It seems they are going for massive presence here. Taller than previous designs.
Not unlike the one in Newark.And there are rumors about the one in
downtown Chicago being tall and massive-looking. (Tall because of 4 floors of
parking deck.)Is this a new approach to church architecture?
Looks like any other newer chapel. The courtyard seems very small.
Did someone take these pictures with an IPhone? Poor quality. DNews continues
to outdo itself in "quality" reporting. Generally underwhelmed with the
courtyard. Its different, but is it really going to be a community gathering
center anymore than a Stake Center with a large field and a bowery? Probably
Why do LDS churches continue to have basketball courts? Cultural Hall, yes, I
can see that. But why basketball courts?
Hmmmmmm....Did I miss something in this article??Seems
like the article ended before they really explained what makes this meetinghouse
"unique" (other than the new courtyard feature).But even
then there was NO explanation offered in the article as to WHY the church added
a courtyard, or if this is the new trend, going forward, in all LDS building
designs.The article just left me thinking,
"Therefore.........(what?)"??A lot more details would help
May I comment on the comments? Why bother commenting if you have nothing
pertinent to say. Just picky, picky, picky
Variety is the spice of life!I wish we could just get decent
lighting in our dimly lit (and depressing) Stk Center chapel!
this doesn't pass for news, even in the Deseret News. Now if it had solar
panels and multi media white boards, then there would be something unique about
Interesting. There are at least 5 LDS church buildings in my are that have
courtyards. They tend to be older buildings. I think they were built back in the
60's and 70's. They happen to be my favorite buildings because they
are so different from the newer chapels.
I saw a while back that the church was going green in some of its meeting houses
to cut back on energy costs and cut back on toxic chemicals used in
construction. The Church Library was LEED Silver... and I know Temple
Square's Christmas displays are all LEDs now. This was all part of the
Church's commitment to spend tithe dollars more responsibly and to enhance
the health of church members.
My ward meetinghouse in Southern California, which was built in the 1960s, has a
The windowless 'bunker wall' is always a feature in these facilities.
Beautiful building, at least from what I can tell from the poor quality
pictures. But, not sure what is unique here. Many chapels in the
'70's were built with 3-sided courtyards. Never really have seem much
use of these courtyards. But I also remember while on my mission in the
'70's, seeing a number of older buildings in the L.A. valley, that had
courtyards, most of them much larger and nicely landscaped. The one in
particular that actually did get significant usage, was a Spanish architectural
style. The center courtyard served as a main gathering and visiting area, as
passing through the courtyard was necessary to get from one part of the building
to another. No inside hallways. Yes, I know. This would not work
This meeting house plan is old school. They designed them like this back in the
When I was in a Masters program once, I gave a class paper comparing the Mormon
Exodus to that of Israel with Moses, something I'm sure many LDS have
already done in one way or another. The conversation after got around to modern
LDS and how we're perceived. My professor for this class said he felt we
were a closed group or fraternity, and that getting in was hard. I wondered if
that was a vestige of our pioneer siege mentality when we had to escape from the
world and were glad to be rid of outsiders If our chapels can do more to be
open to our neighbors, be more welcoming and inclusive, demonstrating our
uniqueness and doctrine, lets' do it. I wonder how our new chapel visitor
program is going on the week days and what we can do to get more people to
venture in so they might return on Sundays. Our simplicity of decor and lack of
cross and stained glass needs explanation, but still confirm our Christianity.
Who decides what pictures to in the foyer? Any thoughts out there?
Our wedding reception was held in the courtyard in my old ward in San Jose, CA.
So, unique this new building, it is not. My husband's old ward building
has a courtyard, too. Is there something else to make this a unique building
that the reporter forgot to add to the article? Oh, maybe the reporter forgot
to edit the article enough since it said that the building was unique but not
alone. Redundant description.
I liked this unique meetinghouse design just as well when it was done on
Saratoga Springs last March. It's "unique" because the chapel/gym
is side-by-side with classrooms, with the courtyard separating the two, rater
than the typical modern rectangle design. So it's Unique among new
buildings. The courtyard is small, but functional. The building is
"green" with automatic lights & faucets. My favorite part is the 11
"Green Vehicle Only" parking spaces filled weekly with SUVs, vans, and
sports cars. Keep sticking it to the "Green" man people.
What we really need with this article is a floor plan diagram and maybe even an
aerial shot. ps. I lived in 2 different Hawaiian islands growing up (1970s-80s,
and both had courtyards, although the bldg in Hilo had so much termite damage it
was torn down and a new courtyardless bldg replaced it.
Nice to see that the church still has no clue about long term management of the
facilities. What are they going to do with the snow in winter time? The snow
will build up creating drifts, even in this small space and create leaks in the
walls. Court yards are a nice feature in the sun belt but, really in the
Mountain West? It is only truly functional 3-4 months a year, will be a huge
depository of leaves, dust, snow, and ice. The Church building department has
no clue. An additional example, the church built a large number of
chapels down in the Phoenix area in the 90's through early 2000's.
They built the chapels based on Utah attendance numbers. With very few
exceptions, the church was required to renovate brand new buildings within 2-3
years of dedication to accommodate the actual AZ attendance numbers.I am also confident that all of the LEED buildings will require huge capital
infusion once, they figure out that some of the cool "Green" technology
isn't cost effective, durable, or functional.
The first meetinghouse I went to (the Monrovia East Ward) after baptism (1969)
was on Lemon Street in Monrovia, California. It had an open courtyard. I have
always thought it was a nice touch. I have never seen one since. I didn't
know there were any others.
We had an open courtyard in the building where I first attended church in
Woodland Hills, California. It was built in the early 60s--back when the ward
had some influence on how the building would be designed, not dictated by
corporate architects in SLC. It had beautiful artwork too, as there were
talented artists in the ward when it was built. I hope those paintings are still
there and have not been replaced by our Generic Church Art (can you tell my
degree was in Fine Art?!).
The old chapel(now torn down)on Berkeley Avenue in Turlock, CA had a courtyard.
Lots of fond memories of that building. You know, picking the locks to get in
to play basketball, Halloween carnivals in the courtyard, etc. When you're
young it seems your life revolved around the church buildings you grew up
attending. Hope the youth there enjoy their new courtyard too.
In the phoenix/Mesa all the meeting houses from the 40's - the 60's
had court yards. It was a step up from the design where the chapel and cultural
hall were not connected, often in separate buildings. All of the original
courtyard buildings I knew were filled in with classrooms.
The picture shows a beautiful chapel with a front area. Is this front area the
court yard? I can't see this space functioning for wedding receptions or
even ward parties. I looked at the picture of the chapel, and expected to see
more pictures that showed something in the back, like picnic tables covered with
a pavilion, or something like that. What would neighbors use this courtyard for?
The article said other people could use the court yard. That front area just
doesn't say "court yard" to me, if that is what that is. Are some
Woops! I just saw the pictures of the courtyard. I think it is grand!
All I have to say is Woooooo for the DB 6th. Bishop MM.. You my
friend are famous.
Why don't they build buildings with courtyards down here where we could use
them 9 months out of the year, instead of being filled with snow for 6
months....I know we could use one. Our current building is old and
tiny, bursting at the seams with 4 units using it.
Wow! Thanks for the accompanying photo because now I can see what you mean by
"unique". I mean--a courtyard? Off the hook and cutting edge to say the
least! Is this a meeting house or some wonderful, new age glimpse of the meeting
houses of tomorrow land!? Cudos to the designers for showing us all that
"same old same old" is too often "lame old lame old".
All new buildings should be solar powered. Plenty of roof space.Members attending the branch should bear the burden of the cost of the
building. Just like they did in the 60's and 70's. It gives a much
greater appreciation for the building.Basketball courts are a giant
waste of money, time and emotion. Cultural hall, of course, basketball, so
If this 'new building' is anything like the one they just finished
building in Mountain Grove, here in Missouri, then they are wonderful buildings.
I did not see all the tech. stuff but the inside did have a few things that
haven't been in buildings before, the court yard, a handy cap ramp up one
side of the inside of the chapel (it is about time we made it possible for
people in wheel chairs to go up to speak or bare their testimonies). Larger
chapel and wider isles. I was surprised to know that only one ward was, at that
time, occupying this large chapel. But then I thought..."DUH, the Lord knows
that there will be a need for this large of a building. IF the Lord builds it
they will come. I also noted that the cultural hall had huge double doors that
led right out into the court yard. What a lovely building.
J-TX, You're right, Allen TX does need a new building on the east side of
town. I attended that building in the 1990's when we had 5 wards and
shortened schedules while the McKinney Stake Center was being built. The Allen
Stake center built in 2004-2005 was a welcome relief.
What I want to know from ANY of our churches' designers is: WHY DO THE
DOORS ON ALL THE RELIEF SOCIETY ROOMS HAVE TO CLOSE WITH SUCH A LOUD BANG????
Several people leave or enter our room during every SS and RS meeting and
it's always with a loud BANG that calls attention to their entrances and
exits every time. Now THAT's an important item to bring up to the church
llacey2001Only one ward bishop was quoted in the article, but 3 wards will
be meeting in this building. These wards are large and growing due to their
proximity to the Oquirrh Mountain Temple and a lot of home building going on. It
is a lovely building that will be very well used!