Dear Poyman, you misread my post. I didn't call BYU's scheduled
opponents high-school caliber, I called BYU high-school caliber. You compare BYU
and the Ducks, yet only one of them is undefeated.Sadly, history
does not matter in this game, hence the dwindling SEC, and the fact that the
Utes did not start the game with points on the scoreboard when they played
BYU.Finally, you are calling me a fair weather fan? You picked the
wrong man, Poyboy. I grew up near Autzen stadium. I was there when Gifford
Nielson broke his leg playing the Ducks, and I don't root for ANY other PAC
team, unless they're playing out of conference. So don't try to saddle
me with your own character flaws.The only thing you've said
that is right is that BYU has a huge fan base wherever they go. That is the
reason they go to bowl games.
Y Grad / Y Dad,It must be nice to look at the remainder of
you're inferior schedule and start planning for an inferior bowl. It's
my hope that someday soon the Utes can look at the remainder of their PAC 12
schedule and start planning for a quality bowl. If we qualify this year, I want
the Utes to play a worthy opponent. We have nothing to prove with byu. We would
beat you again and you guys would yne, rationalize, admit nothing, and keep
Here's a BYU fan hoping Utah becomes bowl eligible - hopefully the Kraft
Fight Hunger bowl.Yes I'd love our team to get another shot at
U. Sucker for punishment? Eternal optimist? Whatever, just let it happen!
@ekuteI don't want BYU in the pac12, I like independence and
have always been a proponent of them going independent. It is the best thing for
them. I will give you this, in football I am not so sure BYU would
be any better than utah is in the pac12, BYU is just an above average football
program at this point in time and utah is a barely average one. There are some
good teams in the pac12 so winning every week is a hard thing to do. But winning
occasionally, against the bad teams in the pac12, like utah has done, is
something I'm sure BYU could accomplish and in all of the other sports
there is no doubt at all that BYU would be far superior, and perform far better,
than utah has done in the pac12 with the lone exception of women's
poyman,No doubt, most LDS members across the nation follow byu (in
Utah too), props.Like I said...The PAC 12 doesn't want byu,
never has never will, and what you said doesn't disprove that.LaVell did a lot of good things for byu...a loooong time ago...he's
gone.I have seen improvement in the Utes since they joined the PAC
12 and in every game this year. You will eat you're words, and you're
hate will grow. Again, we're used to it.
The utes are the Kansas Jayhawks of the PAC12... They're uncompetitive
@ekuteActually, those who have followed the PAC8 and then the PAC10
like I have (since I live over here) know that the PAC Athletic Directors in the
80's were trying very hard to get BYU into the Conference... They were
unsuccessful for 2 reasons... 1) The Northern California School's Board of
Trustees wouldn't hear of it because of the school's religious
affiliation; and 2)BYU was hesitant to persue application and leave the WAC
without the university of utah also being invited.Another commonly
known fact is that the PAC AD's know that BYU brings a large increase in
gate receipts (far more than utah) whenever they match up against BYU because of
the fact that the Cougs travel extremely well... I have seen it first hand my
entire life... BYU takes a large contingency to every game over here... I have
also been to utah games over here and there is no comparison in the number of
opposing team tix that are sold.Truth is, utah is a PAC member today
because 5 Big 12 teams with invitations to join the conference turned the
invitation down and they needed another team to go with Colorado.
@bluesI live in Oregon and I know the Oregon fan... They're the
fans of whatever PAC team is winning... I like the Ducks and I hope they beat
Bama in the NC... But to belittle BYU's schedule from the Duck's
standpoint is laughable... Every publication in preseason showed the Cougs with
a stronger strength of schedule (both Marc Lawrence and Phil Steel list Oregon
with the 110th to 115th toughest schedule among the 126 FBS Programs in the
country)... BYU is listed in the top 35 in both..Hardly a pedestal from which a
Duck fan should preach on the toughness of schedule... As I recall,
BYU has done pretty well against the Ducks... I think the last game we played
(2006)was in Las Vegas with the Ducks losing 8 to 38. I actually have the Bruins
beating the Ducks in the Conference Championship game but losing in the regular
season match up.As for the utes... They made my friends alot of
money Thursday night (not covering the spread)and I suspect they will make them
alot more money this coming weekend...PREDICTION:STANFORD 49 utah 17 (The Indians, I mean the Cardinal, cover the spread).
You're a funny guy duck. The PAC 12 doesn't want byu, never has, never
will, yet you and you're friends are the biggest fans of all of it's
teams except one. I just read you're comment under the Dick
Harmon article about taysom. Seems somebody has the preaching down to a T...but
the practice...?This hypocrisy has been going on since the mid
70's, keep it up, we know it's all you have these days, we're
used to it.
Latest Sagarin Ratings:#29 BYU(3-2) #32 SOS#34 Utah(3-2) #15
SOS#38 USU(3-3) #41 SOSInterestingly, BYU #121 in team
completion percentage at 42.8% ; Ga Tech #122 at 42.7%btw,
Uteology#59 Houston and #90 Nevada are ranked ahead of #91 Colorado#210 Idaho State is ranked only slightly behind #199 Weber State
The Utes have the challenge of competing against tougher competition week in and
week out. They are getting better and they do play with a lot a heart. One again, there is no doubt that the non-conference games are by far their
easiestAlthough the game with the blue cougars has been a guaranteed
WIN this past decade, it has been a bit of a distraction at times. Two years without that game isn’t enough time. Heck, since the tea party
fan base of the cougs don't even acknowledge the loss, why play them ever
again? There is nothing to gain.
@ekute"you're Ducks would be smart not to look past the
PipesSalt Lake City, UTYeah Blues, High School caliber teams
like Georgia Tech, Boise State and Notre Dame. ------------No high school teams like Idaho State, Nevada, and Houston... I would also say
Virginia but you already lost to them.
In 2 PAC-12 games Utah is minus 8 in TOs (total 9 interceptions). From those
turnovers: * OSU was plus 17 points* UCLA was plus 10
pointsIf Utah wants to win next week we need to stop
"throwing" away the game.The good news, Utah's defense
is finally showing signs of it's old swagger. Hopefully they will continue
to improve.Bring on #5 Stanford! Go UTES!
christyEnjoy the couch potato bowl, at least BYU's 2013 Seniors
will be bowling again this year.
Blues,Well put. 2 things...UCLA is a couple of steps higher in the
rankings today, and, you're Ducks would be smart not to look past the
Utes.One more thing...The SEC has nothing on the PAC 12 this year. Cheers.
Just remember byu fans, however "bad" we are, you're worse! You
can't beat us! 2013 Seniors career SWEEP over Van Noy, Hoffman, and many
Yeah Blues, High School caliber teams like Georgia Tech, Boise State and Notre
Dame. It's good you'd rather lose seeing how you have no other
choice. Utah did beat BYU. They out played the Y, and the coaches at
utah out coached the Y. Any given Saturday, baby. On that Saturday, Utah
was the better team. At year end, the critics, commentators and other
coaches that "know", will have BYU ranked as the better team. BYU
will go bowling and ute fans will gloat, rightly so, that BYU has lost to utah
for 4 years in a row. Still, it will be nice to see our team in the post
season while ute fans set home and cheer for our opponent because once
again their team was the door mat of their conference.
I'm no Utah fan, but I have to speak up for the Utes today. Snap out of it,
Utah! You lost to a ranked team -- there is no shame in that. I'll be
surprised if UCLA doesn't drop significantly in the standings because of
how close you kept the game. And if UCLA doesn't slide, it is because
people are starting to recognize Utah.To the BYU fans: the real
difference between Utah and BYU is that they beat you. At home. Utah has a tough
rest of the season, and I would rather lose playing the elite teams that Utah
will face, than be undefeated playing against high-school caliber football teams
such as BYU. The funny thing about the PAC-12 is that all the teams, including
Utah, are good enough to earn a bowl spot. That's why we go to bowl games
so often.Now, how 'bout them Ducks!
Now BYU and Utah are both 3-2. The difference between them is that BYU will
finish 8-4 and Utah will finish 4-8. Its's great to be home for the
holidays every year watching better teams play bowl games. Happy Holidays
Uties, enjoy the extra time with family. Recruits are already running away,
they want to play for a winner that goes to bowl games every year. Utah will
not see another for at least a decade.
When will Utah win again? That is the question. I guess Colorado.
Yeah you can probably just keep recycling this pac 12 headline.Sorry
Chris B. I really should stop marking it down.I love
our Pac 12 membership.It is elite.Remember what it is
like to go bowling?