Comments about ‘Frustration growing for federal employees shut out of work’

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Published: Thursday, Oct. 3 2013 8:43 p.m. MDT

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DN Subscriber 2
SLC, UT

Despite what the government employee unions might claim, the only reason for the federal government to hire any worker or to keep them employed is to perform a vital service that taxpayers need to have performed.

I get the impression from the signs that these workers think they are just entitled to a job because they always had one. It's not a "jobs program."

That is a major part of the entire problem, to surface with the next crisis, our borrowing of about 30 cents of every dollar the federal government spends. We just have too many people doing too many jobs that are not truly essential. And we are bankrupt as a result.

We really need to cut the federal workforce by about 25% overall. Not uniformly across the board, but completely eliminate some functions, offices, agencies or departments, and cut a few to a smaller extent.

Those who disagree need to explain just how Congress can pay current salaries and still pay off the nearly $17 trillion we already owe. Or, do you just want to stick it all on your children's tab and let them worry about it?

Government employee unions should be outlawed as well.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

I agree w/D News Subscriber.

We need to get rid of all unions and regulations. If only we gave the rich more tax cuts while getting rid of all welfare, food stamps, and min wage, then everything would be better.

Californian#1@94131
San Francisco, CA

-- "... the only reason for the federal government to hire any worker or to keep them employed is to perform a vital service that taxpayers need to have performed." --

That's why we hire Presidents and members of Congress too. Not only are they not performing the vital service that we need to have performed, they are continuing to get their paychecks. And many of them are actually brazen and shameless enough to take the money.

Rational
Salt Lake City, UT

Great illustration of our bloated federal workforce.

Informed Voter
South Jordan, UT

Oh, how sad....let them go get a real job and find out how productivity is needed to hold a job in the real world. There are way too many federal,employees with fat salaries and huge benefits. We would do fine without 50% of them.

play by the rules
SOUTH JORDAN, UT

Love these comments. I was out of work for 4 months and you didn't see me standing outside of my dysfunctional Congressman's (Jim Matheson) demanding a job!

PG #1 FAN
Lindon, UT

Most Federal employees make less than $50,000 yr and most have college degrees. They are not overpaid. By shutting down the IRS the gov't is losing tons of revenue. Auditors routinely collect over $1,000 per each hour worked. For an office of 10 that is $80,000 a day, $400,000 a week, 1,600,000 a month. This shutdown is stopping the gov't from collecting back taxes in the millions everyday. Dumb move if you are looking for revenue.

Dadof5sons
Montesano, WA

Just a FYI when you find out that your job is labeled Non essential that means they really do not need you at all to make things run at the office. Only Non essential workers were laid off. the EPA 94% deemed non essential. so can we fire those and keep the 6% that make the place work? only 80% of Homeland security was deemed essential so we can let go of the 20% that are just collecting a free gov't check.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Who owns America? Who are the stockholders? Who has invested time and money in the American nation? Who has given their lives, their sons and daughters to protect and support America? Who has created the product of America?

If America was a corporation and the American people the stockholders, would we not have a right to a share of the profits? Would we allow a minority of the board to deny the benefits of the corporation because of primitive instincts?

Will we allow America to sink back into the mire of benefits only for the few?

Our government, the executive management of our nation, should be willing to share the profit and benefits of America with all Americans. If private enterprise fails to provide income to our people the government should hire every American and pay them a living wage.

Itsjstmeagain
Merritt Island, Fl

I'm afraid your view is wrong and straight from Faux News. Have you ever been inside to see what is done? Not likely. Every person is performing a job to accomplish something the Congress and Administration passed.
Personally, I hope all of the Service Support Contractors left the building first. Any contract that is a Option for FY14 should be terminated, due to a lack of funding. The Govt will be in default. Anyone check on the F-35 or some other weapon system that is unaffordable? Good time to cancel it now. There are a myriad of contracts for services for each department that is on Annual Appropriation. Kill them, send the contractors to the streets now. Otherwise the Contracting Officer may be guilty of misappropriation and Fraud.

coleman51
Orem, UT

In spite of what this article implies, there is really little concern from those outside of the employment of the Federal Government regarding this so-called government shutdown. It has almost zero impact on the lives of the vast majority of Americans. Further, most of the screaming comes from the government employee unions who likely voted Democratic in the last presidential election. Maybe they now get a small taste of their foolishness. This shutdown begins and ends with Barack Obama and the Senate Democrats under Harry Reid who refuse to even talk with House Republicans. What Obama and Reid want is for the House to fund all of Obamacare, even those changes (19 of them) that Obama has unilaterally and unconstitutionally changed since the original bill was passed. The Republicans have every right to question the law since it has changed so much. Harry Reid totally neglected his responsibility in refusing to pass funding of the government through the proper appropriations process. Now, Obama and Reid want it all funded in one massive bill without negotiation. Of course the Republicans and the American public should tell them no.

justamacguy
Manti, UT

If federal employees want my sympathy I wouldn't let the news media try to make an IRS employee their poster child. An out of work IRS agent is true justice. Keep them that way.

Brave Sir Robin
San Diego, CA

To all those "frustrated" federal employees: Welcome to our world. Welcome to the world of those of us in the private sector. Welcome to the insecurity of knowing that your job may come to an end any day without warning.

In the private sector, if our companies perform poorly, we get laid off. If our companies perform well, they get acquired by a behemoth and we get laid off. We all signed our death warrants the day we signed the acceptance sheet. Oh, and our employers don't have rules that we can only work a maximum of 40 hours a week, unlike yours. Plus we're expected to deliver results, and we can't blame bureaucracy for accomplishing nothing.

I would love to be federal employee except I can't stand bureaucrats. Other than that, you've got it way better than the private sector, even with your poor furlough (which, once the government reopens, means you'll get full retroactive pay, making this furlough essentially an unplanned paid vacation).

Woodswalker
Monroe, WA

the noted problems in the article do not address the Dem's absolute refusal to discuss ANYTHING except getting EVERYTHING they want...that is not working together...in fact, the Reps approved EVERYTHING that the Dems wanted, EXCEPT funding for Obummer Care... Apparently taht is not good enough for HArry Ried and the Dems. So lets talk about who is REALLY negotiating and who is not.

Aephelps14
San Luis Obispo, CA

It makes me sad to hear so many commenters telling these people that they are useless and to get over losing their jobs. I don't care who you are, it is just plain difficult to lose your income and to be told you are "non-essential".

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

Expected comments from the "I built it all by myself" crowd. Who walk on paths they created to hunt their own food and and exist on their own. Anarchy isn't all it's chalked up to by the yahoos on the radio.

I agree Aephelps14 they are a sweet ilk.

utahboni
Ogden, UT

Rob Bishop was one of the 80 congressmen who petitioned Boehner to demand that the government be shut down. Apparently he and most of the people who commented on this article are unaware that the financial backbone of Weber and Davis county are federal jobs.
If you own or work in a restaurant, tire store, grocery store or etc. who do you think your customers are? Do you really think it is not going to affect you? When the federal workers on your block start losing their houses to foreclosure, what do you think that will do to your property values? When those foreclosed houses are bought at auction by an absentee landlord and they are rented out to just any sketchy character that comes along, do you think your neighborhood will be a good place to raise children?

alurban2
Kent, WA

I don't know what the solution is but I find it unfair to stop federal employees from working. What about the private sector? People shouldn't be punished just because their employer is the Federal Government. Would pay be stopped if money came from lawmakers and their perks?

skeptic
Phoenix, AZ

Let them eat cake and drink Tea Party kool aid. Plutocracy is alive and well in America.

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