 month to 3 years.More than
half of SNAP recipients are children or the elderly.Re:KiddsportRepublicans participated in committees developing the ACA. Not only did
Republican ideas become the framework for the ACA, some ideas were included in
the Senate version of the ACA.
The amount they pay out for food stamps is much higher, than any of us
"working folks" could ever spend on groceries. They need to lower the
amount so low,that they do better working rather than lying at home. We know a
family who has collected food stamps for 3 years. They have a large home,went to
Hawaii last summer,have a country club membership and a condo in Vegas. Neither
of the parents have worked for 3 years.
Truthseeker:I took your advice and watched the CSPAN video of the
committee hearing in the House of September 30th. It was all I could do to
contain myself to hear Rep. Slaughter of NY stand there and complain how the
Dems had "no fingerprints" on the House bill, not having a chance to
provide input until the committee meeting. She must feel much the same as the
Republicans who were shut out of the hearings in formulating Obamacare in the
first place. There are "no fingerprints" of the Republican party on this
ACA atrocity. To use the vernacular of the left, don't dump your trash on
my front yard and tell me I have to pay for it.
Dependency is not compassion. Dependency is just another form of slavery and
easy welfare creates even more dependency. Break off your chains of slavery and
learn to live independently. Your life will be much better.
I recall the story of a flock of seagulls in Louisiana that became accustomed to
feeding off the easy living of a fish processing plant. One day the processing
plant moved and the seagulls, unable to fend for themselves, began to starve
because they didn't know how to survive on their own. Anyone who is living
on the dole or who is employed by such an enterprise needs to look in the
crystal ball and see your future as a starving seagull.
Short term safety net is great, but should be done by local churches,
communities, or relatives.
I'm concerned about the program costs. The math in the article is fuzzy.So, you've got 66,000 participants. (Is that individuals or
families?)The most generous guess is 66,000 families. And the average
payout is $300.Do the math. That's just shy of $20 million. But the
program costs $30 million a month.Who in their right mind would give to a
charity with 33% admin costs? Yet this appears to be the slippage here.
Even if you account for $2 million to pay the 625 workers you've still got
$8 million unaccounted for.What am I missing here?
I really support a safety net for people who need the help on a short-term
basis. But the food stamp program is heavily abused. Last night, a family came
in to shop at the store where I am a cashier. They bought lots of expensive
foods, including four packages of sushi - stuff I don't even buy. Why
should I be paying for luxury eating for people on government assistance? These
people were young, well-dressed, and in my opinion, able to work. I don't
get it. Oh, and many food stampers still seem to have plenty of money to buy
their beer while I'm buying their food. Wrong. Dead wrong.
My first semester of college, I had some bad grades. Paying for the tuition, my
parents were rightfully upset, and angry with me. I learned an important lesson
from this. After this first semester, I totally paid my way through
college. It was sweet, to not answer for grades. It felt great, and satisfying
doing things for myself.The same can be said for food stamps, and
WIC. Life is sweet when you're not dependent, or answering to someone else
for your meals. This shutdown wouldn't matter.True liberty
comes from responsibility, and self reliance.
One only has to watch the House Rules Committee meeting of Sept. 30 2013
(available on CSPAN video) to understand exactly how we got here. The House
Rules Committee consists of 9 Republicans--including Rob Bishop of Utah--and 4
Democrats. The plan crafted by Republicans was to resist going to conference
with the Senate for 6 mons. (March-Sept) in order to get concessions under
threat of govt. shutdown and in doing so they thought they could force through
defunding/delaying Obamacare. The Senate has voted on a measure offered by the
House. The House has not held a vote on any measure offered by the Senate. In
fact, the Republican House Rules Committee members changed the rules of the
House Sept. 30, to prevent any chance that a Senate measure might be offered for
a vote. The Republicans in Congress are letting extremists call
the shots and are risking the credit worthiness of the U.S.--which will simply
add even more to the debt.
The ones that most need the help have the least do with the shutdown, but must
bear the penalty of Congress's inability to act like adults.