Comments about ‘Sen. Mike Lee won't talk about polls showing Utahns don't support his fight against Obamacare’

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Published: Thursday, Oct. 10 2013 5:25 p.m. MDT

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Eden, UT

Mike Lee is following a path that will give Obama a Democratic House of Representatives. Remember there is a Midterm Election. The Nation doesn't support closing the Government and the Country doesn't support blocking the debt ceiling. The Senator's position on these two problems is going to create a Democratic House of Representatives. With Obama in the Whitehouse, a Democratic Senate, with a newly created Democratic House of Representatives, what will happen to President Obama's agenda? WIll gun control legislation get passed? You know the answer. All I can say is, Mike Lee's silly positions have facilitated an Obama agenda. This short sighted politics is the product of an inexperienced Senator.

jim l
West Jordan, UT

Im on mikes side. The polls are flawed.

Bored to the point of THIS!
Ogden, UT

I absolutely disagree with Senator Lee. I think he's wreckless with our Country's well being. His ego drives his motives. I email him every day and remind him that he represents me too. Although I'm a 'minority' when it comes to Utah politics, I do live here and deserve to be heard. I understand that I'm usuall going to loose when it comes to Senator Lee, but it seems as though I'm in the majority on this issue, and I find myself loosing again?

Senator Lee, You should be concerned with these polls. Why, because we're your constituents. You represent us, not your ego.

The Woodlands, TX

And as far as the "likes" of Obamacare, I can understand the support from people who have pre-existing conditions and could not get insurance - but the fact is that when an "insurance" plan cannot set restrictions to create a pool of people with like risks, it ceases to become insurance and becomes a federally funded entitlement pool. Calling it "insurance" is just a way to ignore that it is forced collectivism. If you support that, fine - but realize that you aren't supporting insurance or healthcare, you are asking taxpayers and other rate payers to pay for your healthcare. If this was the sole objective of Obamacare, there is a much less burdensome way to fund and administer it than disrupting the entire economy for a very small percentage of Americans. Look at it honestly, it isn't about "I've got mine, who cares about you", it is about "You have yours, now I want some of it."

Draper, UT

Lee's arrogance obviously has been adopted by his staff. Lee's unwillingness to discuss his constituents' views is ample evidence that he supports only his own agenda, the rest of us be hanged!

Durham, NC

"Just to remind you, Senator Lee won his election also, here in Utah, after ousting the liberal Bob Bennett."

Ummm, if Utah actually had a real primary, then perhaps he would have - but.....no. The public in Utah never had the chance to choose between the two.

You have to love those that if the poll doesn't confirm your opinion.... that the poll must be biased and wrong. How inwardly focused we have become to believe that our own views are the only possible views others might have. It just blows me away how much denial people can be in.

These same people claiming the polls are wrong are also the same ones who guaranteed us a Romney win. We saw how that turned out.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

The poll will not effect anyone who supported the tea party tantrum. They will just spin a new conspiracy theory. That is easier that getting actual votes.

Salt Lake, UT

Mike Lee is doing what he said he would do, and that is upholding the constitution. Anybody who thinks that the ACA is constitutional does not understand the constitution. The ACA was written in the legislative branch as it should, but then was changed by the judicial branch and then changed hundreds of times by the executive branch. It is only the power of the Legislative branch to write laws. I commend Mike Lee for refusing to fund an unconstitutional bill. For everyone else, you can argue that you do not care for the constitution, or that you don't care if Mike Lee is in the defense of it.

sandy, UT

This is not a question about the quality or the probity of the "polls". It is about Mike Lee refusing to answer questions from his constituents. The major fear the Republicans have over Obamacare is that IT MAY WORK. And that is what they don't want to happen. They foresee a Democrat Party domination in 10/15 years just like the domination of the Democrats following the New Deal, Social Security and Medicare. Couple that with the emerging Latino population the voter ranks don't look good for the Republicans down the road.The Republicans never have capitalized on Lincoln being a "Republican" because both parties pivoted on National Issues and the Democrats seized the high ground on social issues. Over 50 % of our present children 1-5 years of age are from minority families. Wait 15 years until they grow up and vote.You sleep in the bed you make!!

Clearfield, UT

If the public is so opposed to the ACA then why did Romney lose?

Layton, UT

"100 to 1" in favor of the senator's effort? The official, professional polls may not be totally accurate, but they're probably a little more reliable than the statement "100-to-1 in favor." Let's get real here. Lee now says he never intended to shut the government down....but in his July speech to CPAC, he said he was WILLING to shut it down over the issue. We need to hold his feet to the fire, here, and not allow him to walk his words back.

Huntsville, u

Don't believe everything you read in the polls. A lot depends on who you poll and how the questions are worded. I am a 70 year old Independent and have never ever been polled I live in a rural area. I've been called to jury duty a few times, but never polled. Go figure.

If you poll people in the big cities, you are going to get a leftist view and if you poll people in the country or rural areas, you are going to get a rightist view. Polls can also be made to work in your favor simply by how you ask the questions.

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

If you don't like the results, it must be the poll.

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

@ute fan 11

" Anybody who thinks that the ACA is constitutional does not understand the constitution."

So you're telling us all that you know more than Chief Justice Roberts?

His credentials are pretty strong, and he is definitely a conservative, appointed by a Republican president.

What exactly are your credentials?

The Woodlands, TX

@CHS85 - SCOTUS is not infallible. Only part of the law was upheld and it was done so because Roberts construed the mandate as a tax - in direct opposition to what the administration was arguing. If it is a tax, then the ACA violated the origination clause of the Constitution because it originated in the Senate, not the House. This aspect is not over yet, it will be brought back to the Supreme Court, it is not "settled law".

The Woodlands, TX

The ACA has such broad support that it was passed without a single Republican vote and pushed through Congress on a process never used before for a bill like this. It was also passed in the Senate by one vote supplied by either an ex-comedian who "won" a state-wide fraudulent election by a little over 300 votes in a recount where the Republican originally led by around 200 or a Massachusetts appointed Senator who was only able to be appointed due to that state's government specifically changing the rules that they had put in place specifically to keep Mitt Romney from making appointments during his term. That Senator voted for Obamacare in December after losing the election to Scott Brown in the prior November. That is not the pedigree of a popular law.

Springville, UT

Lee can dish it out, but he can't take it. Unbelievable. What a weak "leader."

And for you folks who say you weren't called, or that KSL and BYU are liberal, get a reality check. You are in fantasy land. Utahns are a pragmatic lot, and many of us are tired of the bullys from the far right. Being conservative does not mean being doctrinaire and ideological. Most of us have our feet firmly planted on the ground, and our patience is running out with the right wing extremist.

clearfield, UT

Lee has nothing to worry about. He should continue to do the right thing as he sees it. To those of you who say he should do what the people want, so should Obama. And Obamacare is not what the majority of the people want. As for his re-election, you really believe a Democrat will be elected to the Senate in Utah? His only problem would be a primary fight. Bennett again anyone?

m.g. scott
clearfield, UT

Neil T

Romney lost due to a number of factors, the major one being he did not even get out the Republican vote that McCain did in 2008, if you can believe that. Had he, he might well have won the Presidency, as Obama got several million less votes in '12 than he did in 08. I still wonder if a good portion of the non Romney vote came from the evangelical Christian community that just couldn't bring themselves to vote for a dreaded Mormon. Who knows. Anyway, it's over and Obama is now at 37% approval. Better him screwing up the country than a Republican.

CHS 85
Sandy, UT


"SCOTUS is not infallible."

You're right. They upheld Citizens United.

I guess you disagree with them also on cases like Brown vs. Board of Education, Plessy vs. Ferguson, Mapp vs. Ohio, US Gov't vs. Nixon.

Just because you don't like the SCOTUS ruling, doesn't mean it is wrong. It is only wrong in YOUR eyes.

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