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Published: Tuesday, Oct. 15 2013 9:55 a.m. MDT

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The Watch Dog
tumwater, WA

If you only get ESPN or ESPN2 forget about watching BYU right now and flip on your internet radio. Some cable networks only carry those two stations in the basic cable package. It's great that they're getting better air time but, depending on who they play (ie. Notre Dame, Wisconsin, etc.), they're still ESPN bottom feeders - but at least they are in the programming discussion now. Like Holmoe said, though, they can improve their air time if they win their games. I want to believe that is a long-term prodiction.

Stringer Bell
Henderson, NV

You had better get used to Independence. The Big 12 window of opportunity has been closed for good thanks to BYU's arrogance. I believe they have moved on and don't see that opportunity returning.

Salt Lake City, UT


"It would be nice if I could get ESPNu in HD."

All you have to do is call Comcast and request ESPNU in HD. It's available.

Warrior Parent
Belle Glade, FL

I love ESPN's coverage and BYUTV's rebroadcasts. best of both worlds!

scenic view
Baltimore, MD

The Watch Dog

"If you only get ESPN or ESPN2 forget about watching BYU right now and flip on your internet radio. Some cable networks only carry those two stations in the basic cable package."

Who cares about "basic"? If you're a true BYU fan, paying a few bucks a month to watch BYU football is not a big deal. The extra cost to get ESPNU is far less than the cost of one ticket for one game.

Cheyenne, WY

@ Stringer Bell
No door is ever closed. If BYU gets a conference a better TV contract then BYU has a home. Main reason why conferences expanded in the first place was money and championship games.

West Valley, UT

I think the MWC had a bad tv deal in the past, but now looking at all the Utah State games this year the MWC has a decent tv deals with CBS sports and USU even had a game on CBS which more people have access to than ESPN. I think being independent was good for BYU at the time but I think a conference would be better now than being indy.

Salt Lake City, UT

Yes BYU belongs in a conference, and without question AD Tom Holmoe & Cecil Samuelson wanted to get into the Big 12 just over 2 years ago. Politics at LDS Church headquarters as much or more than the "no Sunday play" rules (media partners indicate BYU will work in larger leagues with more scheduling options) sadly put the kibosh on this. There are those in LDS Church leadership who strongly feel BYU should remain an undergraduate focused university and feel that the school moving into larger more affluent leagues like the Big 12 or Pac-12 would threaten this. Similarly they feel BYU should never detract from the mission of state schools, and BYU being in the Big 12 along with Utah in the Pac-12 would totally bury Utah State University potentially lowering their relevance to the levels of Utah Valley, Weber State or Southern Utah Universities. Consequently Holmoe had no choice but to craft this interim independence solution given the political hand he's been dealt with. Thanksfully Holmoe has had the brand value built up over the past 40 years to be able to have this option with ESPN.

Spanish Fork, UT

Love Lavell, but I disagree that a conference championship is a big deal when that conference has weak teams. It's not so much a victory as an expectation. Boring.

I've talked to many BYU players and they consistently find independence it's own challenge with differing standards for calling a season a good season. And losing one or two or even three games does NOT end the challenges for a season any more than if you were independent. Utah, for example, pretty much has zero chance of going to a Rose Bowl, but, there is much to work for despite not even a division crown.

Love Bronco too, but, I don't think he's right when he says Utah being in the PAC12 doesn't give Utah an advantage. I suspect that should BYU be in the Big 12 some of the 4 star recruits BYU is barely missing out on would land here. Can't prove it, but from comments players have made, that is reasonable.

Ken Lee
Pasadena, CA

Hey, you monkeys carping about a heirachy of the various ESPN channels should just relax. No one cares or differentiates which ESPN channel you are on...they are ALL carried on cable/satellite equally and they all have big name schools sprinkled throughout. Which one of you discards other non-BYU games because they come on ESPNU or whatever? DIfferent on ESPN3 --computer based online garbage...I can't make that even work...

Wayne Rout
El Paso, TX

So Bronco's love and dedication to our former quarterback could have been very expensive. I'm sure ESPN was not happy with the kind of teams we fielded in 2011 and 2012. A great defense was wasted on an offense that could not have won the WAC championship. Now we're starting over, but actually going back to the 2010 offense. We're back to a lack of imagination in the offense. Why not hire a REAL offensive coordinator and then our value to ESPN would grow. That is exactly what Utah did when it became clear that and experienced man was needed. They are getting their money's worth.

Mormon Ute
Kaysville, UT

I have to challenge the writer's assertion that the Pac 12 Network's distribution issues are anywhere close to what happened with the mtn. The Pac 12 Network is on basic cable in every market in the Pac 12 area and most nationwide. Dish Network also carries it in basic packages nationwide. Yes, missing out on DirectTV bites, but doesn't come close to the obscurity under which the mtn operated. Also, the Pac 12 Network is HD and is very professionally produced. In addition to this, the Pac 12 TV deal includes games on ESPN and Fox giving the Pac 12 access to Fox broadcast channels and Fox Sports 1. The writer may have missed the fact that the Utah - USU game was the first college football game televised on Fox Sports 1. The Utes have had one other game on that network with all others on ESPN, ESPN2 or the Pac 12 Network. BYU has had at least two games hidden away on ESPNU this season. I'll take the Pac 12 any day.

Solomon Levi
Alpine, UT

Mormon Ute

"BYU has had at least two games hidden away on ESPNU this season."

LOL at mischaracterization of ESPNU.

ESPNU is available nationwide in approximately 75 million households and has long-term carriage agreements with all 10 of the top multichannel TV providers – Cablevision, Charter, Comcast, Cox, DirecTV (Channel 208), DISH Network (Channel 141), Mediacom, Time Warner Cable, Verizon FiOS TV and AT&T U-verse.

The PAC 12 Networks are available nationwide in approximately 48 million households, but 20 million DirecTV subscribers still can’t get the Pac-12 Networks.

Orem, UT

For $10 more per month, about the cost of popcorn and a drink at a movie theater,
anyone who's interested can get ESPNU with Comcast's Digital Preferred Package.

Fans making a big deal about how "inaccessible" ESPNU is because it's not included in the basic tier of channels are just blowing smoke.

Bleed Crimson
Sandy, Utah

Another BYU/ESPN article huh? It sounds to me like Cougar fans don't have much to look forward to these days.

1) They already lost their first game in week 1 to Virginia (which ended their season).

2) They lost to their big brother for the 4th straight year.

3) It doesn't matter what they do the rest of the season. They'll wind up in the same mediocre bowl game they have contracts with.

All BYU fans and sports writers can talk about is BYU's ESPN deal. That's all the cougies have!


The problem I have with ESPNU is that it has the worst announcers and the worst technical package on ESPN. (Fewer cameras, longer shots.)

Scott Farcus
Beaver, UT

Great article, it cleared a o lot of issues up about the byU split from the MWC, I always thought it was because of Todd Christesen's commentating.

Go Utes!
Springville, UT

I am not sure why you would bash the PAC 12's distribution, their deal is amazing they get more national coverage than any other conference with three networks carrying their programing. I wish DirectTV would get off their high horse and agree to the deal like everybody else but all the same 70 million homes is nothing to sneeze at.

Bottom line both schools have great national coverage. end of story.

Cottonwood Heights, UT

Amazing how the ESPN deal and the desire for teams to be on ESPN, gets BYU two for one deals. That is not a great deal. The only ones who really want to be on ESPN, are the Idaho States of the world. Other BCS teams still get 2:1's. That's the power of being in a BCS conference.

I think our Big12 chances have set sail, never to return due to some TV rights that BYU was not willing to negotiate on.

Cheyenne, WY

stanford series 2:2 USC 1:1 those are not 2:1 s sorry

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