Comments about ‘Gov. Gary Herbert to President Obama: Let Utah run national parks’

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Published: Tuesday, Oct. 8 2013 4:30 p.m. MDT

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Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

We don't need the rangers or the buildings.
Just leave the roads and the parking lots open.

ute alumni
paradise, UT

gary,
take back all of utah's real estate. feds should not own anything in the state.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

Obama to Herbert -> NO!

trueblue87
Provo, UT

I feel that Utah should just run the parks permanently.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

A shutdown is a shutdown, not just of the stuff you don't care about. It wasn't vindictive in that sense, it was across the board. If you don't like it, take it up with congress. As for the parks, is the state going to pay to run them? What revenue would accrue to the state from people with existing park passes? If there is a major disaster or even a lawsuit from a missing hiker, who would step up to the plate? The state? I think it's foolish to simply see the NPS as simply an absentee land owner. They actively preserve these places for all of us and for posterity.

deserthound
Salt Lake City, UT

Back at ya, Mike.

“These [politicians] are willing and able to wield tremendous influence in a manner that serves the political ambitions of the few at the expense of the many."

1conservative
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

I thought Obama said he was all for JOBS?

Tourist dollars bring jobs.

Was Obama fibbing when he said he wanted JOBS?

Or did he mean he just wanted guvmint JOBS?

southmtnman
Provo, UT

I think this is a bold idea from Herbert.

I kind of like it.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Gov. Herbert should be asking the ringleader, Sen. Lee, not Obama.

UT ranks in the top 10 of states with the most federal employees per capita.

ParkCityAggie
Park City, Ut

Feds should not own anything in this state HA, that's a hoot! Uh I seem to recall the Federal Government purchasing virtually the entire State of Utah from Mexico via the treaty of Hidalgo. And it's like the State has as a great track record of being such a great steward of the land. We'd have friends of Herbert and the lawmakers drilling for fools gold in the middle of Kolob Canyon. And didn't we have a budget crises here not to long ago and we ourselves threatened to shut down some state parks? Yea great idea.

gittalopctbi
Glendale, AZ

Oh, right Sierra Club Mr. Wagner--Sen. Lee is solely responsible for the shutdown. You obviously didn't read the bill that was voted on. And even if he was, the manner in which the president is acting in this is totally childish, petty, and shameful.

As one who is a frequent user of national parks, I USED to respect the National Park rangers. No longer.

3grandslams
Iowa City, IA

Clearly the shutdown has shown we are too dependent on the Fed government. The state can manage its own beautiful country just fine, in fact better than the national gov.

Blue Bolshevik
Salt Lake City, UT

Now that's funny. Have y'all seen the shape state parks are in? Abysmal and filthy.

A1994
Centerville, UT

@Hutterite

Actually, only 17% of the government is officially shutdown. 83% is still operating. This IS vindictive. I know because the same guy who shut down the White House tours is the guy who decides what gets closed during a government shutdown. If the state has money to do it, Obama ought to say 'fine.' But that would defeat his sole purpose here.

UteMiguel
Go Utes, CA

I cannot fathom why anyone thinks a response from the Sierra Club is relevant to this issue.

mountainlocal
Brooklyn, NY

Utah is really calling for favors when their state senator is one of "the principled" who orchestrated the government shut down. Gov. Herbert needs to press those within his own party and state. Reaching to the enemy for a handout during a time of war is kind of pathetic and naive. No way does Obama grant access and why would he?

RedneckLefty
St. George, UT

The hypocrisy and childishness of the GOP is breathtaking. This shutdown is 100% the work of the Republican party. But then when it starts to hurt, the Republicans ask Obama for a Band-Aid.

Shut the CDC, FDA, WIC, bridge inspectors, dam inspectors, tax advisors, and a hundred other things. But suddenly, it affects them, and all of the sudden it's "Hey wait a second that's not what I meant!"

You ask for small government, you get small government.

Also, from a purely strategic standpoint, why in the world would the White House care about making Utah angry. Utah will never be an electorally competitive state. Which means that Republicans know that no matter how bad they screw up they'll never lose the Utah vote, and Democrats know that no matter how many things they do for Utah, they'll never win the Utah vote.

That's what you get when you have one-party rule, folks: you become completely irrelevant to national politics. I bet Obama has already been on the phone with Chaffetz and Lee, chuckling, saying "Gee, guys, sounds like your shutdown is hurting your pals back home!"

ute alumni
paradise, UT

Brooklyn
I love the fact you are commenting regarding Utah. Take a look at the great politicians that hail from ny. You may want to worry about them

fluwoebers
Fairfax, VA

This is petty and vindictive behavior by the president. For many of the parks, shutting them down requires more money and resources than leaving them open. There is no justification for this.
It is time for UT (and every state) to assert authority over it's territory.

Martin Blank
Salt Lake City, UT

I'd be much more supportive if Mr. Herbert were talking about, say, fully funding the WIC program and feeding women and children in crisis than opening federally owned and run parks. As has been mentioned, there are a host of legal and logistical issues that I don't think have been considered, or considered enough. Do we really have the resources to run Glen Canyon National Recreation Area, for example? Will Utah be on the hook for any search and rescue efforts in Zion or Arches? How do we have the money for that if we've been closing "unpopular" state parks? What happens when someone (either in the state parks department or a private citizen) decides that since it's the state running things that "wilderness areas" aren't off-limits to motorized vehicles anymore?

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