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Published: Thursday, Oct. 10 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

What happened to the tea rarity ultra conservative revolution?

The Skeptical Chymist
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Obama and the Democrats are right not to negotiate with economic terrorists. As long as the debt limit is being held hostage, he should hold firm.

Iron Rod
Salt Lake City, UT

In regard to spending money that we do not have.

Can any one explain the rational of borrowoing money to give it away in the form of foreign aid?

Who are more important American Citizens or people living in foreign countries?

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

From the opinion piece:

"Democrats have said they won’t negotiate until the government is funded and the debt ceiling is raised. Republicans are making hay over the Democrats’ refusal to negotiate, but in fairness, Republicans have not laid down terms for any reasonable negotiation other than to demand concessions."

Absolutely.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Of course WE think our Washington needs to address the "REAL" issues. Problem is... to THEM the "REAL" issue is getting the other party un-elected and more their brand elected. They have their eye on the wrong issue...

Obama promised to change "Washington-as-usual". So the first thing he does is lock Republicans out of the ObamaCare debate... and ram it through without a single minority vote? How does he think that is going to END the divide??

All that did was teach Republicans the lesson that they aren't going to even be INVOLVED in government while Democrats had a Super-Majority. They won't have a say in ANYTHING unless they get numbers in Washington. So now the ONLY thing that matters is getting numbers in Washington (because IF Democrats get a super-majority again they know the minority will have no say in government). IMO how Democrats handled their brief Super-Majority honeymoon poisoned the well in Washington for a LOOONG time (instead of fixing it).

It also gave Democrats hope that they can wipe out Republicans once and for all... and never have to worry about sharing government again (a dangerous attitude)

Mainly Me
Werribee, 00

In my opinion: We need to get rid of the entire leadership starting at the WH then Congress and put in people who are willing to work for the good of the country, not the good of a specific tiny group of people.

Iron Rod
Salt Lake City, UT

Re 2 Bits
Cottonwood Heights.

Would you be so kind as to amplify two of your comments.

"Lock Republicans out of Obama Care Debate"

Ram it through without a single minority vote"

In my view it passed both houses of Congress and the President Signed it and it went to the Supreme Court and they passed on it and then it was one of the major issues in the last Presidential election. The candidate that lost wanted to repeal it the first day in office.

To me many people validated it including the majority of the population in the last election.

Please correct me if I am wrong but has not the House of Representatives in the last year voted over 40 times on this issue?

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Iron Rod,
I really don't know how I could amplify it more.

Google "Dems Lock Out Republicans — Literally", and read the ABC News report (dated Oct 21, 2009). Democrats literally changed the locks on the doors and wouldn't let Republicans into the committee meetings on ObamaCare.

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The 2nd topic... This is a quote from a ObamaCare vote count article.

"The final vote tally for the Senate version of President Obama's health care reform legislation in the House was 219-212, with 34 Democrats joining all Republicans in opposition... Speaker Pelosi needed to make a last-day deal with Rep. Bart Stupak and his small group of pro-life Democrats in order to achieve passage".

In other words, it passed by 7 votes. All Republicans voted against it, and even 34 Democrats voted against it... but still it passed because Democrats had such an unhealthy majority at the time.

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Agree with the opposition or not... it's good for the debate to have some minority representation to bring even a modicum of compromise.

Balance is good. Total and complete elimination of the other party Democrats seem to dream of would lead to one-party tyranny IMO.

goatesnotes
Kamas, UT

The "wish list" on how to move the government out of its stalemate grows shorter each day. How about a few statesmen from both sides sitting in a room until they hammer it out together? Are there enough pragmatists left to gather who can discuss what's best for America? That's all I have on my my short list of wishes now. Let's encourage them to at least open with a conversation around a table. What wearies me is the constant sniping at each other through the media. They resemble school yard taunts. We can do better than "negotiation" through public name calling.

bandersen
Saint George, UT

This is an oxymoron! Washington tackles hard issues? You have to be kidding! Nobody wants to tackle hard issues, least of all the politicians put in charge of tackling them. The delusion of a socialist utopia drives our politics, something that will fail when it all comes to a head. America was not made to be a socialist country, but liberty and fascism will collide and a victor will ultimately be declared.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

goatesnotes
Kamas, UT

I agree it would help if they would actually get face-to-face and talk to each other... instead of just talking to each other through the media, never really having a dialog, just trying to score your points through the media in hopes of bending the public opinion polls... but not really listening to anything the other side says or even trying to be constructive or work anything out.

Maybe we should put a News blackout on this one and sequester them like a jury in a room where they have to stay until they work it out, in order to force them talk to each other instead of just talking to the cameras.

bandersen
Saint George, UT

The delusion here is rather comical. The liberal democrats 'hope' that the Republicans .....(fill in the blank) and The Republicans 'hope' that the Democrats will.....(fill in the blank), but I for one have no 'hope' in citizens who are so naive as to think that 'Washington' politicians would ever do anything but what will protect their own self-interest, including ignoring anything that will actually help the a common citizen. How naive and how long do I have to suffer such nonsense! That's why I have to laugh!

louie
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The Editorial Board is off the mark on this one. It is true that there will need to be minor remedies to the SS and Medicare funds but they pale in comparison to a threat of default on debts. The Trustees' report said that within 15 years the depletion of the those funds reserves will result in some reduction of benefits unless taxes or benefits are changed. The reductions in benefits would be about 12 percent based on current levels. But These changes are not at all horrific. In other words changes in the eligibility age or minor reduction in benefits would balance the income and disbursement of funding. By the way, how many state, county or city budgets have reserved funds. I believe the DN is making a mountain out of a mole hill when there is already a Mountain of a different kind in front of us.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

Washington will be broken until democrats are out of power. How bad has it got to get before a dummed down public sees the truth? Barack Obama is what our founders had nightmares about and the entire progressive movement will destroy ...and I mean destroy....every fabric of what once was America.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

"How bad has it got to get before a dummed down public sees the truth?" Our failure to properly fund education is destroying every fabric of what once was America.

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