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Published: Tuesday, Oct. 1 2013 8:55 p.m. MDT

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one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

Looks like he's going all in.

CP
Tooele, UT

I'm glad to hear that Sen. Lee isn't backing down. Obama has received so much money for his so called healthcare reform. He has caused this nation trillions more dollars of debt because of it. Stick to your guns Sen. Lee.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

He should resign if the Affordable Care Act is not repealed.

Meckofahess
Salt Lake City, UT

Senator Lee, you will end up being on the wrong side of history with this issue. Your name will also be in the wrong row on the ballot for my vote next go around. We need serious representatives in the US Senate from the state of Utah, not radical extremists who don't offer reasonable alternatives to a good but not perfect health care law that will finally provide much prayed for healthcare to millions of Americans. Utah can do a lot better in selecting candidates for the US Senate!. As a former Republican converted to a Conservative Independent, I think Jon Huntsman would make an outstanding Senator or President of the United States. Please run again for office Governor Huntsman!!!!!!!!!.

Iron Rod
Salt Lake City, UT

Are people wrong in wanting the same insurance coverage that Senator Lee has and for the same price?

Justmythoughts
Provo, UT

I want the same health care Congress has.....

bandersen
Saint George, UT

As sad as it is for those who are being furloughed is, far, far and away is the tyranny and loss of liberty, and the dependency and loss of self respect that comes with socialism, including the loss of lives resulting from a government takeover of the health care system. Thank you senator lee. Two terms and out before you lose your soul like the kingmen that are there before you. A corrupt politician is not a cliche. It is what happens to those who stay. Get out while you are still a good man.

JDL
Magna, UT

Meckofahess

What is your alternative? You cry that Senator Lee is an extremist and offers no solution but you are more guilty than he is. I see Senator Lee as extremely principled--he has taken a hard stand against a hardened and cruel not to mention corrupt system that has usurped power from we the people.

I disagree that he is standing on the wrong side of the History. He may not win the battle against a corrupt and powerful foe but, he is standing for you and for me and someday you may thank him rather than revile him.

This time, this very issue of Obama care, in my opinion is a defining moment in the history of the US. I fear the worst if Mr. Lee fails.

Kings Court
Alpine, UT

The ACA (Affordable Care Act) was fought under the normal legislative process. If the Republican Congress wants to repeal Obamacare, it should be through normal procedures but instead, they are refusing to pay the bills they incurred until the President just hands it over to them. That is not normal, that is not the way the government is supposed to operate, and it circumvents the proper use of checks and balance and divided government.

CP of Tooele, I do hope you are aware that Obama has added the least amount of new debt out out of the last five Presidents (excepting President Clinton). Note the keyword is new, meaning "new" debt. Most of the Trillions added to during the last four years was "legacy" debt. "Legacy" means debt that is ongoing due to past Presidents and Congresses. For instance, TARP was legacy debt. Prescription drug benefits costs is legacy debt; so is military spending from the wars in the Middle East. The list goes on and on, but I hope this helps you understand debt a bit better.

JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt
Beverly Hills, CA

As a former Republican I recall NO, NOT 1, GOP leader asking GW Bush to curb any spending. Now you all fight the Healthcare reform law which was a GOP idea to begin with. How do I know this? Gee, I was one who supported this GOP model that Romneycare and Obamacare are patterned after the Sutherland Institute plan.

The BIGGEST question to my former GOP. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO REPLACE IT WITH? You know why NO GOP politicians has an answer? Because Obama used their plan.

If Romney was president, he would just RENAME the Affordable care act and keep it the exact same with the MANDATE. Then he would give his campaign pledge 2 Trillion on top of Pentagon requested budgets and none of you conservatives would oppose this spending just like none of you opposed any GW Bush spending.

durwood kirby
South Jordan, UT

Bandersen: "Get out while you are still a good man."

In my view, it's too late. His pride is costing Americans much more than just a few bucks.

SAS
Sandy, UT

The real irony is that the ACA is not subject to the shutdown of discretionary funding. Its funding guarantee was passed (by both houses of Congress) at the same time as the rest of the act.

So while it's good to see Matheson calling for a spending bill that includes the ACA funding, either he or the DN reporter has the wires crossed.

The shutdown won't affect the ACA one way or another--the exchange websites are online right now. The republicans are just holding the rest of government hostage until they get their way on ACA.

Aggielove
Cache county, USA

A patriot

JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt
Beverly Hills, CA

If the GOP has the guts and intestinal fortitude and the votes to repeal the Affordable Care Act, then DO IT ON IT'S OWN MERITS. Attaching it to all other bills PROVES Republicans cannot pull it off and are willing to paralyze the country to get their way. They have offered ZERO compromise and a long list of demands.

I know the GOP playbook because I used to be GOP. They put party and power before country. They didn't bother to lift a finger during the Recession, instead they tried to pass dozens of body control bills.

Thank goodness I saw the light and am an Independent now.

riverofsun
St.George, Utah

American Voters now yearn for the "old days" when the older, more seasoned legislators had control over the younger, ego driven newcomers. Then newbies were told to "sit down, shut up, pay attention, listen and learn".
America also recalls the day after Barack Obama was elected when it was decided by the GOP at the post election meeting of Republican leaders to say "NO" to anything our President presented to legislators.
America also vividly remembers the Tea Party whipper snappers vowing to "shutdown the government, if it was the last thing they ever did" as they assumed their positions following the 2010 election.
What's next?

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

A large majority of Americans wanted expanded background checks for guns--but were ignored by legislators. Should we employ shutting down the govt. to achieve it?

It is sheer lunacy to expect a twice-elected (Democratic) Pres. and a Democratically controlled Senate to abandon the signature achievement of his presidency. Ain't going to happen. Most Americans know the Tea Party Republicans are expecting too much and don't like their bully tactics. Unfortunately this extremist group--led by Cruz and Lee--have little risk when facing re-election. But Republicans in more moderate districts should be very concerned about the next election.

Barely one in four (26%) approve of congressional Republicans’ handling of budget negotiations, while 34% approve of their Democratic counterparts and 41% approve of Obama’s approach.
(Washington Post/ABC poll)

46% said that if government agencies and programs start closing on Tuesday, they would fault Republicans in Congress while 36% said they would blame Obama, the CNN survey found. 13% said both would be at fault.

The Quinnipiac poll also shows Democrats with a 9-point lead on the 2014 House generic ballot — a historically wide edge.

RedneckLefty
St. George, UT

What does it matter what the blowhard Lee thinks at this point? The Senate already passed its version--which the House leadership wouldn't even put to a vote in the house, precisely BECAUSE there was a bipartisan group of GOPs an Dems large enough to pass it!

There is nothing principled about this. It is self-indulgent grandstanding that hurts real people.

Shame on Lee and the rest of Utah's delegation.

mountainlocal
Brooklyn, NY

Senator Lee is fighting a battle he can't win. With egg on his face, he is simply following his ego. He is completely delusional and hurting thousands of others at his expense. It never pays to have an idealistic but extremely naive Senator. As the former senator Enid Greene Mickleson stated, "This isn't about being conservative or not conservative. This is about whether people are willing to deal in the real world." Lee is letting his ego hurt others by trying to be a hero.

Bob K
porland, OR

Utah could do a lot better than Sen Lee.

If getting rid of Pres Obama and his policies is more important to someone reading my comment than insuring the orderly running of the Government, and the balance between its three branches, may I suggest you are the suckers who swallowed the lies.

Health care should have been fixed by Nixon or Reagan -- but there is too much money for rich interests in it the way it exists, so they dupe America that it did not need fixing.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

Conservatives say that Obamacare will cause more harm than good so getting rid of it will prevent that harm. I don't agree with that... at all, and Republicans have nothing to show for the "replace" part of the "repeal and replace" part but let's give them the benefit of the doubt that they're sincere about this. I assume that Republicans, being decent people, also don't want to see Obamacare fail (if we're "stuck with it").

Here's the part I don't understand... if you think Obamacare is a net negative, and you also sincerely don't want to harm anybody, why defund Obamacare? Defunding it doesn't keep it from being law AND you worsen the state of it which would only make it more harmful to people. What is the reasoning behind this? Can one of you conservatives help explain that because the only logical thing to me is that Republicans do want to see Obamacare fail and they want to sabotage it without care about the American people. What am I missing?

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