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Published: Wednesday, Oct. 2 2013 4:40 p.m. MDT

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Apocalypse please
Bluffdale, UT

Even if the Bible clearly stated that there was a female apostle, you could always assert that Bible wasn't translated correctly in that instance. Maintaining what ever you believe to be the God ordained status quo really isn't that difficult.

GreatScot
Eagle Mountain, UT

I'm not sure it is fair to say that there is no scriptural precedent. The term "priestess" appears a number of times in ancient scripture, and is used by Latter-day Saints in modern times leading one to believe that we do not yet fully comprehend the concept. God may yet school us in these matters.

celeratelife
Lethbridge, 00

Interesting! Personally, I'm not going to invest too much energy in such mysteries. Experience has taught us that it's not wise to speculate - as in the reversal and the official recounting of all policy & statements regarding Africans & the Priesthood since Brigham Young's time and all the statements that were made about birth control over the years.

m.g. scott
clearfield, UT

A well researched article with lots of references which reminds me why I could never be a scholar. As important as the scriptures are, even in these latter days, it goes to show that the written word from eons ago can and will continue to be used to serve whatever purposes one may want to achieve. That's why I'm happy to believe in latter day revelation and that there are Prophets, Seers, and Revelators of today who can speak to us and help keep us on the right path. Read the scriptures to get the spirit and then Follow the Brethren.

sharrona
layton, UT

RE: Some arguing for the ordination of women, point to Paul's mention of "Junia" at the end of his epistle to the Romans as an example of a female apostle in the early Christian church.

A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of ’One wife’…;(1 Tim 3:12). The NT uses the term bishop, elders, and presbyters interchangeably.

In Greek only a difference of accent distinguishes between Junias (male) and Junia (female). If it refers to a woman, it is possible that she had the gift of apostleship (not the office).

In Greek,Iounias=*Junia which is an English translation, i.e...Iēsous=*Jesus and
Elias=Eli*jah.

There isn’t a Greek character for the English letter *J. The KJV translators mis- transliterated Elijah to Elias in(Mt 11:14; Luke 1:17) . To avoid confusion, modern translations: NIV, NJKV, NASB and the Catholic Bible have Elijah instead of Elias .

In(D&C 110: 1-16) Elias and Elijah appear to JS, but in the Bible they are the same person.

Michigander
Westland, MI

We in The Church of jesus Christ (WHQ: Monongahela, Pennsylvania) ordain women as deaconesses according to the New Testament pattern of Romans 16:1-2, as noted below:

"I commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea [Greece]:
That ye receive her in the Lord, as becometh saints, and that ye assist her in whatsoever business she hath need of you: for she hath been a succourer of many, and of myself also."

The Greek word translated as "servant" is "diakonos" or deaconess in English - the female counterpart to deacons also mentioned in the Apostle Paul's writings in the New Testament (1Tim 3:8-13). Both offices are non-priesthood helps. We have not a few but several hundred (700+) sisters/women who are ordained deaconesses - a very important and valuable office.

Dr. Peterson's article is correct. The good works of Paul's "kinsmen" Junia (or Junias) along with Andronicus were especially being observed or "not[ed]" by the Apostles. That is the simplest and easiest to understand interpretation.

the truth
Holladay, UT

@GreatScot

"priestess" is simply what the wife of the priest or high priest was called. Probably just a bad translation or a cultural thing.

kitchenqueen13
Columbia, MO

I dont think it is so much a matter of could, or should women be ordained to the priesthood or even if they were ordained to the priesthood in the past...women do more than enough as it is...do most of them really want to add the responsibilities of the priesthood to it? I for one am glad I do not have to worry about priesthood callings...I feel that raising my sons to be priesthood holders is more important..I do not feel like less of a person because I cant hold the priesthood...because in my view the mothers of the priesthood holders have more power..lol.. and the wives...we guide the men to be decent and honorable...that doesn't make us less...that makes us an equal helpmate...its like paying tithing...you pay tithing you get blessings, you are supportive of a priesthood holder or raise a priesthood holder, you also get blessings...and just like woman need girl time...(relief society) guys need dude time (priesthood meetings) where they can swap notes on how to be better sons, husbands, and fathers, without there wives commenting...lol..just my opinion :)

SLCPorter
SLC, UT

What is the point spending ANY time dissecting these ancient verses when we have the benefit of a living prophet who can ask God today what he wants the church to do? I for one am going to wait for divine guidance on this.

justinc
Adelaide, 00

I think Peterson starts off with the obvious assumption that an Apostle must have Priesthood. I don't think the earliest Christians did have any such Priesthood (just read what Hebrews 7-8 is implying) although they certainly claimed authority "in the name of" or "by the power of".

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