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Published: Thursday, Oct. 3 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I have no problem with repealing the medical devices tax, but for one thing. The Republicans will never agree to replace the lost revenue with anything else. So a vote to repeal the tax, is a vote for higher deficits.

Eugene, OR

But the Democrats already have compromised. They've agreed to lock the sequester cuts in place. They're not the ones who are throwing a temper tantrum trying to get legally enacted legislation changed. You don't negotiate with terrorists, and that's Ted Cruz and the Tea Party faction of the House have become. If President Obama and the Democrats yield to them, we may as well throw the Constitution out the window.

Are the hardcore right-wingers really thinking through the implications of this? Of course they aren't, and from the looks of things, neither is the DN.

Mainly Me
Werribee, 00

Dream on if you think the Dear Leader will compromise unless it gives him a distinct advantage and makes his critics look bad.

Millington, TN

Sir, you are not only wrong about compromise in this case, you are horribly wrong. The US CANNOT run on irresponsible brinkmanship forced by the House. Perhaps you dislike the ACA. Maybe you detest it. That's not the issue here. The issue is whether or now the US will allow a small group in the House to literally hold up the nation every three months while demanding whatever they want but cannot pass through the normal legislative process. Will you be for "compromise" when breakaway Democrats decide they'll not raise the debt ceiling unless corporate taxes double? This situation could easily reverse in that manner, Democrats are hardly under less pressure from the left than Boehner is from the far right. Obama, though late to realize the actual nature of this recurring manufactured "crisis", has finally woken up and come to work. And he's doing the right job If that blocks something you'd like to see happen, well, tough. This goes beyond issues to whether or not the House will follow the legislative process in the Constitution or will just do whatever they please.

Far East USA, SC

"The demands by some in the GOP for the complete repeal of the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare, were unrealistic from the outset, and they are the primary reason the nation finds itself in this current legislative standoff"

Exactly. In a nutshell. And why the GOP will be blamed.

This has nothing to do with whether the ACA is good or bad.

It IS about using the wrong tool to achieve a goal.

It does not become "noble" just because the appropriate congressional tools have been unsuccessful or that they feel strongly about it.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I would agree IF you mean literally "ALL" need to learn to compromise. But not if you don't include Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and others. President Obama would also have to learn to compromise as well, and quit saying, "there will be NO CHANGES to ObamaCare".

Seems like Democrats could at least look for some kind of bone to throw to the Republicans to give them an honorable way out, or even agree to READ what they send to the Senate. Or even make a counter-proposal besides "absolutely NOTHING will change" and "We won't even READ whatever you send us". That's not "Compromise".

albuquerque, NM

Democrats have already comprised by accepting sequester level funding for the clean CR. Where is the acknowledgement or even any awareness for this important compromise, in this story? Congressional republicans are as dishonest as this opinion article.

Perfect example of media bias - right wing media bias. Shame on you!

clearfield, UT

If one watches the non liberal media, you will find that the Republicans have offered changes, and sent them to the Senate in the last few days. These are not reported on mainstream media. What is clearly happening now is Reid and Obama see this shutdown as to their advantage and actually want it to go on. So, that is why there is and will be no compromise. If Obama and the Democrats were getting the majority blame, compromise would be all over the place. Therefore, even getting rid of a tax that both sides don't like will not happen per Obama and Reid. However, the mainstream media will never report that, will they.

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

President Obama is right not to give an inch until the gov't is funded. Then it's time to talk. By giving in now, he gets nothing in return--and that is NOT a compromise, that's a "lose" for him.

Kearns, UT

Compromise is about not getting everything either group wants. The Republicans are seeking to delay the ACA, Democrats are seeking to fund the government and put people and the economy back to work.

Now, Democrats can't compromise on their side as a functioning government is needed for the stability of the Country. Republicans keep lowering their demands regarding the ACA but won't stop offering things that aren't compromised.

If you want to see true compromise from the Democrats, Republicans need to offer up something that Democrats want for delaying anything with regards to the ACA.

Now, imagine if the Republicans offered to pass the Senates version of Immigration Reform in exchange for a delay of the ACA.

How about if Republicans offered to allow a Public Option for Healthcare for removing the Individual Mandate that they claim is terrible.

You cannot offer to restore funding to the government only if your demands are met. That is not compromise, that is extremism and it does lead to terrorism when the group making the demands don't see any action on them.

So, for compromise, Republicans need to offer something to the Democrats other than temporarily funding the government.

albuquerque, NM

@ 2 bits
You are missing the most important point: if any congress (gop or dem) is allowed to change a standing law using a government shutdown tantrum, the US will have no constitution and no government. That's anarchy, by definition.

If the gop house gets their way, there will be nothing to stop them from altering any standing law they don't like. Want slavery back? Close the govt. Want to repeal womens' right to vote? Close down the govt.

That's just one important reason why democrats will stand against this unconstitutional tactic forever, if necessary.

I am tired of the misinformation and fuzzy thinking coming from gop supporters.


Editorial board:

I think you are right that a compromise might have served to avert the shutdown. That is not exactly a brilliant statement. The problem is that there was no desire to compromise in the administration and too much hubris to even consider it. I'm no Republican but it seems to me they did try to find some common ground, but were rebuffed. Now what?

I think that the fact that the Republicans are now standing up for the will of the people, which you do not seem to consider, is heartening and exhilarating. I am heartily sick of the disdain that the high and mighty have for the people of the United States.

Res Novae
Ashburn, VA

"If one watches the non liberal media, you will find that the Republicans have offered changes, and sent them to the Senate in the last few days. These are not reported on mainstream media."

First, yes it's being reported in the mainstream media, so leave the media bias martrydom out of it.

Second, the House is putting out piecemeal funding bills that cherrypick politically palatable areas to fund. They're doing this onowing that the Senate will ignore anything less than a full funding CR so that the GOP can run back to its base and complain about how the Dems won't compromise.

Of course the Dems won't compromise on that. The reactionaries on the far right have taken the entire government hostage in an effort to circumvent the legislative process. Authorizing a handful of funding bills is the equivalent of releasing a few hostages. The Snate rightly insists that everyone be released.

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

This will end once enough moderate Republicans split off from the Tea Party types because they see that this does not benefit them long-term. Pres. Obama has no incentive to move as he looks good by contrast.

Former Senator Bennett called this one a few days ago in the Deseret News. His analysis is proving out.

Salt Lake City, UT

Repealing the medical device tax would add 30 billion to the deficit. Ah nevermind... Republicans don't care about the deficit anyway.

Reading, MA

There is nothing to compromise. The budget is a Republican budget that the President has said he would sign. The only reason for this disaster is because Republicans are in a snit about the ACA, nothing else.

ACA is the law of the land. It was passed by the House, passed by the Senate, signed by the President of the United States, and vetted by the Supreme Court. Like it or not, it is the law. If you don't like it, introduce a bill to repeal it, but defunding it is wrong. More wrong is to hold the entire country, our economy, jobs, health, safety, security, and education hostage to the Republicans fit of pique.

Shame on Republicans.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

The tea party abhors compromise. When Chafetz wants the present to compromise he means capitulate now or in one year.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

So... what's wrong with Congress being allowed to "change a standing law using a government shutdown" or any other power given them in the Constitution? Do you want the Defense of Marriage Act back? (A standing law that was recently removed).

2. RE: "the US will have no constitution and no government"! I think you are being over-dramatic.

3. RE: "That's just one important reason why democrats will stand against this unconstitutional tactic forever, if necessary".

You are aware that 16 out of the 18 times the Government has shutdown Democrats controlled the Senate and refused to compromise? Most of the times they controlled the House as well. Google "Government shutdown history" and see the table of each instance in Wikipedia". So... with that in mind. Explain how "democrats will stand against this unconstitutional tactic forever"... when they are the ones who do it.

4. You're "tired of the misinformation and fuzzy thinking coming from gop supporters"... but misinformed Democrat supporters are OK?

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

In order to compromise you have to leave tea party fantasy.

Salt Lake City, UT

@2 bits - What's wrong with Congress using a shut down to change a law? It's wrong because in a democracy process matters. The ACA was publicy debated for 14 months. It was subject to endless public discussion and debate and who knows how many changes. Many parts of it were added because Republicans said they supported them. In its most essential design, it is a plan created by a conservative think tank in the 1990s, and then successfully implemented in MA.

There are defined ways in which laws can be changed or repealed and Republicans tried those ways and failed. Turning to blackmail to achieve desired ends is an assault on democratic processes.

Honest negotiation means seeking an outcome acceptable to both sides. House Republicans know they aren't offering any acceptable outcomes. They aren't willing to consider anything other than their desired outcome. Those outcomes may be noble, but the ends do not justify the means.

The debate is not about the ACA. It's about the ways in which a democracy functions and the ways in which our democracy makes decisons.

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