Comments about ‘Commentary: BYU's Tom Holmoe deserves a hat tip for scheduling Stanford, among others’

Return to article »

Published: Tuesday, Oct. 8 2013 7:40 p.m. MDT

Comments
  • Oldest first
  • Newest first
  • Most recommended
Zoniezoobie
Mesa, AZ

Great story except for the Savannah State part. I appreciate the refresher on how we got here. What we are hoping for, is a return to a conference in the next year or so, which would probably activate the escape clause in all these agreements. Big games are great, but one loss and we are out of the running.

BigCougFan
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Zoniezoobie shouldn't speak for all BYU fans. When he says "What WE are hoping for," he really means "What I am hoping for,"

As for me, I like the independence we have. I look forward to playing more prominent teams from a wider geographical area throughout the year.

With that said, he is right about what happens if we lose just one game.. but that part falls to the team and coaches to assure we put the best possible team together and play without error in every game.

Go Cougars!

Silent Lurker
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Not so fast leaf, it's true that BYU has some entertaining games scheduled but at the same time they are also having to play five or six gimme games each year. That is the only way they can become bowl eligible. As far as scheduling Pac 12 opponents take a closer look and you will see a unbalanced schedule among the Pac which enables them to schedule a soft game because of the schedule. In which case BYU is a perfect match. They are considered an easy win, travel is short, they bring the some extra Mormon fans, and they are an easy buy out if needed. Other notable out of area teams are one and done's or two for one's. At a closer look it isn't what you claim.

thebigsamoan
Richmond, VA

There are not many schools in the country that can handle being independent. I'm proud that BYU has shown that they have the muster to do it and I'm sure that as the years go by they will reach the level Notre Dame has now. But who has time to wait? The reality is that with the BCS system as is, it will be harder and harder to schedule big name teams for us to play let alone having them come to Provo. So the only real answer is to join a conference, and I hope Holmoe is working towards that. Until then, I'm hoping my Cougars remain focus on winning. It's the only real key to gain prominence and respect.

Go Cougars! Go Utes! Go Aggies!

anti BCS
Anaheim, CA

Silent Lurker

Take off the crimson glasses sometime and step into reality.

NOBODY considers BYU an easy win, including Chris Hill, Utah's athletic director, who said the reason he dropped BYU for a couple of years was because he didn't think the Utes were good enough to handle playing BYU and Michigan OOC in the same year.

btw, NONE of BYU's games with PAC 12 teams have been one-and-dones. Your silly spin loses all credibility win you blatantly mis-represent the facts.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Let's see:

Bronco talks yearly about winning a national championship. And lets look at the 2014 schedule Tom put together and see if that bodes well(in the one in a million chance byu could ever go undefeated)

1. Cal
2. Texas
3. Virginia.
4. non BCS team
5. non BCS team
6. non BCS team
7. non BCS team
8. non BCS team
9. non BCS team
10. non BCS team
11. non BCS team
12. non BCS team

3 power conference team. 9 non power conference teams.

Tell me byu fans, when was the last time a team only had 3 BCS opponents and made it to the national title game?

LOL!

What a weak schedule.

rogerdpack2
Orem, UT

I don't think that higher caliber teams will be reticient to schedule BYU in the future, because of BYU's ESPN contract...if those teams want to get an invitation to the collegiate playoffs, then they need good media exposure, which they get anticipate getting by playing on ESPN (obviously they'd hope to *beat down* BYU, but the cougars have other plans we presume). So I think they'd still be interested in playing in Provo, even late in the season.

caleb in new york
Glen Cove, NY

This is one of the few times that Chris B is right. BYU's 2014 schedule is pretty weak. The author touts UConn and Virginia as being two of the highlights of the 2014 schedule? that shows the 2014 schedule is pretty weak - UConn is 0-4 this season with a loss to an average FCS team. Virginia is showing itself again this season to be a BCS bottom-feeder. 2014 is the unfortunate type of schedule where BYU could go undefeated and still not make it into the 4-team playoff. but 2015 should be more back on track with Nebraska and Michigan. On the bright side it might be great timing for BYU if Southern Miss which is on an 18 game losing streak backs out of its 2014-2015 series with BYU.

Horrible Stumper
Hyrum, UT

Chris B - Boy I never thought I would agree with you, but in this case I do. BYU's 2014 schedule, even if they win all of their games is such a cupcake schedule that no one would dare put them in the national title game. Cal and Virginia are among the worst teams in their conference, and Texas is a mid-level Big 12 team at best, even if they do have all those 5 star recruits. BYU has to up their game substantially to get a whiff of a National Championship.

MapleDon
Springville, UT

I'm grateful that I can still watch old BYU football games from the time they were great and had a QB who could hit a dime 30 yards away. Nowadays, we get QBs who couldn't hit the chest of a receiver standing still at half that distance.

BYU is not a national football powerhouse anymore. In comparison to all the BCS teams in the nation, they would be in the lower half. Could they fit into a BCS conference? Sure, if it weren't for the fact BYU thinks they're elite and deserve special treatment. As such, no one wants them in their league.

They should have happily stayed put in the MWC. At least there was something to play for. Now, it's either national championship or bust. And after game one this season, it was bust.

They need a conference. And until they get one, I'll hold off on patting Tom Holmoe's back for scheduling Savannah Smiles State.

UtahBruin
Saratoga Springs, UT

ChrisB

Unless you are calling the PAC-10+2 a Non BCS Conference you should probably update your comment above. Last I checked, Cal was in the PAC-10+2 and part of a BCS Conference. Also, the BCS stuff is going to go by the wayside here very shortly as the new format takes place. It will allow for that one team to break in. And I know you do not have a team that breaks in sine Utah did it. So I know you give validity to those teams that do. And Utah did it with a WAC like schedule also. So there is hope for these Cougar fans, despite the schedule. Just some words to the wise.

GO BRUINS!

The Solution
Dayton, OH

I have thoroughly enjoyed watching BYU play all over the country as an Indy. BYU is making more money then they ever have in the past with their partnership in ESPN. Most people recognize BYU as a top mid-major program. It will be great when that changes, but until then I do not have to unrealistically believe that BYU should be NC contenders every year. I just want to see progress to that goal until it is eventually achieved. We just hit the reset button at the end of last year, so take a deep breath and enjoy the rest of this season, which could realistically be a strong 11-2 top 25 ranked season. Then we can build from there.

GO COUGS!

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

UtahBruin,

When did I suggest Cal wasn't in a BCS conference?

Good luck!

Cougarista
Salt Lake City, UT

Nice job, Tom. Yes, it's a challenge to build your own schedule as an indie and it is impossible to predict how good any given team will be in 3-5 years. Just don't schedule any in-state patsies.

Floyd Johnson
Broken Arrow, OK

As far as the National Championship: all National Championships (for the foreseeable future) will be won by the SEC. Any other conference affiliation is irrelevant. I cringe every time I hear the suggestion that BYU join a conference. Independence has been great for out of state fans like myself and The Solution. Every game is televised. With games spread throughout the country, there is a greater likelihood that we will be able to drive to a game at least every other year. That "accessibility" has been the real benefit. Gone are the days of locking ourselves into Direct TV contracts to watch five football games each year.

For those critical of the 2014 schedule, it isn't any worse than the old MWC lineup.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Floyd,

I agree its not worse than a MWC lineup. It's just vastly inferior to any schedule that the 60+ power conference teams have.

Ifel Of'a-sofa
Alpine, Utah

HAHAHAHA Power conf teams chris? That has NOTHING to do with it... who cares if they play a bunch of power conference dogs (see utah)

its about strength and ranking of the teams, not the conference they are in.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Sofa,

If byu's goal is to play in a national championship, shouldn't they put together a schedule that will allow that?

What national title game participant in recent history has had a schedule similar to byu's?

NONE!

LOL

And usu is worse.

Ronald Uharriet
SWun City, Ca.

I have a suggestion:

For the (give me) games, instead of scheduling teams like South-East Section of Tim Buck Too,
or Tripple Middle Tennessee, why not try to get schools like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, and the like. These are (give me) games that have name recognition and would be far more interesting than playing schools that we have never heard of before.

caleb in new york
Glen Cove, NY

at ronald - Ivy league schools are in the FCS division for football and don't often play bodybag games against D-1 teams. Middle Tennessee St. is at least FBS. Last season they beat Ga. tech. Although, I think BYU ought to try to schedule the best FCS teams possible when they have to play an FCS team. Like it would be a good game to play Eastern Washington this season.

to comment

DeseretNews.com encourages a civil dialogue among its readers. We welcome your thoughtful comments.
About comments