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Published: Tuesday, Oct. 15 2013 4:50 p.m. MDT

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Darrel
Eagle Mountain, UT

The ones that most need the help have the least do with the shutdown, but must bear the penalty of Congress's inability to act like adults.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

One only has to watch the House Rules Committee meeting of Sept. 30 2013 (available on CSPAN video) to understand exactly how we got here. The House Rules Committee consists of 9 Republicans--including Rob Bishop of Utah--and 4 Democrats. The plan crafted by Republicans was to resist going to conference with the Senate for 6 mons. (March-Sept) in order to get concessions under threat of govt. shutdown and in doing so they thought they could force through defunding/delaying Obamacare. The Senate has voted on a measure offered by the House. The House has not held a vote on any measure offered by the Senate. In fact, the Republican House Rules Committee members changed the rules of the House Sept. 30, to prevent any chance that a Senate measure might be offered for a vote.

The Republicans in Congress are letting extremists call the shots and are risking the credit worthiness of the U.S.--which will simply add even more to the debt.

worf
Mcallen, TX

My first semester of college, I had some bad grades. Paying for the tuition, my parents were rightfully upset, and angry with me. I learned an important lesson from this.

After this first semester, I totally paid my way through college. It was sweet, to not answer for grades. It felt great, and satisfying doing things for myself.

The same can be said for food stamps, and WIC. Life is sweet when you're not dependent, or answering to someone else for your meals. This shutdown wouldn't matter.

True liberty comes from responsibility, and self reliance.

birder
Salt Lake City, UT

I really support a safety net for people who need the help on a short-term basis. But the food stamp program is heavily abused. Last night, a family came in to shop at the store where I am a cashier. They bought lots of expensive foods, including four packages of sushi - stuff I don't even buy. Why should I be paying for luxury eating for people on government assistance? These people were young, well-dressed, and in my opinion, able to work. I don't get it. Oh, and many food stampers still seem to have plenty of money to buy their beer while I'm buying their food. Wrong. Dead wrong.

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

I'm concerned about the program costs. The math in the article is fuzzy.
So, you've got 66,000 participants. (Is that individuals or families?)
The most generous guess is 66,000 families. And the average payout is $300.
Do the math. That's just shy of $20 million. But the program costs $30 million a month.
Who in their right mind would give to a charity with 33% admin costs?
Yet this appears to be the slippage here. Even if you account for $2 million to pay the 625 workers you've still got $8 million unaccounted for.
What am I missing here?

worf
Mcallen, TX

Short term safety net is great, but should be done by local churches, communities, or relatives.

kiddsport
Fairview, UT

I recall the story of a flock of seagulls in Louisiana that became accustomed to feeding off the easy living of a fish processing plant. One day the processing plant moved and the seagulls, unable to fend for themselves, began to starve because they didn't know how to survive on their own. Anyone who is living on the dole or who is employed by such an enterprise needs to look in the crystal ball and see your future as a starving seagull.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Dependency is not compassion. Dependency is just another form of slavery and easy welfare creates even more dependency. Break off your chains of slavery and learn to live independently. Your life will be much better.

kiddsport
Fairview, UT

Truthseeker:
I took your advice and watched the CSPAN video of the committee hearing in the House of September 30th. It was all I could do to contain myself to hear Rep. Slaughter of NY stand there and complain how the Dems had "no fingerprints" on the House bill, not having a chance to provide input until the committee meeting. She must feel much the same as the Republicans who were shut out of the hearings in formulating Obamacare in the first place. There are "no fingerprints" of the Republican party on this ACA atrocity. To use the vernacular of the left, don't dump your trash on my front yard and tell me I have to pay for it.

Needa Nap
St.George, UT

The amount they pay out for food stamps is much higher, than any of us "working folks" could ever spend on groceries. They need to lower the amount so low,that they do better working rather than lying at home. We know a family who has collected food stamps for 3 years. They have a large home,went to Hawaii last summer,have a country club membership and a condo in Vegas. Neither of the parents have worked for 3 years.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Re:NeedaNap

Have you contacted the authorities--Social Services or whomever administers the foodstamps (SNAP) program in the state where the country club family lives? If what you say is true, they very well could be committing fraud which you should report as you would any other criminal activity.

The average food stamp allotment (varies by state) is $133/mon for a single person, $289/mon for a household.

We definitely spend more than that on food, especially when including all meals eaten outside the home.

For most healthy adults between the ages of 18 and 50 (without children), SNAP benefits are limited to a 3-month period, at which point the recipient will have to submit a renewal application. Most households under the SNAP program receive benefits for a 6-month period before requiring renewal. Benefit periods can range from 1 month to 3 years.

More than half of SNAP recipients are children or the elderly.

Re:Kiddsport
Republicans participated in committees developing the ACA. Not only did Republican ideas become the framework for the ACA, some ideas were included in the Senate version of the ACA.

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