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9 million babies and mothers may be harmed by WIC shutdown

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  • Tuffy Parker Salem, UT
    Oct. 3, 2013 12:39 a.m.

    This is exactly the kind of thing that should be funded by churches, community based outreach and charities like the United Way.

    I personally know people who have legitimately benefited from WIC BUT I also know people who have severely abused it because the government is a very poor manager of these resources.

    Let the private sector step up and let's get the government out of it.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 3, 2013 6:24 a.m.

    White House press secretary Jay Carney said sharply that Obama "will not offer concessions to Republicans in exchange for not tanking the economy."

    His own spokesman say BO would rather tank the economy than offer concessions. Looks like he’d rather endanger women and children that offer concessions, too. What a great leader! NOT

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Oct. 3, 2013 6:31 a.m.

    Behold, the effects of trusting in the arm of flesh.
    I do hope this shut down will encourage more people to move back home to extended family, if they haven't already worn out their welcome.
    Hillary's village is proven to be unreliable.

  • Blue Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 3, 2013 7:26 a.m.

    Thank you, Tuffy, for expressing so succinctly the fantasy vision of America that now dominates conservatives and that has become the #1 reason why the rest country wisely chooses not to put you guys in charge.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Oct. 3, 2013 7:59 a.m.

    Dependency is not freedom! But it sure wins elections.

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    Oct. 3, 2013 8:07 a.m.

    "Let them eat cake." -- Marie T-Party Antoinette

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    Oct. 3, 2013 8:09 a.m.

    Well, I guess there's really no problem at all. Just move in with Mom, then hope that shows up at your new address before anyone actually gets hungry. Problem solved!

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 3, 2013 8:22 a.m.

    We are a Christian nation so we let kids go hungry, just like he would.

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    Oct. 3, 2013 8:26 a.m.

    Reid, was asked about a bill to fund the National Institutes of Health, including clinical trials for kids with cancer, Reid responded, "Why would we want to do that?" Pretty much reveals what this is all about.

  • redshirt007 tranquility base, 00
    Oct. 3, 2013 8:32 a.m.

    If churches and NPO's had solved even these basic problems, the government wouldn't have much to do in the area of social programs. Government programs are a sign of church failure.

    Shame for there being any of this work left to do. Church leaders actually tell people to use government programs first!

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Oct. 3, 2013 8:44 a.m.

    We have spent trillions of tax dollars on welfare since the 50's and we have an all time record amount of people on welfare today! Ask yourself what causes poverty and if your answer is personal irresponsibility you can answer the question, what is the ONLY way to end poverty.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 3, 2013 8:52 a.m.

    Blue, irony Guy, Ernest

    care to address harry's comment as quoted by mohokat?

    repubs try to fund this stuff and keep the government open, dems vote to shut it down, and yet you take unfounded pot-shots. reconcile what harry said with caring for the poor. "why would we want to do that?"

    while you're at it, reconcile Carney's comment that Bo would rather tank the economy than compromise.

    what those comments really tell us is the dems want and welcome the shut-down, regardless of any economic damage or personal suffering, because they score political points, and that is ALL that matters to harry and BO.

  • spring street SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Oct. 3, 2013 9:43 a.m.

    @lost and mohokat

    Excuse my suspicion but I would like to see a reference for this "quote."

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Oct. 3, 2013 10:12 a.m.

    @ lost and DC: It's out of context as per usual from their radio overlords.

    Reid responded, "What right did they have to pick and choose what part of government is going to be funded? It's obvious what's going on here. You talk about reckless and irresponsible. Wow. What this is all about is Obamacare. They are obsessed. I don't know what other word I can use. They're obsessed with this Obamacare. It's working now and it will continue to work and people will love it more than they do now by far. So they have no right to pick and choose."

    "But if you can help one child who has cancer why wouldn't you do it?" asked Dana Bash.

    "Why would we want to do that?" Reid responded. "I have 1,100 people at Nellis Air Force base that are sitting home. They have a few problems of their own. This is - to have someone of your intelligence to suggest such a thing maybe means you're irresponsible and reckless."

    They never read the whole quote, and they never interpret what's being said...by themselves.

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    Oct. 3, 2013 10:39 a.m.

    @Happy "But if you can help one child who has cancer why wouldn't you do it?" asked Dana Bash.

    "Why would we want to do that?" Reid responded. "I have 1,100 people at Nellis Air Force base that are sitting home. They have a few problems of their own. This is - to have someone of your intelligence to suggest such a thing maybe means you're irresponsible and reckless."

    And your point is????? Pretty clear to me and not out of context, exactly what he said!!!

    Defend the indefensible

  • MrsH Altamont, UT
    Oct. 3, 2013 11:07 a.m.

    mohokat, that's still not a reference...

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Oct. 3, 2013 12:30 p.m.

    What he is saying to those with comprehension skills is, what makes your imaginary child more important than than any other persons life who is being hurt by the republicans a la carte approach to governing.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 3, 2013 12:35 p.m.

    HVH,
    thanks for the quote - we see the context and see that harry's comments are indefensible. thanks again. welcome to our side.

    MrsH, spring
    the heretic also quoted it.

    reid accuses the right of being obsessed with obamacare - and he's not? If reid and BO were not obsessed about obamacare, this whole situation would be over. repubs have passed legislation calling for PEOPLE to be treated under obamacare as well as CORPORATIONS. BO delayed the corporate portion - repubs want treatement just as good for PEOPLE.

    and reid said obamacare is working. HAHAHAHAHA

    reid knows as much about the truth as a fish does about nuclear physics.

    still waiting for you to defend the indefensible. attacking the quote or the commenter is NOT defending reid's denial of funding clinical trials for kids with cancer.

    having people sit idle at Nellis AFB is more important than kids with cancer? I guess since the kids cannot vote, we know harry values the idle more.

  • lket Bluffdale, UT
    Oct. 3, 2013 12:40 p.m.

    this is class warfare by the republican party to make the middle class even more poor because down the road it will hurt us all. but first the poor will suffer. class warfare is the republican party. they work for the rich they all signed a document to not raise taxes that they are loyal to, that was written for the benefit of the rich. they do not care about the working class poor that can not afford rent and insurance.

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    Oct. 3, 2013 1:51 p.m.

    Happy & Mrs H. Lets test those comprehension skills

    A direct Question: "But if you can help one child who has cancer why wouldn't you do it?"

    The answer to that question :"Why would we want to do that?"

    Have I got that correct? I thought so!

  • SCfan clearfield, UT
    Oct. 3, 2013 1:54 p.m.

    Spring Street

    The quote is TRUE. I saw Carney say it on TV, FOX News. I'm sure other outlets spiked it as soon as possible and began talking about Kim Kardashian or something.

    It is now becomming obvious that this shutdown will last as long as it benefits the Democrats politically.

    I wouldn't say this on any other site than Des News, but now do you understand why the LDS Church talks so much about food storage, preparation, staying out of debt, ect. We can't depend on the government. Eventually it will let you down. Or leave you down and out.

  • suzyk#1 Mount Pleasant, UT
    Oct. 7, 2013 9:22 a.m.

    It's beyond me what our country has done to deserve the Obamas. There has been nothing but negative feelings through our country because of the poor choices and behavior of this President. I never believed in my lifetime I would witness such a selfish and puffed up man being elected. The American people need to reflect on their decision and hopefully when he is gone we will through the grace of God be able to bring our wonderful United States of America back into the arms of those who love it.

  • Nan BW ELder, CO
    Oct. 7, 2013 3:21 p.m.

    It is sad to have children hungry, but it is sadder to have a big portion of the population dependent on such "resources." I've seen all too many children from backgrounds of "poverty" eating only the pizza portion of lunch or the sugary cereal portion of breakfast and throwing leftover picnic food in a dumpster after a party. A good part of our "poverty" problem is lack of knowledge about how to buy food, prepare food, and eat nutritious food. Fast food and other junk food is just to easy to rely on when other less expensive options are bypassed.

    This doesn't mean I think BO and Harry are doing the right thing. I think they are poor excuses for leaders, but the overall problem has many angles. We could all do more to solve the problems. First we should elect honest smart people to represent us. We failed there remarkably.