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Published: Wednesday, Oct. 2 2013 5:20 p.m. MDT

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Hutterite
American Fork, UT

"those who place higher importance on religion are more likely to make decisions based on religious beliefs". True, however this does not negate the fact that those who do not place high importance on religious beliefs not only make decisions, but are able to make good ones, based on their own judgement, experience, and the innate morality with which we are all equipped. If you're looking for absolutes, consider statements along the lines of 'people who are nearly seven feet tall are more likely to make clothing decisions based on their size alone'.

The Deuce
Livermore, CA

To:
Hutterite, American Fork, UT - and just where did you discover your "innate morality" came from?

Ranch
Here, UT

@The Deuce;

Can I take a stab at your question? I don't think it came from "god", as I think you're implying. I believe it comes from evolution.

If you ever observe animals in the wild or in captivity, they have what we call "instincts". Instincts develop as they have some benefit to the species. What we call "morality" benefits us as a species, but that doesn't mean it comes from god.

The Deuce
Livermore, CA

To:
Ranch, Here, UT - quite the contrary, I was not suggesting religion had anything to do with it. You answered my question exactly. Instincts develop when benefits are recognized by certain actions. It seems to me that many religions suggest the exact same thing. It seems that many of the instincts you suggest have been long ago developed as individuals experienced truths on a daily basis. Now that you brought up the topic, I wonder where those truths actually came from?

The Scientist
Provo, UT

Morality is inherent in the human experience. It does not need to "come from" anywhere - as if morality has some existence independent of people so that people can only have morality if it is given to them by a god or an "instinct"? That's crazy talk.

Each individual's sense of morality crystallizes and develops based on the facts of their social experiences, learning of language that contains predefined moral constructs, and much more. We don't need to get morality from any empty, fictitious abstractions such as gods, "eternal laws", or "instincts". To be human is to be a moral creature.

No god needed (or wanted, based on the immorality evidenced in religious writings).

Daniel L.
Murray, UT

Some rather interesting opinions on morality in these posts. I for one don't have an all encompassing knowledge of everything to be able to make such statements. Neither would I want to rest my moral compass on what is the best social science has to offer today. Tomorrow it may change, the sciences are fickle that way discovering new things, or misunderstanding others things.

I am indeed grateful for the spiritual "road signs" that help me along the way. That this life does have a manual written by some one with infinitely greater knowledge than me, or any one else on this planet. That with God's help, I can make use of my short stay on this earth with my family the most productive, than without His help.

Then we die, and find out if it was all worth it.

Furry1993
Ogden, UT

I think it coms from parental training starting when the child is very young, whether or not the parents are religious. Good parents teach their children right from wrong in a way that it becomes part of the child's nature from the very beginning of the child's life.

SCfan
clearfield, UT

I like what a character said in one of Woody Allens movies, "Without God, life is a cesspool." To you athiestic types I remind you that the "state of nature" caused by evolution is very violent and "ends justify the means" type of life. All animals engage in it and as we see in much of the Human race, so to do people. Without a higher power setting the moral guidelines, there remains nothing other than Human choice. Hitler made his choice, Ghandi did too. Without a God, no person can say which one is inately better. Many would argue that the survival of the fittest is what should determine the human existence. Others, would argue that there should be mercy on those who are not fit enough to survive. What is best? If God does not decide, then humans decide, and no person can say that one humans choice is better than another with any moral authority. It would only be human opinion. If Hitler had prevailed, then his human choice would have been the rule of the day.

Eliyahu
Pleasant Grove, UT

@SC Fan:
You're overlooking the long history of religious wars over the centuries. Without a doubt, more people have been killed in wars simply because they didn't agree about what happens to them after they're killed than for any other reasons. "Gott mit uns" has been the rallying cry of countless wars, often with both sides claiming the approval of the Almighty. And Hitler's war is a poor choice for someone arguing otherwise, as most of his soldiers were still members in good standing of all the various churches in Germany, including the few LDS members there. In fact, the only church that refused to compromise with the Third Reich in any way were the Jehovah's Witnesses, and they all ended up in the camps for their stand. The rest made whatever concessions were needed to insure their corporate survival there.

Boy Scout
South Jordan, UT

Just after reading the Title, I would like to say...
In other news, Ice is found in Antarctica, Utah has the Highest Birth Rate of all the States, Males generally produce more testosterone, and World Population is increasing.

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