Published: Tuesday, Oct. 15 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT
Two things Ms Parker.Brand New websites that get bombarded often
"crash". Even with the tech giants.Maybe the ACA will be a train
wreck. Maybe not. But initial website crashes are not indicative.Ms Parker writes"rather than popping open the champagne as the
Obamacare website crashes in a glut of glitches"The ACA is law.
If it turns out bad, it will get canned or fixed. But, why not hope for the
best rather than advocate a celebration of failure?Do you want the
ACA to fail so we can return to a failing system. Brilliant.That is
the problem in todays hyper partisan environment. R and D want each other to
fail. They want the others ideas to fail.At times, that means
rooting against America.And it happens quite often.How
about we wish for GREAT ideas from either party that would be good for America?
I'm convinced the House GOP are working in conspiracy with Obama --
distract the public on the bumpy implementation of ObamaCare with a silly
government shutdown. People are enraged about the loss of
government services during the shutdown (e.g., loss of National Parks access,
loss of federal gun permits during hunting season, etc.), and then Americans
come to respect what government (the collective will of the people) does for
society.ObamaCare implementation gets ironed out, people get their
healthcare and come to like ObamaCare, and the House switches to a Democrat
majority in 2014. In this turn of events, the GOP finally rid
themselves of the TEA Party and then take credit that ObamaCare was really based
on the successful RomneyCare in Massachusetts all along -- a GOP concept to
begin with and leverage its success for 2016! Go Romney in
I have said all along that the best thing that the republicans should have done
to hurt the Democratic Party would have been to give them everything they wanted
and watch the whole house come down. But, since anybody with a little common
sense and a heck of a lot less gullibility should know, that there is no
difference between the parties, the republican brand is still alive and
we'll, right next to their buddy, the democrats. Both will live to fight
another day, over nothing! thank you Senator Lee!
Joe Blow,It's not a matter of wanting it to fail. Rather the
issue is knowing that it is unsustainable under our current economy. We simply
can't afford it. So to compensate, most of us have to accept poorer
quality insurance for much more expensive rates. It has already hit me and my
family as my company provided insurance was changed last year to accommodate.Ms. Parker,The Ted Cruz comparison to Osama Bin Laden is
shameful. That is very poor biased writing and is not news reporting at all.
The Tea Party is not on the edge of extinction and neither is the GOP. The only
thing that is changing is there will be more and more independents, like myself,
who are going to enter the picture.
The only people who can defend Obamacare either already have a highly prized
Obamacare waiver or a nice fat taxpayer subsidy. The rest of us must suffer.
Still have a full time job? Checked your insurance deductibles and co-pays
The extremists have no conscience.
Interesting, I see most of the media attacking the Republicans. But America
dislikes both parties right now. A senior White House official told the Wall
Street Journal that the administration doesn't really care when the
shutdown ends because they're "winning" the PR fight against the
GOP. According to the WSJ, Obama has only a 37 approval rating. Forbes Zogby
poll says Obama has a 55% disapproval rating, Democrats have a 24% approval
rating. Gallop's poll shows Obama's approval rating at 43%. Plenty of
blame to go around. I wish both sides had passed the bill, after
reading it, and knew what was in it, before it went into effect. Giving business
a pass for a year, shows something is not right, let's hope they fix it. As
far as the site goes, it's incompetence. They should of been prepared for
the rush, or fixed it in a day or two. A competent business would of found a
way. It just makes me question things more.
Mountanman said: "The only people who can defend Obamacare either already
have a highly prized Obamacare waiver or a nice fat taxpayer subsidy." I
have neither, so that's False "The rest of us must
suffer." who are you speaking for, Not me. Perhaps folks at Hayden Lake,
but that's not because of the ACA...is it?Still have a full
time job? Why yes I do. In fact I don't know anyone personally who has lost
one due to the ACA. Perhaps you know more unscrupulous employers than
myself."Checked your insurance deductibles and co-pays
lately?"Sure have, one of the smallest increases ever, thanks for
Ms. Parker is absolutely right on the destructiveness of the tea party
contingent. The tea party members completely fail to recognize that the ACA is
already a huge compromise with conservatives. Many on the left
(myself included) were in favor of an expansion of Medicare (which works quite
well for the elderly, allows for the purchase of supplemental insurance to go
beyond the minimum coverage provided by law, and has an incredibly low overhead
cost - something like 2%). This is the "single payer" option, that was
ruled out from the start because of the influence of the insurance companies.
(As always, money talks - loudly).Then the government option, in
which the government would offer a competing health insurance plan, was taken
off the table as well.What was passed has NO government coverage.
All coverage is through private insurance companies, with subsidies for the
poor. Yet this is derided as socialism. If socialism means that even the poor
have sufficient insurance so they can have medical care (outside of the
incredibly expensive emergency room), then count me in as a socialist. Of
course, all those tea party members on social security and medicare are
@MountanmanThe only people who can defend Obamacare either already have a
highly prized Obamacare waiver or a nice fat taxpayer subsidy. The rest of us
must suffer. Still have a full time job? Checked your insurance deductibles and
co-pays lately?========================I possess neither, and
while it isn't perfect I still support it. Why? Because it is a step in
the right direction.Stereotyping and labeling people because they
disagree with you add nothing constructive to the conversation on how to improve
things, but only adds to the climate of tension and hostility that we are now
in. It's not part of the problem, it is the problem.To get a
waiver is simple, get your State to cover more people for less. It's
already provided for in the current law.
As we all know, no plan is the best plan.Millions without insurance, more
than twice the healthcare costs of the next most expensive nation. These are the
best things to happen to America! Go republicans! Keep fighting for the status
Yes, way to go republicans. Now, if only you'd have gone about it in a
constructive manner instead of being so obstructionist.
@The Solution;Tell me, do you actually have a solution? The system
we were operating under was completely unsustainable with insurance premiums
rising in the double digits every year.What is your
"solution", Mr. Solution? Please, at least offer up something to
@The Solution"It's not a matter of wanting it to fail. Rather the
issue is knowing that it is unsustainable under our current economy."I can understand that. I mean, I disagree completely with the
assessment, but I understand why someone who thinks that way would want to
repeal it. What I don't understand is why someone who feels that way would
want to defund it because defunding it doesn't keep it from being law but
does do thinks like prevents the spending on the subsidies used to help people
by insurance, thus making it much more painful for the lower/middle class.
@VickieBDemocrats' approval rating in the Gallup poll is at 43%.
It's Republicans that's at 29% in the Gallup poll and the 24% was
Republicans in an NBC/WSJ poll.
The Solution:You're right. It is shameful to compare Cruz to
bin Laden. Cruz will ultimately inflict far more damage on America than bin
Laden ever dreamed of.
I can only hope that this little episode of extortion and brinkmanship will
finally deep-six the teaocracy. But irrational, myopic movements like this tend
to appeal to a fringe in society that is very stubborn when it comes to changing
its views. It may take an actual split in the GOP before the tea party dies. I
would prefer that someone form a new moderate party. Statistics show that the
majority of Americans (well over 50 percent) find themselves in the middle on
most significant issues. It's time we pushed the extremists on both ends
out of the boat and let them tread water for a while.
Are there any real men in this audience? The hidden whining that is ever
present with those who think that the government is the equivalent of Grampa
need to grow up. When are you ever going to accept some personal
responsibility? Grampa is only going to live so long and he is not an extension
of the money tree that Democrats and Republicans think exist in perpetuity.
Europe has tried the 'grampa' model of government hand outs.
It's not working! Unfortunately, those who like to take advantage of
grampa will wring every last cent out of him because they are
'entitled' to it. Health care is just the latest example of the
entitlement crowd wanting more from 'grampa'.
Thank you Mike Lee and Ted Cruz. I would much rather be in a foxhole with them
than Harry Reid and BO. At least Mike and Ted would want me to keep my first
and second amendment rights. Harry Reid and BO would want me to give them up
with a patronizing nod that those rights weren't necessary with them
around! Just imagine it. A world without weapons, possessions, etc. I guess it
all comes down to who you trust, or does it? I think I'll take my chances,
retain my rights and do the same for others. whether Mike Lee, Ted Cruz, Harry
Reid, or Barack Obama, I'll do without any of them 'helping' me
thanks. I guess that's the difference between me and all of them who pick
sides here. That makes me the most unique of all and one of the few
'independent' minded people here. Come join the ranks. It's
liberating to say the least.
@The SolutionI can't agree enough, with your well deserved
condemnation, of the author, of this piece.Raphael Cruz is many
unsavory things and deserves our condemnation...but to compare him to one of the
Hall of Shame's lowest pieces of work...is beyond the pale.
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