Comments about ‘Sen. Mike Lee won't talk about polls showing Utahns don't support his fight against Obamacare’

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Published: Thursday, Oct. 10 2013 5:25 p.m. MDT

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Star Bright
Salt Lake City, Ut

I agree with him! No one called me!

peter
Alpine, UT

Good job Sen. Lee. Would that we could permanently shut down every dept in the Fed Government except the dept of defense. The individual States can stand on their own. We don't need the Feds to dictate how to run the states or our lives.

dansimp
Layton, UT

Good for you Star Bright, most of us don't. Thats what a poll does, notice it didn't say everyone disagreed with Sen. Lee. And Peter, I can appreciate that you would like to go back to the articles of confederation, but most of us know that a Federal Government is important. You have some great people that agree with you, people like Patrick Henry, who hated the idea of the Constitution, and refused to be a part of it and fought for it not to become the law of the land, but, and here's the important part, he lost that fight. Maybe even more importantly, if you really think that each State could in fact stand on its own, you are truly, and sadly mistaken.

Dilly
Cedar City, UT

I have made my living from tourism to Southern Utah's National Parks. It hurts a little (financially) to have the federal government prohibit access to these amazingly beautiful lands. It's another display of the fed's arrogant attitude that only they know what's best for us. Thank you, Senator Lee, for being principled in your fight to bring government back to the people.

DanO
Mission Viejo, CA

I've been noticing a theme. Every time my Republican Congressman posts more about how they "won't back down" 90% of the comments are his constituents begging him to stop the games and to pass a clean CR. They're ignored and often deleted. If they're not listening to their constituents, who are they listening to?

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

I 100% support everything Mike Lee did. I would also like to know who conducted these polls and what counties the majority of those who responded came from. My guess is most of the polling was done in Salt Lake and not Utah county....former Rocky Anderson country.

MGB
Saint George, UT

Those Utahns that disagree with Senator Lee are the ones that do not understand the Constitutional separation of powers and the power the founding fathers gave the House of Representatives relative to the purse strings of the federal government. Read Federalist Papers #9 by Alexander Hamilton. Sen. Lee is right on target and needs to stand his ground. Just because a bunch of uninformed Utahas do not agree with him does not make them right.

sammyg
Springville, UT

No one called me either. I can find 200 people in 20 minutes that support him just in my neighborhood.

These polls are a joke and do not come close to the pulse of what's really happening.

BYR
West Bountiful, UT

The point of the article is Mr. Lee will not talk about the polls. He should but he won't, to his shame.

DanO
Mission Viejo, CA

To those criticizing the polls, do you really think KSL and BYU polls are going to tilt left? Really?
And yes, the House passes the budget, but it's also passed by the Senate and then signed by the President, but that's not what's at issue here. This is about paying the debts that have already been appropriated. This is the House making good on paying the bills for what they themselves already passed.

MGB
Saint George, UT

The unfortunate thing about public opinion in this case is that it is totally uninformed. It is Harry Reid and Obama who shut down the government by not accepting the funding bill passed by the House which it is their constitutional duty to do. All bills dealing with funding originate in the House. It does not matter what the law is the House has the right to not fund it if they choose. It is time now for Obama and Reid to compromise. I want Lee and others to have courage not compromise. You do not compromise with evil.

travelrus
murray, UT

I had a conversation yesterday with a very conservative Republican who said she will not vote for Mike Lee again. She likes Obamacare, it turns out she has a 2 year old grand daughter with a health issue and her family could not get her insured. Now they can get insurance for their daughter for the first time. I've noticed with some Republicans that if it's good for them it must be ok. Forget about what would be best for those in need. You know the old I've got mine you're on your on mentality.
I just hope the majority of Utahans remember when Lee is up for reelection what a mess he and his cohorts have made of our country.

JMT
Springville, UT

Oh my...and the dance of the weaklings has gotten us to the point of economic peril. The dance of the strong will save us.

This is the process as it should be. Tough, hard-as-nails negotiations.

What has taken place for the past decade is simple. The Dems throw a fit, the media blames the GOP and the GOP caves with sweat on their brow saying the just barely avoided getting beat up worse. Sheesh!

That is NOT how you negotiate. The GOP has not been at the table for a decade. Now, they are because of the actions of naive, freshman Senators Lee and Cruz. Both too inexperienced to know that when the Dems and media call you names you MUST cave!!

We the People are about to get a fresh air of fiscal sanity. We will pay our debt, and we will put some limits on debt growth (translation, Sequestration II) and overtime America will be in a better financial position.

And when this happens we need to thank the two naive freshman who didn't know the rules, broke them and forced the Dem President, Senate and Media to the negotiating table.

Not too bad!

Critterman
Santa Clara, UT

As a life-long Republican and Vietnam era veteran, I have had all of the negative posturing from Sen. Lee that I can stand. I have worked for 40 years with all levels of government and always found a way to come up with a solution to the difficult conflicts that we frequently face throughout our nation. It takes a broader view and a more enlightened attitude than that which the Senator seems to possess. I expect some collaboration and some give and take in the legislative process. Interestingly, our only Democratic representative, Jim Matheson, seems to be working sincerely in that direction. Sen. Lee won't get my vote the next election. Based on remarks from my southern Utah associates (80% Republican), most of them won't either!

bandersen
Saint George, UT

thank you senator Lee. the fact that he has stirred up so much animosity is a great sign that he is doing what is right, rather than being a part of the uniparty, the democratic and republican parties. How naive people are to think that either of these parties represents the best of America. what an absolute joke!

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

The House and Senate were at an impasse on the night of Sept. 30. The House's then-most-recent ploy for extracting Obamacare concessions from Senate Democrats and the White House -- by eliminating health insurance subsidies for Congress members and their staffs -- had been rejected by the Senate. The 'clean' Senate spending bill was back in the House's court.

With less than two hours to midnight and shutdown, Speaker John Boehner's latest plan emerged. House Republicans would "insist" on their latest spending bill, including the anti-Obamacare provision, and request a conference with the Senate to resolve the two chambers' differences.

Under normal House rules once that bill had been rejected again by the Senate, then any member of the House could have made a motion to vote on the Senate's bill. Such a motion would have been what is called "privileged" and entitled to a vote of the full
House.

But the House Rules Committee voted the night of Sept. 30 to change that rule for this specific bill. They added language dictating that any motion "may be offered only by the majority Leader or his designee."

DN Subscriber 2
SLC, UT

Senator Lee is a hero, standing up for the Constitution and Utah taxpayers. The Republicans in the House has passed numerous bills to find the government and end the shutdown, but Democrats Reid and Obama refuse to pass them unless they get 100% of their demands.

As for apocryphal stories about Utah Republicans who could not get insurance suddenly being saved by Obamacare, I am not buying that.

Polls are little more than a self fulfilling prophecy by the news media to validate if their propaganda has been effective with the low information voters. Sadly, it has worked. But that does not make it true, or good for the country.

Spellman789
Syracuse, UT

No thank you Senator Lee, doing more harm than good.

DRay
Roy, UT

Mike Lee did not shut down the Government, Harry Reid and Pres. Obama did...why oh why don't people get that? Even the Des News writers seem to be lost on this...in the poll, was it made clear that Mike Lee wanted to fund all the Government, except Obamacare? Of course those who will see some benefit from it want it, but they don't care that it means everyone else has to bear their burden, financially, and many others will suffer hardships because of this. It is the unwillingness to stand on principle by those seeking,always seeding Government assistance that got us into this mess, voting for a welfare state, to the detriment of all in the long haul.

U-tar
Woodland Hills, UT

The pollsters didn't call me either, and to DanO, I hate to be the first one to break it to you, KSL is liberal and so are a lot of folks at BYU. You see it is like cancer, it spreads. The Doug Left show does it every day. Way to go senator Lee!

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