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Published: Friday, Oct. 4 2013 10:05 p.m. MDT

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Baccus0902
Leesburg, VA

@ Captain Green
Matthew 22:29 "Jesus replied, "You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God"

Acts 2:42-44The Fellowship of the Believers

44 And all who believed were together and had all things in common. 45 And they were selling their possessions and belongings and distributing the proceeds to all, as any had need. 46 And day by day, attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes, they received their food with glad and generous hearts, 47 praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to their number day by day those who were being saved.

Socialism is an ugly word for you. Socialism and communism may define the millennium. Forget Marxism, I am talking about the government of Christ.

arand
Huntsville, u

Let us not forget, it might be better for a little shut down now for a deeper discussion, than to end up with a total collapse a little further down the road. We can't keep printing money, because sooner or later no one will want our debt. Have you noticed how many potato chips are now in a bag now compared to a couple of years ago. It is called inflation, the kind we really don't notice all at once, but it is still there. Finally when the Fed has to raise interest rates, which it will finally have to do, we are going to be in big trouble.

We have to stop playing this political game on both sides of the isle. Remember, when you point a finger, you always have 3 of your own fingers pointing back at you.

UGradBYUfan
Snowflake, AZ

Trying to defund a legitimately legislated law by shutting down the entire federal government, and threatening to default on debts that could lead to a recession (or a depression) that could dwarf the recession brought about by the bursting of the housing and finance bubble, and could destabilize the WORLD'S ECONOMY, is NOT what I want in a President. It shows that he is grandstanding, rather than trying to save democreacy.

Mr. Lee is playing a political game of chicken! Even if republicans back down in time to avoid defaulting, there is a distinct possibility that the damage that has been done could lead to damage and undermine the United States' role as a financial superpower that leads in setting economic policy for the world.

This may sound exaggerated, but remember what happen the last time the "fiscal cliff" was averted, and how it led to the lowering of the credit rating of the US. The reason why? They doubted the ability of the two party system to compromise and come to an agreement over on a satisfying political solution to the divides that could lead to default....

AND HERE WE ARE AGAIN! AND WE ARE EVEN MORE DIVIDED!

no fit in SG
St.George, Utah

Some people look forward to Christmas, vacations, warm weather.
From now on we can also look forward to extreme right wing Tea Party politicians who chose to shutdown the US government and totally disrupt our country.
According to them this will occur year after year after year.....
Let's find a name for this, so we can put it on our calendars as a day to remember!

Ophelia
Bountiful, UT

Dan Jones provides accurate,reliable polls. Those who dismiss his polls as liberal and inaccurate are likely the same types of people who dismissed the polls predicting an Obama win. Many were completely shocked -- including Romney -- when Romney lost.

It's important to look at the time-tested, scientific polls -- such as Dan Jones. Accurate, scientific polls also suggest the Republicans are currently self-destructing; yet stubborn, rigid Republicans refuse to see the writing on the wall.

New to Utah
PAYSON, UT

Obama and Reid apparently haven't read or simply don't care and the constitution which clearly establishes three branches of government. Democrats are being exceeding selfish and arrogant, they are wanting everything and giving up nothing. This indicates that they are the culprits wanting to shut down government. Obama has never really governed all he does is campaign and complain. He then says disingenuous things like he works with Republicans. No he dictates his demands and using the bully pulpit and a lapdog media to force his way. It is Harry Reid and Obama who shut down the government.

Interloper
Portland, OR

The Utah poll results reported here are confirmed by national poll results. Contrary to what the far Right true believers think, more than 70% of Americans oppose the Republican shutdown of our federal government. Most understand that 'Obamacare' is a viable law passed by both Houses of Congress and signed by the President. It was also upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States. People know there is no rational reason to let most Republicans in the House overrule a duly passed law. All of our branches of government count, not just a minority of the majority of the House.

Solon
Draper, UT

I believe that it is unconscionable that the President or Congress would play chicken with a government default.

MGB
Saint George, UT

Obama and Reid are responsible for shutting down the government because they refused to accept the funding money the House gave them to fully fund the government less Obamacare. Now Obama is trying to make it worse by shutting down things that are not owned or funded by the federal government like the state roads to some memorials and places like Mount Vernon, etc. The tyranny is getting worse each day. Thank goodness we have men of courage and not compromise like Lee and Cruz.

raybies
Layton, UT

Don't throw the baby out with the bath water. The government should keep its current obligations and do its best to restrict and peel back the things it can influence. These strong-handed maneuvers seldom yield good longterm solutions.

Gr8Dane
Tremonton, UT

Obamacare will cost my family over $6500 more a year for the "Gold" plan, meaning second from the bottom. Deductible will increase to $6000 a year, meaning that it will cost our family close to $15,000 a year for health insurance compared to $4200 at present. Someone is clearly benefitting from Obamacare, but it's not my family! Outrageous!! I will vote against any candidate or incumbent who is not for repealing this monstrosity!!

Spellman789
Syracuse, UT

He's not fighting for this Utahn.

3grandslams
Iowa City, IA

If we've learned anything with the shutdown is no shutdown is 100% and the president chooses to fund PBS over national parks.

Second, we are overly dependent on the Federal Government, good wake up call.

slcjimmy
SLC, UT

To the certain religious members that remain dominant in Utah and Idaho that use words such as "Patriotism", "Rights", "Freedom" (and my personal favorite) "The Constitution" I ask....Do these words only pertain to you and or your group's said beliefs? Amazing that you do not want the government involved in "your" healthcare decisions but then you are all just fine with the same government telling you whom you can and cannot marry! So many more things need to be fixed here in Utah. State education system (including teacher pay), draconian liquor laws, (again the government telling you what you can & cannot drink!) Infrastructure and most important voting out every last single one of these adolescent, destructive Tea Partiers!

slcjimmy
SLC, UT

My comments are ALWAYS censored by DN...It's Obama's fault!!!

Bob K
porland, OR

"A majority of Utahns don't believe it was worth shutting down the federal government to fight President Barack Obama's new health care law and most blame Republicans just as much as Democrats, according to a new Deseret News/KSL poll."

I mean, HOW can any Christian interested in fairness and truth blame the Dems in the same proportion as the Repubs, in this case?

Extortion is not a Christian value, nor is obstructionism, nor is being willing to damage the country to get your way.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

the government is shut down ...and ...oh my gosh....nothing has changed. Just like the sequester nonsense ...nothing has changed. The real truth is 80% of the government is up and running and with the exception of a national park or two what else has changed? Has the US mail stopped? Has social security checks stopped? Do our soldiers not have gas for their HumV's? If there is anything essential not running you can blame Harry and Barack because the GOP has proposed 8 bills to fully fund all Veterans stuff and other essential federal programs etc... but Barack is more concerned with 'making it hurt' than leading the nation. Yes sir ...make it hurt Barack. Nice to know we have a leader watching out for us doesn't it.

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