atl134Salt Lake City, UTHeh, so much for the conspiracy theory that
anti-Mormon bigotry from Stanford kept BYU out of the PAC.In the
conference and playing a game are two different things. BYU's stance
against Sunday play -- one all their fans agree with -- is what has kept and is
keeping BYU out of a conference they would be willing to be part of.
Heh, so much for the conspiracy theory that anti-Mormon bigotry from Stanford
kept BYU out of the PAC.
@Reno,IF byu were to win out AND go undefeated next year?LOLWhen was the last time byu won 20 games in a row? You guys
couldn't go undefeated in the mwc, and now your scheldue is supposed to be
so much harder and you think you have a chance to go undefeated?LOL
Chris B,You are correct the power conferences are putting a strangle hold
on who is allowed access to the new playoffs and yes Utah is in a power
conference but the way Utah is playing and not winning conference games they
have a worse chance then BYU of getting in the playoffs!!! If BYU were to win
out this year they would be highly ranked and receive preseason votes in the
polls next year and if they went undefeated next year they would probably be
ranked high enough to get a spot in the playoffs just like the formula that lead
to the NC title in 84!!!Go BYU beat GT!!!Go Stanford beat Utah!!!
Thomas,Jealous much?After the "BCS" ends where
do you think the next national champion will come from?Power
conferencesNext one?Power conferencesNext
one?Power conferencesNext one?Power
ConferencesSpin it any way you want, Utah is IN, byu is OUT
@Floyd Johnson"Independence has been great for out of state fans like
myself"Couldn't agree more! Independence, ESPN and teams
like Notre Dame, BSU and others willing to schedule us have made the past
seasons 100X better than being chained to the MWC. Holmoe is doing
a great job, and he is True Blue. I've loved hearing his EdWeek meetings
on the occasions when we can be up there dropping off kids for school.
He's a straight shooter, wicked-smart, and fully invested former student,
player, fan and parent. We're lucky to have him.For those
delusional wretches who persist in thinking than another Utah-based school will
sniff a NC game as the new co-doormat of a shiny-fancy BCS conference, I can
only smile at my computer screen whenever they pop off. It's how you play
as well as who you play.
at ronald - Ivy league schools are in the FCS division for football and
don't often play bodybag games against D-1 teams. Middle Tennessee St. is
at least FBS. Last season they beat Ga. tech. Although, I think BYU ought to
try to schedule the best FCS teams possible when they have to play an FCS team.
Like it would be a good game to play Eastern Washington this season.
I have a suggestion:For the (give me) games, instead of scheduling
teams like South-East Section of Tim Buck Too,or Tripple Middle Tennessee,
why not try to get schools like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, and the
like. These are (give me) games that have name recognition and would be far
more interesting than playing schools that we have never heard of before.
Sofa,If byu's goal is to play in a national championship,
shouldn't they put together a schedule that will allow that? What national title game participant in recent history has had a schedule
similar to byu's?NONE!LOLAnd usu is
HAHAHAHA Power conf teams chris? That has NOTHING to do with it... who cares if
they play a bunch of power conference dogs (see utah)its about
strength and ranking of the teams, not the conference they are in.
Floyd,I agree its not worse than a MWC lineup. It's just
vastly inferior to any schedule that the 60+ power conference teams have.
As far as the National Championship: all National Championships (for the
foreseeable future) will be won by the SEC. Any other conference affiliation is
irrelevant. I cringe every time I hear the suggestion that BYU join a
conference. Independence has been great for out of state fans like myself and
The Solution. Every game is televised. With games spread throughout the country,
there is a greater likelihood that we will be able to drive to a game at least
every other year. That "accessibility" has been the real benefit. Gone
are the days of locking ourselves into Direct TV contracts to watch five
football games each year.For those critical of the 2014 schedule, it
isn't any worse than the old MWC lineup.
Nice job, Tom. Yes, it's a challenge to build your own schedule as an
indie and it is impossible to predict how good any given team will be in 3-5
years. Just don't schedule any in-state patsies.
UtahBruin,When did I suggest Cal wasn't in a BCS conference?Good luck!
I have thoroughly enjoyed watching BYU play all over the country as an Indy.
BYU is making more money then they ever have in the past with their partnership
in ESPN. Most people recognize BYU as a top mid-major program. It will be
great when that changes, but until then I do not have to unrealistically believe
that BYU should be NC contenders every year. I just want to see progress to
that goal until it is eventually achieved. We just hit the reset button at the
end of last year, so take a deep breath and enjoy the rest of this season, which
could realistically be a strong 11-2 top 25 ranked season. Then we can build
from there.GO COUGS!
ChrisBUnless you are calling the PAC-10+2 a Non BCS Conference you
should probably update your comment above. Last I checked, Cal was in the
PAC-10+2 and part of a BCS Conference. Also, the BCS stuff is going to go by
the wayside here very shortly as the new format takes place. It will allow for
that one team to break in. And I know you do not have a team that breaks in
sine Utah did it. So I know you give validity to those teams that do. And Utah
did it with a WAC like schedule also. So there is hope for these Cougar fans,
despite the schedule. Just some words to the wise.GO BRUINS!
I'm grateful that I can still watch old BYU football games from the time
they were great and had a QB who could hit a dime 30 yards away. Nowadays, we
get QBs who couldn't hit the chest of a receiver standing still at half
that distance. BYU is not a national football powerhouse anymore. In
comparison to all the BCS teams in the nation, they would be in the lower half.
Could they fit into a BCS conference? Sure, if it weren't for the fact BYU
thinks they're elite and deserve special treatment. As such, no one wants
them in their league. They should have happily stayed put in the
MWC. At least there was something to play for. Now, it's either national
championship or bust. And after game one this season, it was bust.They need a conference. And until they get one, I'll hold off on patting
Tom Holmoe's back for scheduling Savannah Smiles State.
Chris B - Boy I never thought I would agree with you, but in this case I do.
BYU's 2014 schedule, even if they win all of their games is such a cupcake
schedule that no one would dare put them in the national title game. Cal and
Virginia are among the worst teams in their conference, and Texas is a mid-level
Big 12 team at best, even if they do have all those 5 star recruits. BYU has to
up their game substantially to get a whiff of a National Championship.
This is one of the few times that Chris B is right. BYU's 2014 schedule is
pretty weak. The author touts UConn and Virginia as being two of the highlights
of the 2014 schedule? that shows the 2014 schedule is pretty weak - UConn is
0-4 this season with a loss to an average FCS team. Virginia is showing itself
again this season to be a BCS bottom-feeder. 2014 is the unfortunate type of
schedule where BYU could go undefeated and still not make it into the 4-team
playoff. but 2015 should be more back on track with Nebraska and Michigan. On
the bright side it might be great timing for BYU if Southern Miss which is on an
18 game losing streak backs out of its 2014-2015 series with BYU.
I don't think that higher caliber teams will be reticient to schedule BYU
in the future, because of BYU's ESPN contract...if those teams want to get
an invitation to the collegiate playoffs, then they need good media exposure,
which they get anticipate getting by playing on ESPN (obviously they'd hope
to *beat down* BYU, but the cougars have other plans we presume). So I think
they'd still be interested in playing in Provo, even late in the season.
Let's see:Bronco talks yearly about winning a national
championship. And lets look at the 2014 schedule Tom put together and see if
that bodes well(in the one in a million chance byu could ever go undefeated)1. Cal2. Texas3. Virginia.4. non BCS team5. non
BCS team6. non BCS team7. non BCS team8. non BCS team9.
non BCS team10. non BCS team11. non BCS team12. non BCS
team3 power conference team. 9 non power conference teams.Tell me byu fans, when was the last time a team only had 3 BCS opponents and
made it to the national title game? LOL!What a weak
Silent LurkerTake off the crimson glasses sometime and step into
reality.NOBODY considers BYU an easy win, including Chris Hill,
Utah's athletic director, who said the reason he dropped BYU for a couple
of years was because he didn't think the Utes were good enough to handle
playing BYU and Michigan OOC in the same year.btw, NONE of
BYU's games with PAC 12 teams have been one-and-dones. Your silly spin
loses all credibility win you blatantly mis-represent the facts.
There are not many schools in the country that can handle being independent.
I'm proud that BYU has shown that they have the muster to do it and
I'm sure that as the years go by they will reach the level Notre Dame has
now. But who has time to wait? The reality is that with the BCS system as is,
it will be harder and harder to schedule big name teams for us to play let alone
having them come to Provo. So the only real answer is to join a conference, and
I hope Holmoe is working towards that. Until then, I'm hoping my Cougars
remain focus on winning. It's the only real key to gain prominence and
respect.Go Cougars! Go Utes! Go Aggies!
Not so fast leaf, it's true that BYU has some entertaining games scheduled
but at the same time they are also having to play five or six gimme games each
year. That is the only way they can become bowl eligible. As far as scheduling
Pac 12 opponents take a closer look and you will see a unbalanced schedule among
the Pac which enables them to schedule a soft game because of the schedule. In
which case BYU is a perfect match. They are considered an easy win, travel is
short, they bring the some extra Mormon fans, and they are an easy buy out if
needed. Other notable out of area teams are one and done's or two for
one's. At a closer look it isn't what you claim.
Zoniezoobie shouldn't speak for all BYU fans. When he says "What WE
are hoping for," he really means "What I am hoping for," As for me, I like the independence we have. I look forward to playing
more prominent teams from a wider geographical area throughout the year.With that said, he is right about what happens if we lose just one
game.. but that part falls to the team and coaches to assure we put the best
possible team together and play without error in every game.Go
Great story except for the Savannah State part. I appreciate the refresher on
how we got here. What we are hoping for, is a return to a conference in the
next year or so, which would probably activate the escape clause in all these
agreements. Big games are great, but one loss and we are out of the running.