The Utes have a legit QB. His receivers did not help him and probably accounted
for 2/3rd's of the INT's in the game. But, if they can fix some of
that they'll win a big game or two down the road.
poymanLincoln City, OR@wacpaddleBe happy to review the
BYU 84' Schedule... It started out against the #3 team in the country on
their field (Pitt who was ranked just behind Auburn and Nebraska)... It ended
against the Team who was runner up to the National Champion the following year
(Michigan), and it was significant enough that the Cougs were voted National
Champs in all polls... (along the way BYU also clobered a Big 12 Team
(Baylor).________Pitt ended the season 3-7-1, nowhere to
be found in the polls. Baylor finished 5-6. Michigan was 6-6 when BYU played
them. Runner up the following year has nothing to do with 84'Please
stop spinning the fraud known as the 84" national title.
2BCSWINSWhere's Utah's National Championship trophy?
@Poyman...."I chuckle at the whole concept of continually waving the tired
motto of 2 BCS Victories"Off course you chuckle all the cougies
can do is quest for the perfection the utes have accomplished twice....LOL!! You
know you still where your quest T-shirtGive us a call poyman the
next time the cougies can actually beat the utes on the field where it matters.
@2bcswinsThis gets old but I have to post a correction to your
inaccurate post...The past 2 decades the utes are 8-3 the last 11
years and 5-5 against the Cougs the previous 10 years for a combined 2 decade
count of 13-8 (a winning percentage of 61.9%)... With full season win-loss
record comparisons against the Cougs the utes are 6-5 the past 11 years and 3-7
against Cougs the 10 years before that...( all in the same conference except for
the past 3 years and thus with similar schedules)... The previous
two decades however, show the utes are 2-18 against the Cougs (a winning
percentage of 10%)... The overall full season records for the previous 2 decades
show that the utes had better records only 2 of the 20 years... All
in all, hardly chest beating material for the utes... sorry.
I chuckle at the whole concept of continually waving the tired motto of 2 BCS
Victories... Or the big bad PAC Membership Insignia... But then that's all
the ute fans have isn't it??? I guess they really do need to wear it
proudly don't they?... I'm guessing that in 20 more years they will
still be using them... I do have to ask though, wouldn't it
look so much better if the motto or ID read something like
"84NationalChamps"... That would seem to be so much more impressive, but
then it wouldn't be the truth would it? That's okay though, their are
plenty of other comments on here that really aren't truthful so go ahead,
@wacpaddleBe happy to review the BYU 84' Schedule... It started
out against the #3 team in the country on their field (Pitt who was ranked just
behind Auburn and Nebraska)... It ended against the Team who was runner up to
the National Champion the following year (Michigan), and it was significant
enough that the Cougs were voted National Champs in all polls... (along the way
BYU also clobered a Big 12 Team (Baylor).As for match up
comparisons... let's talk about all the teams in the big bad PAC... In the
past 40 years (all the further I wanted to research) BYU is 2-2 with WSU; 4-3
with OSU; 0-2 with USC; 3-7 with UCLA; 4-3 UW; 3-1 UO; 4-4 UA; 4-6 ASU; 2-1 Cal;
0-2 Stanford; 26-16 utah; and 3-0 Colorado.... Utah is 3-3 with WSU;
3-3 OSU; 1-3 USC; 2-5 UCLA; 0-3 UW; 4-6 UO; 4-9 UA; 1-11 ASU; 3-2 Cal; 2-1
Stanford, and 1-1 Colorado... Against the PAC South the utes are a whopping 9-29
over the past 4 decades... OUCH!
CougarSunDevilPhoenix, AZSparkley BriefsI'm going
to enjoy never watching Utah go to another major bowl because now they have to
play real teams instead of who they played in 2008 to get to the Sugar.Michigan (3-9) No BowlUNLV (5-7) No BowlUtah State (3-9) No
BowlAir Force (8-5) Lost Bowl game against HoustonWeber State
(FCS)Oregon State (9-4) beat Pitt in Bowl GameWyoming (4-8) No
BowlColorado St (7-6) Beat Fresno State in Bowl GameNew Mexico (4-8)
No BowlTCU (11-2) Beat Boise State in Bowl GameSan Diego St. (2-10)
No bowl BYU (10-3) Lost to Arizona in Bowl Game.So, real
gauntlet to run to get to that BCS game. AS you know know, it's a little
different in the PAC-12._______Do you really wan to go
down this road? Look up BYUs 84' schedule in the mighty WAC.
Christine B. HedgefogSalt Lake City, UTStumper: "Utah has joined
a BIG 6 conference and is still a little over their heads, but is making
progress each year."More like a LOT over their heads.I guess I missed the part where botching a gift wrapped 1st season by losing
to Colorado and missing out on the privilege of getting pummeled in the
championship game by the north, to a losing season and no bowl, to another O-fer
start at home is progress. Please enlighten us.________Why is BYU afraid to play Colorado. I know, BYU is 3-8-1 all time against
Yes, you could say they came up short... Shorter than projections... They cover
the spread and that made my friends alot of money this week... Next week
they're betting the house that the utes again won't cover the
spread...My projections:Stanfor 49 utah 17 (32
points... ouch... lol)
@ducky..."While I really don't have any dislike for utah or its players
I really do enjoy seeing its "fans", people like yourself, have to
suffer through another loss. Although in all fairness you should be accustomed
to it by now as this is how it starts for utah every year in the pac12."I really do enjoy seeing "ducky" and Y "fans" have to
suffer through another loss to Utah. Although in all fairness you should be
accustomed to it by now as this is hows been pretty much for 2 straight decades
and overall in a landslide.....LOL!At cougiesundevil.....Again I ask
what's the cougies excuse for no BCS bowl game? Also please tell us the
last time ASU beat a team of that bama teams caliber? By the way nice showing
last night way to represent the PAC12 well against Notre Dame.
@cougiesundevil...."LOL 2 BCS wins. Any this decade? Since 2011? Who cares
what your team did last decade."Uh ok you're right we
haven't won one in the last two years. I would still say one 5 years ago
and one 9 years ago is better than 0 for the cougies and 0 for the sundevils."Im not bragging about ASU's Rose Bowl win2. We've
been in a power conference since well before the BCS era and played BCS
schedules, unlike Utah when they went. "You need to compare
Apples to Apples and quit spinning things to make yourself look good."Good excuse what's your excuse for the cougies??
@CougarSunDevil@uteologyBYU and TCU had just as weak
schedules, so you can throw those two teams out. So you beat Oregon state and
'Bama who didn't care because they weren't in the title game. So
you had to ramp up for two games. As you and the other uses like to point out,
PAC 12 play is a lot harder. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometime. Utah
just got lucky in 08 that six of the teams they played were in a down year.utah
is overrated, plain and simple.--------------The tired
old "Bama wasn't motivated" excuse. Good one! In 2008
Utah's SOS was #56... we finished 13-0.In 2012 ASU's SOS was
#52... you finished 8-5.I guess with such a weak schedule in 2012
ASU wasn't motivated to Quest for Perfection.Or could it be
that they lack talent?Current NFL rosters:19 Utah players14 ASU playersTry spinning that! Overrated?
Utah's been in the league 3 years, you've been there since the 70s.
What has ASU done?
Hey everyone,Let's stop bashing on the utes. They played a
great game against a really quality team. They have a tough schedule ahead of
them. Thanks to those contributing meaningfully.Go
@cougs n sundevilMaybe the refs can give you the game when you play
Utah, just like when you played Wisconsin. What a pathetic fan base. They all
run and hide when Utah beats their team then slowly creep out after Utah
loses to top ranked teams. Utah owns BYU and I love it!
@uteologyBYU and TCU had just as weak schedules, so you can throw
those two teams out. So you beat Oregon state and 'Bama who didn't
care because they weren't in the title game. So you had to ramp up for two
games. As you and the other uses like to point out, PAC 12 play is a lot harder.
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometime. Utah just got lucky in 08 that six
of the teams they played were in a down year.utah is overrated, plain and
CougSunnyD,So it's blah blah Utes this and that when the team
has been in the PAC for a couple years, mostly with a backup QB, while ASU has
been in the conference for 30+ years with a few great years and a basketful of
mediocrity. We'll get there a few times here and there too. Just cut the
crap about how superior your teams are because in reality, we're pretty
much all in the same boat competing with the established big boys.
@uteologyWhen is the last time utah beat a conference foe with a
@u90I've been around but keep pretending otherwise if it helps
assuage your pain. That said Texas is loaded with all the 4 and 5 star recruits
utah "fans" like yourself claim make a team great. They got pummeled by
a team with few of those recruits. Meanwhile utah coughed up 6 picks and lost at
home, again, and is winless in their conference, again, and won't be
winning any time soon. While I really don't have any dislike for utah or
its players I really do enjoy seeing its "fans", people like yourself,
have to suffer through another loss. Although in all fairness you should be
accustomed to it by now as this is how it starts for utah every year in the
CougarSunDevilPhoenix, AZSparkley BriefsI'm
going to enjoy never watching Utah go to another major bowl because now they
have to play real teams instead of who they played in 2008 to get to the
Sugar.--------------#7 TCU, #18 Oregon State, #25 BYU...
before the game.after the game... #6 Bama.When was the
last time ASU beat 4 ranked teams in the top 25 in one season?
it takes a utah loss to the #11 team in the country to bring duck and worf out
of hiding. duck, welcome back from your annual trip to tulsa. i
guess you haven't heard texas never was #15 quality
the U is close but can't seem to break through yet in the Pac12. Close to
beating Oregon St and UCLA but close doesn't count.
I'm not sure UCLA isn't highly overrated, the same way Texas was.
Which teams has UCLA defeated? Nevada, Nebraska, New Mexico State, and Utah. Now
the Nebraska win might be something, but who has Nebraska knocked off? Wyoming,
Southern Miss (and that seems not to be an abbreviation), and South Dakota
State. Meh. They haven't been tested, either.I think the next
two games might actually tell us something about how Utah will fare this year in
the PAC12 - UCLA game, not so much. I'd be nervous if I were a Ute.
Sparkley BriefsI'm going to enjoy never watching Utah go to
another major bowl because now they have to play real teams instead of who they
played in 2008 to get to the Sugar.Michigan (3-9) No BowlUNLV
(5-7) No BowlUtah State (3-9) No BowlAir Force (8-5) Lost Bowl game
against HoustonWeber State (FCS)Oregon State (9-4) beat Pitt in Bowl
GameWyoming (4-8) No BowlColorado St (7-6) Beat Fresno State in Bowl
GameNew Mexico (4-8) No BowlTCU (11-2) Beat Boise State in Bowl
GameSan Diego St. (2-10) No bowl BYU (10-3) Lost to Arizona in Bowl
Game.So, real gauntlet to run to get to that BCS game. AS you know
know, it's a little different in the PAC-12.
In regards to ASU's lack of post season play...1. I'm not
bragging about ASU's Rose Bowl win2. We've been in a power
conference since well before the BCS era and played BCS schedules, unlike Utah
when they went. You need to compare Apples to Apples and quit
spinning things to make yourself look good.
wow, is Chris B hurting. He's now heralding morale victories as some kind
of an accomplishment. That's an acknowledgement by him that he's
accepted Utah is the doormat of the Pac12 and fighting with their new rival
Colorado and Wazzu for scraps.Well, this shouldn't come as a
surprise to anyone. It's become a tradition now up on the hill. Go all out
and win a big emotional game with big brother and then immediately go into the
Post BYU Bowl swoon.It was apparent that UCLA took it easy to
conserve energy. Despite going from sea level to mile high and having to deal
with a snow storm, the Bruins weathered the weather and altitude and got a
comfortable win on the road. Lets see now, Stanford is next....hmmm
that will be ugly. When do you play Colorado? Seems a long way off. Hope you can
weather the storm.
CougarSunDevil,I enjoyed ASU's last major bowl win in '86.
We're almost up on that 30 year reunion in Tempe aren't we?
@ Chris B - Salt Lake City, UT - "Win tonight = Win Pac 12 SouthI'm calling it now:Utah 27UCLA 24Utah 1
turnoverUCLA 3 turnoversMark it Down"Chris, I
marked it down. It didn't happen.I don't hate
Utah football. Their arrogant fans who give BYU no respect and think that Utah
is the NCAA's best team? (just ask them).....eh, not so much.I
mean, I went to the UofU my freshman year. As a former Ute and someone who has
called the state of Utah 'home' for over 30 years, I'd LOVE to
cheer for Utah (in every game but one) but their arrogant fans make it hard to
do that. Chris B and others like would rather die than admit that the Y is a
solid team. 4 wins in a row? Yep, but most of them came down to the wire.Sorry, but I'm glad the U got beat.
@ UtesBy5:I like your statement about Utah being an extremely humble
PAC-12 conference member. Now if you could only convince some of your more
fellow radical Ute fan commenters about that, it would be much appreciated. More
things (on both sides of the isle) need to be in better context.I
give you credit for being one of the more realistic and pleasant Ute fans on
these boards. Keep up the good example for fans of all concerned schools.
@ Lionute:You asked, so I'll explain. Only 1 BYU fan (out of
thousands) replied to your statement last year. It was strictly his (or
her's) opinion and nothing else. That person wasn't speaking for the
general fan base. As such, please try to keep it in context and not get too
excited. And yes, you are right about your last statement... Utah
fans USUALLY are the ones with the hypocritcal statements. Good observation.
It was a good game. Tough loss for the Utes. Fight on! Ooops wrong school.
@CougarSunDevilCougar vs. Sun Devils, who do you cheer for?
I'm betting the Cougars.I was at the game last year when ASU
totally stomped the Utes. With the exception of your crazy student section,
your fans treated Utah fans with respect. The Utah fans treated the ASU fans
with respect as well.I'm thinking you are hiding behind ASU but
your hatred is coming from your love for BYU, right?The Utes
haven't proved anything yet in the PAC-12, just like ASU didn't prove
anything in the PAC-10 for their first few years in football and still
haven't in basketball. Utah is an extremely humble PAC-12 member to
date.To answer your question, no, Utah hasn't played in a BCS
game in either of the two post seasons of this decade, nor has ASU. Yes we did
play in and won two last decade including a Fiesta Bowl win in your stadium.I for one have a lot of respect for the ASU football program as well as
the BYU program. I think your should show a little more respect and class when
posting on a Utah vs. UCLA article.Go Utes!
2BCSWINS, Glad I could strike a nerve, come back at the end of the season,
when the dust settles and see how both teams fare for all the games after the
rivalry game. Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Boise St., are right up there with some of
the PAC 10.2 teams. BYU will have a bowl eligible season, u won't.
Can't recover from the win.
@ PAC12Ute4Life:Your statement about Ute fans not commenting on BYU
articles is the silliest and most untrue statement I've ever read on these
comment boards... and I've read a lot. On at least half of BYU articles,
Ute fans comment more than BYU fans do. Just a few days ago, Chris B had 4 of
the first 9 comments on a BYU article... quite typical. Sorry, but you lost all
credibility when you said that totally bogus statement. @
2BCSWINS:You are starting to sound a lot like another fellow
troll... Chris B.. Newsflash... The only team in this state that Utah owns
is Weber State. In 3 of the last 4 games with BYU, it went down to the last play
of the game in real dogfights and with BYU "owning" the offensive
statistics. BYU won 3 of the previous 4 games. As such, neither team owns the
other. It's a rivalry that continues to swing back and forth every few
years. And if you're too young to know that, then you should be commenting
about something else. Always coming back to that BYU thing is so old and worn
out that it now sounds pathic.
@Christine B. HedgefogFogger, come on, the clear indicator that Utah is
improving where BYU is not is your 0-4 record against them the last 4 games. How
many times has that happened previously. The Y program is dying and the Utes are
gonna be thriving.
@ 2BCSWINSLOL 2 BCS wins. Any this decade? Since 2011? Who cares
what your team did last decade. Your team has been subpar with only finding
quality wins against teams who were let down with what bowl game they were going
to. That's only if you went bowling, which last year you didn't and
this year you won't. Once again, Utah fans not showing proper respect for
their older and better PAC-12 brothers. You guys are a joke.
Samurai JakeI'm not a fair weather fan. I cheer for BYU and
refuse to treat them like you Ute fans do. They belong with the big boys and I
hope they get their break too. No blemish losing to a team who is only able to
get pumped for one game a year and then tank the rest. Considering Utah's
4-0 record over the last four years, and then considering their regular season
record...I'd have to say even a blind squirrel finds a nut, even if
it's in the same location every year.
Spokane Ute,Those exact same refs gave you the ending of the BYU
game. I'm not debating that the Wisconsin game was poorly handled. ASU
might have still lost, but the refs never let the Wisconsin kicker shank his
kick (as he had already done in some games). But when I look in the win/loss
column, I see a W against them. When I look in your PAC-12 Win/loss column, I
see 0-2. My credibility isn't gone, the PAC-12 refs credibility is gone.
Breaks happen for everyone...except the Utes in PAC-12 play. I'm not a
joke, the joke is Utah and their fans thinking they belong in the PAC-12. Keep
wishing. Maybe someday you'll garner a win against a winning PAC 12
@Christine B. Hedgefog "Bruinsby7 Your comment insinuated that
BYU fans were the only ones out of line. I replied "It certainly is no one
sided affair." You didn't respond to that comment. How convenient.
Those red goggles do that to some folks."Actually I did comment.
I clearly stated that I commented on the Austin Collie article with a positive
comment. I'm not obsessed with BYU so I don't usually read their
articles and with few exceptions, never comment on their articles. BTW, on my
BYU article comment yesterday, I commented negatively toward Chris B for his
obsession with BYU in addition to wishing Austin well with the New England
Patriots.I'm sure there are obnoxious Utah fans, I just
don't see the point of going to BYU articles and upset the true BYU fans.
What's your point of coming to Utah articles and only post negative
comments toward the Utes? Your name alone is disrespectful toward two obnoxious
Utah fans. Fight fire with fire or turn the other cheek? You do
realize your comments represent Brigham Young University to some readers, right?
@ Tators "Yes, and Texas hasn't had a Weber State in their schedule to
help pad their record and stats"True we did have weber and the
cougies to pad our record and stats@chritine hedgefog....2 last
decade still more than 0 for a team that is still questing for it....LOL!
The Utes played their guts out yesterday. The defense has grown a ton in recent
weeks. They left their heart on the field. This Ute team is young and
inexperienced. Wilson will have ups and downs. The loss of Kenneth Scott was
huge and not talked about much. Can you imagine Dres Anderson and Scott lining
up on opposite ends for Wilson to throw to?Losing to Oregon State in
OT when the ball goes right through Walker's hands was bitter. The defense
couldn't stop the Beavers at all that night. The offense was up and down
the field and put up 45 points in regulation. Then last night the defense was
spectacular while the offense and Wilson threw six picks. If both the offense
and defense are effective the same night, then Utah can beat anyone. Still, the
Utes are a year away. Wins and recruiting are always on the line though. Utah
has to regroup and not fizzle. The PAC 12 South title is gone but
big match ups and opportunity are there each week. I would be proud if the Utes
can go 7-5. A winning record and bowl game would be awesome.
@ducky...If you think Texas is a top 15 team it really shows us your football
knowledge. Even if they were not sure what that proves I know you were in Tulsa
again but the U beat the cougies on that same field you be the so called top 15
team...LOL!"Whatever the excuses are you and other utah
"fans" want to use the fact is that they lost, they threw 6
interceptions, they couldn't score on offense and they ultimately could not
stop UCLA when they needed to. Deal with it."Not sure why you
care about this whatever excuses you as a cougie "fan" want to make Utah
still owns the cougies 4 in a row, 9 of 12 overall domination...deal with it
Love how BYU fans come here. Why don't you stay on your own team's
articles? You don't see Utah fans posting on BYU articles.Utah
was robbed. They were clearly the better team last night. No matter, Utah
reminded the world yet again why they are a top school and a national brand. On
my last trip back east I ran into quite a bit of Ute fans. Utah pride runs
strong coast to coast. Oh, and Utah is still going to the Rose Bowl
this year - better buy your tickets now.Onward and Upward!
Ah, Duckhunter, me thinks you protest too much.
UteologyEast Salt Lake City, Utah@DuckhunterHey
that's a great point christina, some other team in Utah didn't go to
the wire this season against a top 15 ranked team.------------New Flash in Tulsa...Texas is not a top 15 team this
year.===No, but they were when they came into Provo, and BYU
ran for 550 yards and that game knocked them out of the standings.Had Utah blown out UCLA,same thing. Unfortunately Utah lost.Funny,
Utah took UCLA to the wire and only lost by 7, but Utah DOMINATED BYU by 7.Looking forward to all three local teams to have decent years, and all
three win their Bowl games.Hopefully after tonights game, we can all
become a bit more civil, and hope that the country sees that we have some solid
football being played here in Utah!
2bcswinslastdecade..... lol ...... I'll bet not ...... lol
@cougiesundevil...Come talk to us when the cougies or devils win a
BCS bowl game we have 2 already.@tators...."On the other hand,
the refs have been quite kind to Utah in a couple of their recent wins against
in-state teams, too. So try not to criticize Sundevil too loudly."The refs let the cougies back in the game against the utes a game the utes
dominated with 5 horrible calls in the 4th quarter....difference is we
don't make excuses or complain about it they were still good enough to
overcome the bad calls and win it!
@duck hunting 0-4 and loving it:The fact that you have more than one
post on this article is comical. Fret over YbU losing to the Aggies tonight, and
move along. You can't beat the Utes. Deal with it.
Please, would you BYU fans please explain this to me. Last year in a rare
comment I posted when the topic was schedule strength, I pointed out that Utah
played several more ranked teams than BYU. OSU,, USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona
St. Washington, and BYU were all ranked at some point and time during last
year. I was quickly told that anyone with any knowledge of football would never
make a claim that they played a ranked USC team and that the only ranking that
counted was the final ranking. Fast forward to this year and we are now
counting Texas as a ranked team, yes I know they were ranked, but now it counts.
Wow, and I thought Utah fans were the ones with hypocritical comments.
Even on game day vs USU the "fans" are over here hating on Utah.
Who's you're daddy?
Bruinsby7 Your comment insinuated that BYU fans were the only ones out of line.
I replied "It certainly is no one sided affair." You didn't respond
to that comment. How convenient. Those red goggles do that to some folks.
@kiboo..."Hope you slept well last night Chrissy. I know I did."Probaly as well as I slept on September 21st....lol
@2irrelevent "wins"Actually what is comical is that you get
so bothered by the comments of BYU fans. It just shows how much they matter to
you. It bothers you so much that replying to BYU fans in outrage and angst are
pretty much the only posts you ever make. Now that is comical.
@Christine B. Hedgefog "Bruinsby7, remove the red goggles and
join us in reality. Have you read any of the Ute comments towards BYU currently?
It certainly is no one sided affair. The difference is in the 80s when BYU
gloated they actually had hardware (individual and team) to back it up. Simple
conference affiliation hasn't carried you too far yet. When you're no
longer the doormat amongst your new friends be sure to let us know."Dear obsessed BYU fan, I won't have to let you know anything about
the University of Utah because apparently you will still be here watching every
game and commenting on every article.FYI, I don't usually
comment on BYU articles. I did comment on Austin Collie being picked up by the
Patriots. My comment was complimentary wishing him luck.Good luck
against the Aggies tonight.
"Hurrah, utefan can still beat the "well, we beat BYU" drum. Well
spun. Funny thing is, BYU seems to recover from the loss, but u can't
recover from the win. Nothing much matters after you win your "bowl"
game apparently."You would think you would be smart enough to
figure out thats because we move on to playing some of the best teams in the
country. The Y moves on to a win against middle nobody ever heard of tennesse.
But hey way to recover will see how well they recover against wisconsin, notre
dame and utah st.
@uteology"Texas is not a top 15 team this year."not anymore they aren't, BYU pounded them out of the rankings. utah
cannot make that same claim, they lost to the team they played, and threw 6
picks in the process. LOL@out of state utah "fan""we beat" is the relevant part of your sentence. In utah's case
it is "we lost" to the ranked team we played, and threw 6 picks in the
process. Big difference in results when these two teams played ranked teams,
huge difference actually. One blew the ranked team out and knocked them from the
rankings, one choked up 6 interceptions and is claiming a "moral"
@ StrikerIt is easy to make a post since the DN doesn't care if
your comments are in any way based on facts as long as you follow the rules. So
tell me, how did we treat UCLA like we were playing New Mexico? UCLA is faster
and has more talent than Utah, yet it was a 4 point game at the half and a 7
point game (we had the ball deep in their territory) with under a minute to go.
I think a reasonable person would say that Utah's coaches did an
outstanding job keeping this game close.I can't wait to see
what you post after your team gets throttled in Madison and South Bend. Might
even happen tonight in Logan.
@worfworf Mcallen, TXActually, some ute fans
pay BYU a big compliment. By squeeking out a close win, which could have gone
either way,--they feel as if the Rose Bowl is in sight."Maybe
Chris B but no other Utah fan is thinking Rose Bowl this year. The Utes are
competing better in the PAC-12 with improved recruiting classes which add badly
needed speed, size and depth. I hope the Utes can get six or seven wins this
year and get back to a bowl game but I certainly don't think the Utes are a
Rose Bowl caliber team yet.The PAC-12 is a very strong conference
this year. Utah lost to a very good UCLA team last night. I think our defense
is improving but we have some weaknesses to fix on both sides of the ball.Good luck tonight against the Aggies.
@striker..."They are so obsessed with beating BYU (and they barely do when
they focus for months on it as usual) that they can't beat any good team in
their conference. Shallow, shallow program. They need to get a clue."Really? KVN and Hoffman didn't go pro because all they were focused
on was the Utah game. KVN said several times it was the superbowl. I can post
several quotes from cougie coaches and players saying just how much the Utah
game meant and how much they were putting their focus on it. They scheduled a
bye prior only to give more focus and time to prepare. Only problem
with all the focus they put on the game their still not good enough to beat the
utes. Please direct me to one quote from anybody on the utes that said that game
was the superowl? At least some Y fans have common sense and realize
right now Utah is the better team. For the rest of you it's commical that
you jump on other teams bandwagon's for what the Y can't
@ Pride:Yes, and Texas hasn't had a Weber State in their
schedule to help pad their record and stats. Utah's only other wins were
dogfights to the wire that could've gone either way (since Utah had less
offensive yardage and first downs in each those). I knew you would try to spin
it otherwise, but the simple fact is that Texas leads their conference and Utah
is at the bottom of theirs. Absolute facts. Live with it.@ Clark
Griswalt:Open your eyes! The last 3 wins Utah has had against BYU
and USU have been total dogfights that went to the wire in each game. In fact,
Utah had less yardage and time of possession in each of those wins. As such,
they were games that very easily could've gone either way.As
such, Utah doesn't "own" anyone... with the possible exception of
Weber. Oh, and don't forget they also "own" the rights to the title
of perennial conference cellar dweller contender. When and if they ever change
that, I will happy to give more respect. But they have to earn it first.
To the true U fans, what a great defense you have. So impressed with Wilson.
Four of those INT's were not his fault. The fight was strong even with all
the adversity. Tough loss under tough conditions.To Chris B, you
told us all to "mark it down". Just like in Bball, you were wrong
again. Oh well, we'll see how well you do in the Rose Bowl. Hopefully, the
INT bug doesn't bite you in that game too.
Stumper: "Utah has joined a BIG 6 conference and is still a little over
their heads, but is making progress each year."More like a LOT
over their heads.I guess I missed the part where botching a gift
wrapped 1st season by losing to Colorado and missing out on the privilege of
getting pummeled in the championship game by the north, to a losing season and
no bowl, to another O-fer start at home is progress. Please enlighten us.
Bruinsby7, remove the red goggles and join us in reality. Have you read any of
the Ute comments towards BYU currently? It certainly is no one sided affair.
The difference is in the 80s when BYU gloated they actually had hardware
(individual and team) to back it up. Simple conference affiliation hasn't
carried you too far yet. When you're no longer the doormat amongst your
new friends be sure to let us know.
Actually, some ute fans pay BYU a big compliment.By squeeking out a
close win, which could have gone either way,--they feel as if the Rose Bowl is
It's interesting that the majority of the comments on this University of
Utah article are coming from giddy BYU fans. I do appreciate the two or three
classy BYU fan's comments, the ones that truly do cheer for the instate
schools when they aren't playing BYU.What is most interesting
to me is the situation created by two rivals going different directions. The
Utah/BYU game is now much more important to BYU because all games must be won to
qualify for a BCS bowl game. On the other hand, while important to Utah to win
(state bragging rights, bowl qualification), the game isn't as important as
their nine conference games. The intelligent fans realize this.I'm reminded of the 70s and 80s when BYU beat Utah on a regular basis.
Utah fans, some jealous of BYU's success and tired of some BYU fan
arrogance, cheered for BYU's opponents.The roles have reversed
and we now see BYU fans behaving the same way as Utah fans did in the 70s and
80s. Utah invited to the PAC-12, winners of two BCS games and 14-7 against BYU
over the last 21 years.Obsession? Shadowed? Pathetic?
@DuckhunterHey that's a great point christina, some other team
in Utah didn't go to the wire this season against a top 15 ranked team.------------New Flash in Tulsa...Texas is not a
top 15 team this year.
Tough game last night. UCLA is a great team - classy team with a classy head
coach.UTAH D kept us in it.Tators- that pendulum is swinging
your way tonight.Duckhunter - it's a low point when you resort to
playing the 'We beat the Longhorns" card.Funny that the BYU
trolls even comment. Especially with a QB that does not throw a passing TD in
all of Sept.I guess it makes you feel better. Come calling when your team
is competitive again.
@TatorsHaha really? Their one other loss came against the only real team
they've played, who destroyed them. And they needed extra help last night
to beat a bad Iowa St. team. That screams for respect. And yeah they're in
first place right now, because they've played 2 teams that are in last
place in their conference! Baylor, Texas Tech, and Oklahoma have yet to lose at
ALL, so maybe start chiming in about how good Texas is after they play them. I
just don't understand why Mack Brown is getting asked about his job
everyday if they aren't a bad team. And I never said anything
about Utah winning the PAC12, I just said they're competing with young
players. We are now finally getting to see some of the PAC12 recruits Utah has
picked up since the move starting to take the field. Finally Utah isn't
trying to compete with MWC recruits, so all I'm saying is their in great
shape moving forward.
@samurai joke"You know little about football.... TW is not
entirely to blame, either. The first four were tipped or on the receivers, the
last two were his."Uh, the guy is 6'7" tall, he should
NEVER have a pass tipped at the line, ever. He has a funky side arm delivery and
horrible mechanics and that is why his passes were tipped at the line, yes those
are HIS fault. He had two bounce off of wr's hands, so is it that the
wr's can't catch or that wilson threw the ball with no touch? Either
way it is poor play in the passing game, you can throw the line can't block
in there as another reason as well.Whatever the excuses are you and
other utah "fans" want to use the fact is that they lost, they threw 6
interceptions, they couldn't score on offense and they ultimately could not
stop UCLA when they needed to. Deal with it.
@any YbU poster attempting to lay it on thick:0-4. Shhhhh! You have
no leg to stand on with your attempted smack talk. Beat the U first, then start
flapping your gums. Until then, focus on trying to beat the Aggies in Logan, not
on a PAC 12 conference game you'll never be a part of.Go Utes!
Well another PAC-12 season and another first few games full of turnovers.Utah is now minus 8 in turnovers but minus 10 in points. In those games
so far I see a huge improvement from the previous 2 seasons, as far as being
able to compete even with so many turnovers. In the OSU game it was
the offense that kept is in the game. In the UCLA game it was the defense. The
good thing is the team didn't quit in either game.Now I am
hoping both offense and defense show up for #5 Stanford next week. That might
still not be enough, but we need both to perform before we hit the difficult
PAC-12 road schedule.Go UTES!!
@ Tators"By the way, where is Utah standing in their "power
conference" standings? Pretty hard to put a spin on that one"You do realize that you lost to Utah, right? Regardless of where we're
ranked in our power conference standings. We still OWN BYU on the field! That
you cannot spin!
@CougarSunDevil:Seriously consider changing your handle to Sun
Devil. The 0-4 part of your name puts a blemish on your PAC 12 Devils!
@tanmanAnother whiney post but another whiney utah "fan".
The fact is wilson did throw 6 picks, that is awful. Deal with it, he did it.
I enjoy reading the comments between the BYU and Utah fans. BYU's arrogance
has got in their way of realizing what is actually happening. We have 2 teams
going in opposite directions. Utah has joined a BIG 6 conference and is still a
little over their heads, but is making progress each year. They are closing the
gap between them and the rest of the PAC 12 little by little. BYU on the other
hand, is continuing their slow but sure death spiral to mediocrity. Two years
when they play again, I am betting Utah humiliates the Cougars. But I am sure
Bronco will have a long winded, very eloquent excuse for why that is happening.
Way to go Utes, keep closing the gap, you are doing the right thing. BYU....not
so much, some thing has to change for you to regain the relevance you had 30
@ Pride:Texas is not a bad team... except to those who wear dark
crimson colored glasses and who see everything with a strong bias. Texas
currently has only 1 other loss besides the one to BYU, currently owns a record
equal to Utah's, and unlike Utah, they are currently leading their
conference after another win last night.By the way, where is Utah
standing in their "power conference" standings? Pretty hard to put a
spin on that one.
@cougs & dawgs:Leave Chris B alone. He claims to be a part of
the Utes, just like you claim to be a part of the Cougs and Dawgs. That's
what fans do. Turn the page.@any and all YbU fans claiming Kyle
needs to focus his energy on beating his own conference opponents:You know little about football. Coach Whit had his team in a position to win.
It's not his fault the Utes gift-wrapped 6 interceptions. TW is not
entirely to blame, either. The first four were tipped or on the receivers, the
last two were his.You all need to focus your energy on actually
beating the U, and keep hoping and praying for a conference invite. Go Utes!
The most ironic thing of all is when Utah fans complain about Cougar fans having
their fun toward a Utah loss after they do exactly the same, or even more,
whenever BYU plays. When BYU suffers a close loss (the only kind
they've had this year) Utah commenters lay it on thick and heavy...
especially a few of your most notorious fans. And even when BYU wins, a lot of
Utah fans usually come up with this "they were an overrated team"... or
some such thing. But seldom any credit.Please realize, Ute
commenters, that the pendulum always swings both ways.
I'm not ever going to blame refs on a game.
@christina"Taking an undefeated 12 ranked team to the wire in a
huge home conference game is something other Utah teams can only dream
about."Hey that's a great point christina, some other team
in Utah didn't go to the wire this season against a top 15 ranked team,
they'd already pounded that top 15 ranked team into submission long before
"the wire" was even an issue. It would seem to me that beating top 15
ranked teams at all, let alone in blowouts, is something "Other Utah teams
can only dream about". LOL!
@RenoThey didn't score on those 6 picks because we have a good
defense? That was a pretty weak post. Defense did their job. I was impressed.
Good one BleedCrimson. Deflect your 0-2 predicament back to your state
championship certificate. That'll carry you through the rest of your
@ Spokane Ute:On the other hand, the refs have been quite kind to
Utah in a couple of their recent wins against in-state teams, too. So try not to
criticize Sundevil too loudly.
These Utah fans make me chuckle though, Utah has yet to beat a PAC-12 team (with
a winning record), and I wouldn't be surprised if they miss out on a bowl
game this year as well. Their schedule is a lot harder going forward than the
0-2 so far, but from what they've shown this year (all at home), I'd
say there is nothing to brag about.Ya, that works both directions.
TanMan_101West Jordan, UTTake away turnovers, utah BLOWS them
out. I'm not going to use the "UCLA didn't win that game, Utah
lost that game" like so many cougar fans do.TanMan_101West
Jordan, UT@Veritas AequitasI'm not using it as an
excuse...===You did. Own up to it. Especially after using it
to slam BYU.How many Utah fans have blamed the refs?You
guys really can't have it both ways...
Seriously cougar fans! You guys have no room to talk smack and belittle our
team. Utah OWNS you on the field 4 years running, 9 of the last 12, and 57-34-4
overall. Scoreboard cougies!
Take heart, Utes! After watching the game last night, this Cougar fan is not
worried at all about Stanford coming to town, or any of your other opponents
beside the Ducks. You have all the pieces you need to win and pull out upsets.
You just need to cut down on the turn overs. That's what killed you last
night. So I hope you do well the rest of your schedule. I certainly don't
want to hear we lost to a Pac 12 cellar dweller. That would be more hurtful to
me than your fans belittling and badmouthing us.Go Cougars! Go
Utes! Go Aggies too after tomorrow!
So here's what I've seen, Utah plays pretty well against good teams.
Just like against Oregon St, turnovers gave a game away they would have won
handedly, but a loss is a loss. I still think they can make a bowl game this
year, but what I find most intriguing about them is how young they are. I think
these next two years are going to be where we can gauge really how good they
will be in the PAC12. These BYU fans make me chuckle though, BYU has yet
to beat a respectable team (and Texas is terrible so don't try and use that
one), and I wouldn't be surprised if they miss out on a bowl game this year
as well. Their schedule is a lot softer than previously portrayed, but from what
they've shown this year, I'd say there is nothing to brag about.
Good one PACBasement'sOurSchedule. You forgot to mention 0-2 in the PAC,
both at home. Or, that you're the only team in America who has played 5
games and not a single one further away than a 10 minute bus ride to Provo. Let
us know how you do when you actually have to play a road game.And
speaking of bowl contracts you belong to the conference that pretty much
guarantees a bowl of some sort to any team with a pulse. How did that work out
for you last year? The outlook for this year is not pretty either.
The BYU vs USU game is not on ESPN?Looks like Nevada vs San Diego State
gets preference. LOL!Looks like the Mighty Independent Conference is
down this year.Navy 2-1Notre Dame
3-2Old Dominion 3-2BYU 3-2Army
2-3Idaho 1-4New Mexico St. 0-5The band of buddies is having trouble holding their own. Come on BYU, Idaho
& New Mexico St., Show some pride. Thank goodness BYU signed a bowl
I just got an advance copy of the new SAT test. Here's a sample
question:Utah is to the PAC12 as Kentucky is to _______________?Answer: The SECExtra credit if you answered SEC "Cellar
@sundevilConsidering the refs gave u the game against Wisconsin,
your credibility goes right down the drain, what a joke.
@ChristopherB. "Couldn't be more proud of our team, coaches, and
conference."Somehow if the utes had won this I'm fairly
certain you could find it in you to be even more proud, and crowing even more
stridently today; even to the point of you going over to Alabama forums to talk
some trash.One of the other ute faithful previously posed a
question, complaining about the inconsistent officiating, and openly asked if it
would ever be possible to play a game where it gets called evenly? BYU and
every other OOC team asks that same question every time they play a PAC12 team
and are forced to submit to PAC12 officials. The answer is always a resounding
"no". The PAC12 official's credo is-- First protect
conference teams, second: if both teams are conference teams then protect the
team that can go the farthest into the NCAA and make the most money and prestige
for the conference.It is nice that the utes hung in there to the
end. But, when all is settled, there is a lot of parity between the U, USU, BYU,
and the bottom half of the PAC12.
Tanman_101We BYU fans can say the exact same about the BYU/Utah game with
the margin of victory the same!!! Following your own logic if UCLA had scored a
touchdown after each of the 6 int's they would have blown out the Utes!!!
Tough loss but at least you have the Championship of the State of Utah to hang
your hat on and crow about!!! What is the trophy for that by the way? No out of
state or conference wins must really hurt!!! Please tell us how many SEC teams
the PAC12 has played and beaten this year to claim the right as second best
conference in college football?Go BYU beat the Aggies!!!
@Veritas AequitasI'm not using it as an excuse, we lost, we
made mistakes, we didn't play as well as we needed to to get the win. At
Utah we accept when we lose a game instead of blaming everything under the sun,
but our own poor play. Our receivers were awful at times. They need to be
AlteregoHarrisville, UTUtah will still go to the rose bowl.Yeah, only if they can get tickets and charter a bus.....
"Pick 6" - a whole new meaning!
Gotta love the PAC homer announcers trying to convince fans that somehow Utah is
an elite conference team. Especially comical was when Petros pointed out that
the fans were coming back through the portals to see the ending after having
left. Uh, get back to us on that Petros when the Utes accomplish anything in the
PAC outside of gymnastics.PAC officiating is flat out embarrassing.
@caleb in new yorkGlen Cove, NYas close as Utah is to being 5-0,
I'm predicting they get 3 more wins the rest of the way and make it into a
bowl game as a 6-6 team. They could beat Arizona, USC, Wash St., and Colorado
without even needing to pull off an upset. If they lose to two of those teams,
its a minor possibility they beat one of ASU, Stanford, and Oregon.They are just as close to being 1-4. Bad play calling by Utah State and the
phantom holding call on Hines kickoff return are all that separates the Uties
from a 1-4 record right now. As for next week, the Utes get curb stomped by
Stanford. Finish the season 4-8 and have a great seat to watch all the winning
teams play their bowl games, on their couches at home. At least they will have
plenty of time to study for finals.
I see a lot of predictions on here as to how the U will do the rest of the year,
so here are my predictions (L=loss for Utah, W=win for Utah):Stanford L@ Arizona L (but could go the other way)@ USC L (I think
the new coaches will change this team)Arizona St L@ Oregon L@
Wash St LColorado WSo I have the U winning one game the rest
of the year with the possibility of 2. I just don't see them doing
anything better. The PAC is a difficult conference this year and road wins are
nearly impossible. So, that leaves home games where they might have a chance
but with Stanford and ASU coming to SLC, I don't Utah wins.
Brave Sir Robin,What about to your fellow PAC 12 South members? No
respect again. Utah fans think they are entitled to be in the PAC-12. They show
little if any respect to fans of the other teams and their fans. Scoreboard to
the BYU fans? You realize that eight other schools from last year can say the
same to you, right? I know my Devils can. Remember last year? 37-7...SCOREBOARD.
I confess, I had to look the score up, unlike Ute fans who memorize the BYU
scores. I had to look it up because ASU goes into those games expecting to
win...because Utah isn't a rival, or even an equal. They are a carpet, a
rug, a doormat. Nothing else. I guess I should change my handle to "Utah
padding our Schedule" because that's all your games are doing for us.
Maybe the MWC will take you back. You should check into it.
2 losses at home nuff said
It's so interesting that Chris B still won't admit he's wrong
whenever he is... which has been quite often this seaason. He has a very
selective memory when bragging about his few right predictions, and then seldom
admits his miscues by trying to put a different spin on things whevener they
happen. But the fact is, Chris, Utah just isn't one of the
power teams in your power conference, having already lost to 7 different teams
in it... and still no wins against winning-record conference teams. So just keep
take pride in the fact that Utah is still a member (although a losing one).That being said, my prediction is that Utah will soon be 0-3 against
conference teams by the end of next Saturday. If they couldn't beat OSU or
UCLA at home, there ain't no way they are going to beat Stanford.
Utes fans blasting and putting blame squarely on the shoulders of Taysom Hill
for being a pathetic QB, but now all we here after 6 picks!!!!! oh don't
blame Wilson its not all his fault. I'm so glad to see UCLA win, the Utes
are Pac bottom dwellers and will always be.
TanMan_101West Jordan, UTTake away turnovers, utah BLOWS them
out. I'm not going to use the "UCLA didn't win that game, Utah
lost that game" like so many cougar fans do. We dropped passes, so we
weren't prepared enough, I'm just saying that we had plenty of chances
to win.===You say your are not going to make the excuse, and
then you do. You can't have it both ways?
@ChrisB - sounds like Wilson needs some pointers from Taysom Hill about how to
NOT throw an interception!
Back at you Bruin. Good win and good luck the rest of the way!
Utah needed an interception on fourth down to beat BYU, an onside kick to beat
USU, and another to be in the game against UCLA. #12 UCLA needed an
interception on fourth down to beat Utah.BYU put 550 yards on then #
15 Texas. The most yards ever.My point is that we have three great
Universities in Northern Utah. Very few time in the past half century have we
had so much great football played across the board.Time to quit
sniping and enjoy some great football.After tonight, I hope all
three teams play well, stay healthy, and win their Bowl games!
Exciting game--tough loss. That Utah was even in a position to tie the game at
the end was remarkable given all the turnovers; the coaching move to kick the
field goal on fourth down and bet everything on recovering an onside kick was
gutsy and brilliant. I don't see Utah beating Stanford, ASU, or Oregon,
but they can beat UA, USC, WSU, and Colorado and get into a bowl game.
@SpokaneUteYou are right my prediction was a bit (way) off. I am a
UCLA fan, I have to think my team is that much superior. To be honest, the
reason for my 45-17 prediction was because of Utah's play against BYU, that
was all. I actually thought Utah would beat BYU worse than they did. But again
that is a rivalry game and they can get tough. That was my bad on both
accounts.But, if Utah plays the way they did the rest of the season,
some teams better watch out. Stanford has what I think is a tough game against
Washington this week. It sets them up for a potential let down game coming into
Rice Eccles the following week. I still like Stanford, but your Utes impressed
me last night. Especially the defense, they are for real. My hat is off to the
Utes, they are tough. Thanks for allowing me to be part of the
banter this week fellas. And for most Utah fans, thanks for keeping it cordial.
Again, my hat is off to the Utes, good luck the rest of the way.As
always for me, GO BRUINS!
To my fellow Utah fans: I'm tired of reading talk about good efforts, close
games, and moral victories. There are no moral victories. Winning is winning
and losing is losing. Doesn't matter if you lost by an inch or a mile.
UCLA was the better team - they beat us on the lines and won the turnover
battle.To the BYU fans: Scoreboard. You just got owned by Utah for
the 4th year in a row - you have no room to talk about anything. Tonight
you're going to cement your status as the 3rd best team in Utah. So before
you post, remember this word: Scoreboard. Nothing you post about Utah doing
poorly in the PAC12 means anything because no matter how bad you try to make
Utah look, the scoreboard makes BYU look worse.
Saying that utah can't focus after the game against BYU and doesn't
care the rest of the way: BYU played the mighty Blue Tulips if Mid Ten State,
while Utah played top 10 ranked UCLA. Little difference in the skill level. Ucla
is very good, take away turnovers, utah BLOWS them out. I'm not going to
use the "UCLA didn't win that game, Utah lost that game" like so
many cougar fans do. We dropped passes, so we weren't prepared enough,
I'm just saying that we had plenty of chances to win.
This is exactly what astute fans said would happen to Utah when they joined the
Pac12 four or more years ago. Yet Utah fans continued to rub it in the faces of
BYU and USU fans by touting PAC12 membership, predicting Rose Bowl appearances,
Southern Division championships, and generally degrading everyone in the state
who is not a Utah fan.I am nor every will be a Utah fan and if you
ask me, the arrogance displayed by most Utah fans is being duly repaid by the
beating they are taking on the field as they continue their role as door mat of
the PAC11+u.Hope you slept well last night Chrissy. I know I did.
Bet your proud of your Pac 12 membership, and being in the second best
conference in the country, and the bottom feeder of that conference, you get to
compete with Washington State and Colorado. Whats the point of being in the
conference and bragging about it, if you can't win in it?
Good effort but the Utes come up short. Tough to win with 6 turnovers.Utes need another win - Where's BYU on the schedule when you need them?
If you count the 6 passes Wilson completed to the UCLA defense, his passing
percent climbs to 65%--not bad for an up-an-coming PAC12 star;
I don't go to many Ute home games but for it being a blackout vs the #12
team in the country and to have that crowd be SO quiet and lame is embarrassing.
It took a pick 6 to finally get some noise going. And so many empty seats as
well. Pathetic fan base based on my outside observation. Maybe stanford will
sell out RES but doubt it. Probably need 'bama to come in for that to
Moral victories: 2Actual conference home victories: O-ferThank
goodness for the moral victories. Without them we'd be off to yet another
rocky conference season as we settle in to our customary, designated spot at the
It's a good thing the Utes aren't playing the Y for awhile. They can
now focus some of that energy into winning some PAC 12 games instead of
energizing too much to beat the "school down south".
@DeamonYou can't put all those picks on Wilson. At least 4 of
the 6 were tipped by Utah's receiver or tight end. Catch the dang ball!
That killed Utah last night.
as close as Utah is to being 5-0, I'm predicting they get 3 more wins the
rest of the way and make it into a bowl game as a 6-6 team. They could beat
Arizona, USC, Wash St., and Colorado without even needing to pull off an upset.
If they lose to two of those teams, its a minor possibility they beat one of
ASU, Stanford, and Oregon.
Well said Mark D"As an ASU Alum, I am usually entertained by
your diatribes of how the Utes are "this" and "that" - but I
have yet to see any substance from your Utes in the PAC to back it up... Sure,
you can beat teams from the State of Utah (most years - the Aggies dropped you
last year...), but when it comes to teams from the PAC, you seem to be coming up
short.Smack your lips all you want when it comes to beating the boyz
from Provo, but at least keep it real when it comes to teams from the PAC -
you're "0 for" when it comes to games against my Sun Devil's
since joining the PAC. This "at least we played hard" stuff doesn't
cut it when that's exactly what you're mocking with your brethren down
in happy valley...Start actually winning some games in the PAC for a
change, instead of merely "looking good" and then maybe those of us from
the PAC-10 will begin to give any credibility to the thought that you actually
belong in this league..."
Chris B's Post Season Song."I'll be home for
Christmas, you can count on me".
@EkuteI hope you are right Bro. It's gonna come down to how
Utah does against the Arizona schools. A big win would be nice, and it almost
happened last night. I think Utah can beat anyone in the PAC 12 outside of
Oregon and Stanford. Now it's time to prove it. Take care Guy!
@UtahBruinGood Game. UCLA was the better team. They won fair and
square. These moral victories by Utah are getting hard to swallow. They can play
with most everyone, but beating most everyone is a different story. I must call
you out on your prediction though. I told you that there was no way UCLA would
blow Utah out, the Vegas line was spot on. Good Luck the rest of the way!
Winnable game for the Utes and I'm sorry they couldn't pull it off,
but don't go claiming you have a better QB than Chuckie anymore. 6 picks
in a big game is ridiculous.
The bowl just flushed
Chris B.Sing it with me:I'll be home for
ChristmasYou can count on mePlease have snow, and mistletoeand
my Pac 12 Membership under the tree.Mark it Down
Amen Mark DI love how Chris B's attempt to vindicate
Utah's relevance is by bashing BYU. The fact is that the Utes are the
basement dwellers of the PAC. Nobody outside the great state of Utah cares that
u beat BYU. Sure they are always fun games but face it, you need to stop flappin
your jaw until you beat someone who actually matters. Lets review
the last 2 years: UCLA - Loss (twice)Oregon St - Loss
(twice)Arizona - LossWashington - LossWashington St - LossCal - win (whoooooohoooo)USC - LossArizona St - LossUtah
State - LossNow I'll list the wins that
matter..........................N. Colorado. Its been marked down.
Utah always burns up all their energy for the season in just one game, versus
BYU. Every year, after the Utes play BYU, they seem "spent" of all their
energy for the rest of the season. And when they go up against a conference full
of blue chip athletes, as in the PAC12, on a weekly basis, well, there you have
The Utes showed that they belong. I still think they will get at least 1
signature win this year and qualify for a bowl.No excuses. Credit
the UCLA defense...tipped balls are defensive plays. Credit Hundley.byu "fans".Thanks for supporting the PAC 12, wish you we're
We would of won Ucla but the refs let them foul our hiesman quarterback all
@Th: "BYU can't beat Utah so naturally the next best thing to do
for BYU fans is to bag on them when they lose. "I see mostly
class from the BYU crowd on these threads yesterday and today, giving the Utes
props for a hard-fought game. We never see that from Ute fans on the Cougar
side. Why is that?
Congratulations to UCLA for the hard fought win Thursday night. The final score
did not turn out the way I hoped but the game was extremely entertaining. I
loved the effort for the Utes but sometimes the execution was not there. Still,
in the final seconds of the game you had a chance to tie it up. That means you
competed. Good things are on the horizon. Keep fighting.Go Utes!
Great game to watch but in the end a lot of sad Ute fans today I am sure.To let a critical game slip out of their hands with 6 interceptions was
unbelievable.Utes beat themselves on this one.I was
quite surprised by the defense holding UCLA so well but the inability to catch a
ball on the critical plays was just too much.I'm just waiting
for the first excuse about the weather. It's coming, I know it's out
there somewhere!So looking forward...StanfordArizonaUSCASUOregonWashington StColoradoWow, last night could be the beginning of a 6 game losing streak.I'm not sure if there's 3 wins in the remaining schedule.
It' going to be a nail biter for that lesser WAC or McWCish bowl.
Hurrah, utefan can still beat the "well, we beat BYU" drum. Well spun.
Funny thing is, BYU seems to recover from the loss, but u can't recover
from the win. Nothing much matters after you win your "bowl" game
My hats off to the UTES. That was one heck of a game. There is no quit in this
team and the rest of the Pac12 is on notice. Stanford is in for a rude awakening
next week. Bruin nation is behind you the rest of the way. GO UTES!
Can we stop worrying about out of state, rose bowls, and south
championships,.....and worry about an offense that got shut out in the 2nd half
What a great game! Two good teams battling it out on the field and
the most enjoyable part was that I didn't see one receiver after missing
his pass jump up stretch his arms out look at the refs and do the flag pull
motion, and there was zero cheating antics like holding onto the defense
secondary as you flop to the ground trying your thespian talents to draw the
PI.Refreshing to see two great teams battle it out straight up.Good job Utes!Satake, great D calling!
Hadley, "WE".....really? I am pretty sure you have no say
in who any conference invites. As much as many Aggie, Ute and byu fans want to
think their team is by far the best in the state, the fact remains that all 3
are very close this year as well as last. Being in the PAC 12 hasn't made
the Utes pull away from the in state teams talent wise as some thought they
might. In fact the Aggies are closer now than anytime since the
60's-70's and their program is only going to get better. GO
is RES now known as "Pick City"?Chris, Stang? Comments?Actually utah played better than I thought they would, but 0-2 in the
pac is still 0-2.
As Coug fan I can admit that BYU would not be doing much better than Utah in the
PAC, especially this year. The PAC has some really great teams this year.The fact that Utah is taking it to the end means that they are close to
turning the corner, just like BYU is.Good luck to Utah the rest of
their schedule.to Where is Hadley? I do believe that we would have
no problem handling CU.
Great game to watch; the Utes fought hard, but moral victories aren't going
to be quite enough to compete in the PAC-12...and they may not be enough for
Whittingham to keep his job if they miss a bowl again this year.As
for the "At least we beat YOU (i.e. BYU)" rhetoric, whatever let's
you sleep at night, chrissy...and I thought you didn't CARE if U played BYU
though...hmm... Seems those wins against your instate foes are the ONLY things
you can really brag about these days...I guess you still can't quite forget
them "WAC" and BYU teams as easily as you claim.
On a positive note Utah regained the rice Eccles stadium interception record
previously held by BYU since 2008.
Hey ChrisWe're ALL loving your Pac-12 membership! LOLSo is the
Pac! LOLThey enjoy the sure win whether at home or in your house! LOLHave you beaten a fellow member with a winning record yet? LOLLOL LOL
LOLManiacal laughter!How many picks did your QB throw last night?
LOLHow many running yards did your QB get last night? LOLTo
other real Ute fans, tough loss. Wilson is a gamer. The kid will be
amazing!Best game of the season for the running backs. All three ran
hard.Fun game to watch!
Wow, from a diehard cougar fan, I was even more impressed with the Utes!
They've got my respect! Truly they are even much better than I thought! I
have no doubt that with a couple less turnovers they easily could've come
up on top. I watched and rooted so hard for them last night I was disappointed
when they came up short. And as one of the announcers said, they are much
better than their record. On the other hand, I watched the
Texas/Iowa State game too and I thought the better team didn't win. Iowa
State was robbed of a score by the refs because clearly Texas fumbled in the red
zone in the final minute and Iowa State recovered and ran it back but was nixed
by the refs. Texas simply is not good this year!Btw, how 'bout
them women volleyball cougars!!! They creamed Pepperdine 3-1! It was an
awesome display of talents on both teams! Very exciting contest!Go
Cougars! Good luck Aggies after tomorrow!
"And for those who say Utah won't be UCLA, you are the same people who
said Utah wouldn't beat usu and wouldn't beat byU."Can't imagine who said that??!! Looks like those who said UCLA would win
know more than him about football. That's the problem with Utah. They are
so obsessed with beating BYU (and they barely do when they focus for months on
it as usual) that they can't beat any good team in their conference.
Shallow, shallow program. They need to get a clue.3-9 season coming
up. Most of games left are on the road. Learn to beat teams in your conference
instead of treating them all like they are playing New Mexico. Still love
seeing their fans expectations sky high only to shatter hard on the solid
ground. Let's use a bit more logic when predicting games shall we? Battle
for the basement with Colorado. I love their PAC membership!
I don't know why Utah dropped BYU from the schedule - it seem like
they're the only team that Utah can beat these days...
awesome effort by the UTES!!! our defense is fast man. wow.
UCLA is quite good. Quite good indeed. They are probably the best in the PAC
12 this year save Oregon. But we will see. PAC-12 is easily the second best
conference this year. Might be the best one. Oregon, Arizona State,
UCLA, Washington, and Standford are all quality teams. Oregon State, Arizona,
Washington State and Utah aren't as bad as most conference second tier
teams. Can't wait to see the Colorado-USC game... wooo hoo! or
did that already happen??
I just wish we were all still back in the MWC. The Utes are clearly in over
their heads in the PAC 12 and being independent and having no conference
championship to play for is not much fun for the Cougars. I think money and TV
are ruining college football. The old regional conferences and rivalries are
being destroyed.Getting national exposure is great for the Cougars
and I realize that BYU football exists to be a representative for the Church so
there are many positives for independence for BYU. But, I can't see
anything positive about the PAC 12 for the Utes. They just continue to look
worse all the time. The PAC 12 is a disaster for the Utes and I hope they are
beginning to realize it.
@ChristopherB:As an ASU Alum, I am usually entertained by your
diatribes of how the Utes are "this" and "that" - but I have yet
to see any substance from your Utes in the PAC to back it up... Sure, you can
beat teams from the State of Utah (most years - the Aggies dropped you last
year...), but when it comes to teams from the PAC, you seem to be coming up
short.Smack your lips all you want when it comes to beating the boyz
from Provo, but at least keep it real when it comes to teams from the PAC -
you're "0 for" when it comes to games against my Sun Devil's
since joining the PAC. This "at least we played hard" stuff
doesn't cut it when that's exactly what you're mocking with your
brethren down in happy valley...Start actually winning some games in
the PAC for a change, instead of merely "looking good" and then maybe
those of us from the PAC-10 will begin to give any credibility to the thought
that you actually belong in this league...Just sayin...
Funny how the roles of fans have completely changed over the last 13 years. BYU can't beat Utah so naturally the next best thing to do for BYU
fans is to bag on them when they lose. Pat Kinahan was right in his article he
recently wrote. Personally, if I were a BYU fan, I'd keep my mouth shut
until after you beat Utah State. But since that won't happen, you probably
should have just stayed away for the weekend. But hey, have fun in the battle of
the little brothers. As for the big game tonight, Wilson was not on
his game. The receivers didn't help. I think its games like this that it
really kills Utah missing Kenneth Scott on the field. The O-line was humiliated
in the second half. They must get better to compete next weekend. Some may not agree, but Utah is close! These are games in the past two years
Utah lost by 4 touchdowns. Utah's D is getting good again which is exciting
to see. Now the O must pick it up again.Go Utes... Next weeks is in
my opinion, a must win. Too bad its Stanford!
Most likely, another year without a bowl game. I guess beating BYU was your bowl
game. Keep it up Kyle.
CB:Please stop saying "we". YOU had nothing to do with Utah's
performance and gutty defense tonight. YOU don't belong to a BCS
conference, the ute coaches, players, etc do. Stop taking credit, making
excuses, and aligning yourself with "we". There's no C or B in
That was a great game to watch! I was impressed by Utah's defense. To be
that close with 6 turn overs is amazing.
Under different circumstances, I might have sent out a chuckle to the Utah Ute
trollers, but considering how well the Ute defense played in a hard fought,
seven point loss, just like BYU's loss against Utah a few weeks back,
I'll save my negative comments. The Ute defense did everything
they could and more to win this game. They stopped a lot of UCLA's 3rd down
conversion attempts, they made UCLA's defense go three-and-out many times,
including after several Utah turnovers, and they also got a pick-for-sixth in
the 4th quarter. I predict that, if Utah can control their turnover
margin (just like BYU is going to have to) the Utes will finish with a 7-5
record and play in a decent bowl game.
Whats the Utes home record vs the Pac 12 since joining the conference?
OOPS! Mark it down.
Final score should have been 41-27, but UCLA graciously took a knee instead of
returning Wilson's final interception for a TD.
It would be nice to see Kyle focus on beating teams in his conference rather
than focusing all of his energy on BYU. I think the winds of change are
beginning to blow!
Tough loss. No such thing as moral victories but there were some good things
that came out of this home loss.Even though the offense was sloppy
the defense was extremely good against the #12 team in the nation.Easy to see why the Utes were good enough to beat my Cougars.Obviously the six interceptions were the reason for the loss, but that will
not happen again and the prospects of beating lesser teams should propel the
Utes into a bowl game at the end of the season, and with their schedule that is
saying something. I certainly didn't see that at the beginning of the
season.Well Cougars and USU tomorrow night.Go Blue...I
mean gooooooooooo Cougars
Good game Utes. I know none of us believe in moral victories, but I think Utah
made a statement tonight. Winning in SLC is going to be very tough for anyone.
Utah is a good football team, and they showed it tonight. Keep your heads
up...the Cardinal is up next.
You CANNOT expect to win when you throw 6 interceptions
Travis Wilson mania on hold as the Utes are well on their way to their usual 0-4
start in the PAC 12.
Only one Ute fan I want to call out, it is only because of his "Mark it
down" comments. Your post for the past two weeks is below ChrisBChris BSalt Lake City, UTWin tonight = Win Pac 12 SouthI'm calling it now:Utah 27UCLA 24Utah 1
turnoverUCLA 3 turnoversMark it DownI am sure you
will be back next week doing the same thing because you never learn. Again, my
hats off to the Utah Utes, I am a believer, you convinced me tonight. But still
glad my Bruins hung on to win. Go Bruins!
The refs made a lot of bad calls in the game. Is it too much to ask that it be
called the same for both teams?
Utah played very well tonight. Their defense was top notch. My hats off to the
Utah defense.Some thoughts:1) This game could have been
a hour shorter than it was if it wasn't for all the dang commercials with
TV timeouts. Disappointed with FOX Sports 1 on this game.2) The refs were
terrible, on both sides. Reminder: This was the same crew that blew the call
at the ASU Wisconsin game and another game a week later.3) Utah's
defense is for real4) INT's were not Wilson's fault, can't
blame a QB for tipped INT's. I will say this. Someone on another article
said how does a 6'7"QB get tipped. Answer: When your delivery is side
arm and not over the top. That is how Wilson throws (side arm)5) UCLA was
clutch on 3rd down conversions6) Hundley should have pulled the ball out
and ran it more. The middle was stacked and so was running left.7) UCLA
had a lot of key passes dropped with a lot of room around to run.My
hats off to the Utes, they played solid, especially D!But Happy for
As tough as the conference is, would usu and byu beat anyone in the PAC 12 if we
invited them(we won't)? If Virginia is too much, Colorado likely would be
too. Byu and the WAC 2.0(Mwc) are a combined 0-11 against the PAC
12. I guess that answers my question!
Utah ought to looking into the BIG SkY
I'm excited to hear what my friend ChrisB have to say. Good game by the
Utes they came close.
Uh oh, what is it going to be from ChrisB...silence or excuses? Winner of this
will win the south. No respect for the Devils equal no respect in return. Spin
it how you want "close game to a ranked team" in the end, it's
another mark in the loss column and another loss to a winning PAC 12 school.
Utah does not deserve to be in the PAC 12.
I am a BYU Cougar fan, but let me just say, hats off to the Utah defense. You
guys played your guts out and on so many plays, you prevented UCLA from scoring
or even getting a field goal. In this game, the Bruins 3rd
conversion rate was horrible and that is due in large part to that amazing Ute
defense. But now, Utah's offense is faced with the same problem
as BYU's offense. TURNOVERS! Take away a couple of turnovers in
this game and in the Oregon State game and the Utes are easily 5-0 right now.
There aren't very many times when I feel bad after a Utah loss,
but tonight was one of those times.
Utah will still go to the rose bowl
Utes home for the holidays, congrats
Utah played an entertaining game and is a decent team. But after marking down
another one of Chris B's erroneous predictions, I'm about to send him
a bill for all the wasted paper he's cost me this year.But hang
in there, boys. Utah still might beat an out-of-state team before the end of the
Isn't it funny that fans whose teams can't beat us have to jump on the
bandwagon of teams who do?We own the state of Utah. Tonight we showed we can play with anyone in the country. Proud
member of the second best conference in the country!Go utes!
In the passed month, both BYU, and Utah played ranked teams.The
state showed well with a 1 & 1 record.Let's hope the utes
haven't run out of gas.
Way to represent Utes! Six interceptions? Had no idea you were that
Couldn't be more proud of our team, coaches, and conference. Taking an undefeated 12 ranked team to the wire in a huge home conference game
is something other Utah teams can only dream about. And just
remember to those who mock utah's record in the PAC 12:However
"bad" we are, you're worse! We beat you!
Utes lose to a PAC12 opponent again.....where are you Chris...I thought that you
Marked it Down. 6 picks against the third best team in the South 4-8 and no
bowl game...Mark it down Christy
May Kyle's next victory come against the University of Colorado. He has
spent so much time scheming to beat BYU that he can't coach his way out of
a paper bag these days!