Comments about ‘Boy Scouts remove 'God' from oath in UK, welcome atheists to the ranks’

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Published: Wednesday, Oct. 9 2013 6:10 p.m. MDT

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Uncle Rico
Sandy, UT

One more reason why I did not donate to friends of scouting this year.

Red
San Antonia, TX

You've gotta stand for Something or your going to fall for anything!

Sorry to see you fall Boy Scouts of UK.

Jim
Mesa, Az

Appeasement.......Isn't that how WW2 started? I dare say old chap that Lord BP would rolling in his grave

Gandalf
Salt Lake City, UT

Red, here are three things worth standing for that you're missing:

•some boys are not raised in conventional faith traditions but, like all other young men, need the support and camaraderie that the boy scouts offer

•regardless of whether a boy believes in Him or not, God loves all His sons and wants them to associate with other people and groups that have positive values that are calculated to bring the boy closer to his Father

•organizations need to evolve with changing times and adapt to changing circumstances in order to thrive

I'm thrilled that the Boy Scouts of UK recognizes the value of, and need for, Scout values and experiences in the lives of all young men. Both that organization and the boys in the UK will benefit from this change.

Rocket Science
Brigham City, UT

There is nothing more central, more basic, more important to the Boy Scout movement than Duty to God. It is why Lord Baden Powell began the movement. With out God, the very foundation of Scouting crumbles. A sad day for a wonderful movement that has influenced millions for good.

ca2000
West Wendover, NV

If this is the direction they are going to be taking, then I will no longer be making donations to them.

Tyler D
Meridian, ID

This is awful!

Saying “God” in the oath is the foundation for all the morals these scouts will learn. Without saying “God” all their efforts will be meaningless, their merit badges will be shallow symbols of moral decay, and they will inevitably fall into selfishness, decadence and debauchery… um… not.

Brave heart
Springville , UT

This is a laudable step in the progress and growth of Boy Scouts. Finally the people in charge are using logic and reason, not just in the administration of the scouting program, but in the core values and beliefs as well. There is no price for teaching kids to have beliefs based on facts and evidence.

Aggielove
Cache county, USA

Welcome to the world of PC.

The Scientist
Provo, UT

How sad that so many are so intolerant and hateful of those who do not believe in the fairy tales of religion.

ParkCityAggie
Park City, Ut

I don't know why this would ever be some sort of controversy, you can always worship "God" in... oh say a Church or in the privacy of your own home. If the Boy Scouts are so hung up on religion why not call them the Christian Solders or God Scouts? There are plenty of places to worship God.

gittalopctbi
Glendale, AZ

@Gandalf

You are correct with your points 1 & 2. Not with 3. True, some organizations may need to evolve. But when faith-based organizations evolve by changing their core tenets--actually, ANY organization that does so--is no longer the organization that it was. The Boy Scouts was formed on principles that should never change, the principles based on faith in God. That's why the LDS church embraces the BSA and has done so for 100 years. If there are those who want all you say in your post, let them start their own organization. @Red did not miss a thing.

Pilot70
Orem, UT

Unbelievable. Literally. In the rush to be all-inclusive, the British Scouts have EXCLUDED the Creator ... the one being who loves us all, put us here, and includes each of us in His family. That isn't inclusive at all.

Sure, there ought to be an organization where EVERYONE is accepted regardless of belief, and taught values and morals. That organization ought to be SCHOOL. Certainly, atheists and others who wish to ignore God were always free to organize a program to their liking. Nothing would be lost in doing so. (Scouts are divided into troops as it is.) It is not divisive or destructive to have youth programs for those who do not want God in them. The British chose instead to obliterate the core faith of an entire organization so it would reflect atheist non-belief over devotion to God. Now those who wish to have God deeply involved in a scouting program have nowhere to go ... or must start from scratch to rebuild all they have accomplished. Shameful.

Having a youth group that acknowledges God and exercises faith in Him IS NOT intolerant. Demanding the removal of expressions of faith to make some feel better IS intolerant.

jskains
Orem, UT

First, remember this isn't the BSA. It's the UK equivalent. Second, these were founded as religious groups and are cow tailing to the aggressive anti-religious movement bent on taking over and deleting God from everything. I see this as intolerance yet again from atheists. It says "I've decided to join your program, but you now have to delete your beliefs to make room for me". If religion is a fairy tale, why do atheists care? Do they cry when their kids join say the Harry Potter fan club and the material you sign mentions magic and Hogwarts?

Beverly
Eden, UT

Take a deep breath. It is just a matter of time before God is deleted from scouting in America. All religions are giving way to the facts found is science. The logic is science trumps myth.

Eliyahu
Pleasant Grove, UT

What difference does it make if the oath mentions God or not? Scouting isn't a church, it doesn't focus on teaching about God or any particular religion, and that's not its purpose for being.

Smiley
West Valley City, UT

I agree with what Red said. You couldn't have said it better Red.

Red
San Antonia, TX
You've gotta stand for Something or your going to fall for anything!

Sorry to see you fall Boy Scouts of UK.

paintandestroy
Richmond/Cache, UT

All that's left is to eliminate "Boy" so no one feels left out

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: "How sad that so many are so intolerant and hateful of those who do not believe in the fairy tales of religion."

And, of course, there's no ironic hint of intolerance or hatred evident in such a comment?

What's actually sad is how liberals/atheists have contorted the American political landscape and embedded in our language and culture their loathsome, newspeak definitions of "hate" and "tolerance."

It's to the point now, that it's becoming accepted, certainly politically correct, to hate and refuse to tolerate religion, religious people, and religious beliefs.

And it's all being done in the name of this new liberal definition of "tolerance."

tenx
Santa Clara, UT

If atheists would build a hall to meet in and socialize, they would have something to do besides sit around and bash religion. Enough!!!

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