Published: Thursday, Oct. 10 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT
Dan, this oped is highly disappointing. I strongly defended you during the
'12 primaries, even publicly proclaiming support in my bid for county
delegate. But after this piece I am inclined to believe you're like most
Republicans in the Senate since your piece advocates "compromise",
"political realities" etc. These tactics have gotten conservatives
nothing over the last decade. You have used your ink not as an opportunity to
attack liberal policy, but have ironically chosen to publicly slap Senator Lee -
because why defend a fellow Republican when you can foment more party disunity
like most Washington Republicans? Some of us believe the ship is sinking, so to
speak, and only a few lone voices are willing to speak out forcefully, including
Senator Lee. From this piece I'm inclined to think you don't agree,
and that somehow a more unified but timid Republican Senate opposition will
solve our problems. For the sake of our country I hope you're right, since
you and others seem intent on bashing Lee, Cruz, the Tea Party, and pretty much
anyone with actual passion for the sad state our country's in.
Also, to clarify, I don't disagree with everything in your piece, but I do
find it comically hypocritical that your piece is on the dangers of alienating
or publicly castigating your political allies, when that's exactly what you
just did in writing this piece! If you were to follow your advice, wouldn't
you have privately shared your thoughts with the senator, rather than publicly
"I hope he will learn from this experience and work to repair relationships
over time. I hope it’s not too late for him to recover."[I
hope Jon M. Huntsman Jr. tries another run for President and not the Senate. I
hope I can now win the GOP nomination.]
Seems like the author of this story doesn't like a person who stands up for
his convictions. We don't elect people to get along, we elect them to do
what is right. Maybe this is why the writer lost his last election, his
convictions don't match those of the electorate.
An excellent commentary on current conditions. It is interesting to consider
the public perception of elected officials and then learn of their acts and
deeds that didn't get the attention of the media or the public. Such a
person was Senator Bob Dole who was instrumental in working across party lines
to resolve issues between then President Reagan and House Speaker Tip
O'Neill. His unselfish determination and his leadership in working for the
American people first, and not just looking out for his own skin in the
political game made the difference in avoiding situations like the one we are
facing right now. That image never surfaced when he ran for president, at least
not to my recollection. I'm glad he was there at the time.
Sen. Mike Lee has done exactly why I voted for him. I will eagerly vote for him
again. It is time that more stand up and quit trying to just get along. More
Mike Lee's and less good old boys.
In June, Lee’s favorability rating stood at 50 percent. In the latest
poll, which wrapped up over the weekend, just 40 percent of voters had a
favorable impression of Lee. His unfavorable rating was 51 percent in the most
recent poll.Even among Republicans, Lee’s favorability dropped
from 71 percent to 57 percent.The poll found 57 percent of all
voters want to see Lee be more willing to compromise in the ongoing budget
standoff.Lee has strong support — 90 percent — from
those who identify themselves as active in the tea party.The poll
was conducted by researchers at Brigham Young University’s Center for the
Study of Elections and Democracy.
Re: "We will likely never know what possessed this man to take his own life
. . . ."But, as the article attests, that certainly won't
prevent liberals from appropriating these deranged acts for their own purposes,
disingenuously blaming reasonable, rational, thinking conservatives for the
irrational acts of a madman.This is just sad.And,
it's going from bad to worse.
I doubt it.
For once, I sincerely hope that Mr. Lilienquist is correct. I hope that Senator
Lee has damaged himself so badly that his influence in the Senate will be quite
limited. He is bad news for the state of Utah and for the United States.
I often wonder what the Continental Congress approval rating would have been
during the Revolution.
@dmumford. Republicans are the minority right now. When you are in the minority
you can't get what you want but hope to get something through compromise.
Shutting down the government or not increasing the debt limit should
not be used to get what you want. What if the situation was reversed and the
democrats were doing this in the House? Would republicans be congratulating them
on being principled and not backing down?
We need more Mike Lees. He's doing a great job. We need less of Orin
Hatch - a RINO. Go get 'em, Mike!
Yes. By all means, we need a senator that is more concerned with his own
political power and in getting along and in promoting the status quo that got us
into this mess in the first place; than one who stands up for what is right and
represents the people who elected him by refusing to compromise his/her
principles....oh wait, we already have a whole bunch of those kinds
Lee is right. The more uninsured Americans, the stronger America will be.And while we're at it, let's not do anything about the out of
control costs for medical care. That will make us even better.
Can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with Dan. I guess
there's a first for everything. I am concerned, though, about the still
large number of Utahns who for some reason think Mike Lee is not trying to
destroy the country and perhaps even the world economy. The commenters here who
support hit stunt scare me. Yes, I get it that you don't like Obama. I get
it that you're tired of business as usual in Washington. But do you really
think governmental and economic collapse is preferable? Come out of the
right-wing echo chamber. See the consequences of your attitudes. The tea party
is on the wane. You will never have enough power to do anything except obstruct
and destroy. Why not shift toward reality a little and become part of a solution
rather than the main cause of our problems? Do you really enjoy watching Lee
destroy the very Constitution he thinks he understands?
"caught up in the intoxication of elected office, perhaps mistaking
attention for influence, perhaps focused on developing their own celebrity with
a view to higher office, would take every opportunity to lecture rather than
listen, to posture rather than persuade, to criticize rather than
communicate," said the pot to the kettle.Although I would never
vote for Mike again, by now it must be painfully obvious to everyone that Dan is
using this media outlet to opportunistically position himself for the next open
slot in D.C.
A reminder to you tea party hardliners who support Mike Lee's underhanded
tactics:Republicans lost the presidency 322 electoral votes to 206
in 2012.Republicans lost a net 2 seats in the Senate in 2012.Republicans lost a net 6 House seats in 2012. (Yes, you lost 6 seats.)This was a mild referendum on tea party ideas. It is nothing compared to
what you have coming in 2014. After the Lee and Cruz extortion attempt and their
very real threat to destroy the country and the Constitution, the tea party will
be the best tool for the Democrats to woo the largest voting bloc in the
country: independents. If I were you, I'd start looking for real solutions
that the American people can accept. Basically, you've been reading the tea
I agree. While I support much of Lee's agenda, I believe he has selected a
very counterproductive and ineffective strategy to promote it. His actions have
only made it harder for the minority Republicans to work with and achieve
anything with the Democrats. Worse, he has dramatically worsened the
party's image with moderate, swing voters hurting the party's chances
of regaining the Senate next year and the Presidency in 3 years. Only by
winning the next two national elections can the Republicans really enact their
agenda. While I do not doubt his sincerity in his beliefs, his methods of
acting on those beliefs have made the party look extreme and juvenile in the
eyes of much of the nation- making it much harder to achieve his goals.
Uuuummm... He's a freshman. Exactly what effectiveness did he have BEFORE
this? Proposed nothing, passed nothing... talked a lot, but is that
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