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Published: Tuesday, Oct. 1 2013 8:55 a.m. MDT

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PAC man
Anaheim, CA

sg

"BYU will lose by at least 10, but could be more simply because they face a QB that can pass and BYU has a horrible passing defense."

Gotta luv how some fans just make stuff up to support their own personal biases.

BYU has the 34th ranked passing efficiency defense (114.08), on par with Utah State's 27th ranked passing efficiency defense (110.54).

In total defense, they're nearly identical, BYU (320.5 ypg), USU (315.4 ypg).

And let's not forget, Taysom outplayed Chuckie across the board in a 6-3 win last year.

Taysom 24/36, 235 yds, 1 TD, 1 int, 19 carries, 80 yds
Chuckie 22/38, 202 yds, 0 TD, 0 int, 10 carries, 23 yds

pac12ute4life
Beverly Hills, CA

Utah State and BYU are just fighting for the scraps from Utah's "Big Boy" table. Neither program can hold a candle to the Utes. And the gap will only get bigger, given that Utah is a true national brand and BYU and Utah State are irrelevant regional schools.

WA_Alum&Dad
Marysville, WA

@pac12ute4life:
"Utah is a true national brand and BYU and Utah State are irrelevant regional schools."

You already said this, and it hasn't gotten any less ridiculous with repetition.

East of the front range of the Rockies, no one even knows U exist. The Utes keep good coaches for less time than you do your athelete-students, then they are off to bigger and better jobs without a second look.

54-10
Salt Lake City, UT

WA_Alum&Dad
Marysville, WA

4 in a row and 9 of 12.

Have a good 3 years.

worf
Mcallen, TX

What good is having Utah teams beating each other?

Let's play football, and increase national exposure. Let's play out of state teams.

Utah was fortunate in its two in-state wins, but gets crushed in the PAC 12. Looks bad for the whole state.

Forget the rival.

ekute
Layton, UT

Good programs develop coaches that are sought after by other schools.

Struggling programs on the decline go crawling on their knees to hire back coaches that they fired.

pac12ute4life
Beverly Hills, CA

"East of the front range of the Rockies, no one even knows U exist."

Get your head out of the sand. Utah is a national brand. We compete with the big boys in the Pac 12 day in and day out. Our coach is here to stay.

worf
Mcallen, TX

If you wear a Utah tee-shirt east of the rockies, people think it's BYU.

Never heard of the utes.

pac12ute4life
Beverly Hills, CA

"If you wear a Utah tee-shirt east of the rockies, people think it's BYU. Never heard of the utes."

False. The Utes put the beat down on Bama the last time they played, and would have won the national championship that year had a playoff system been in place. The Utes are going to start hauling in big-time recruits from Texas after they play in the Rose Bowl this year.

Whether you like it or not, the Utes are a national brand, much more so than either of BYU or Utah State.

sammyg
Springville, UT

delusionalute4life

FYI--- Your coach is a short timer.

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

"ute seniors 1-1 v USU seniors, and are LUCKY to be 1-1."

Lucky was what occurred in OT last year. This year's game had zero to do w/luck. The U won the 1st, 3rd and 4th quarters and, following usu's final TD merely 3 minutes into the 3rd quarter, The U limited them to under 100 yards of total O for the remainder, including forcing 3 punts. Meanwhile, The U outscored usu, 16-3, during this identical final-stretch, as they wore usu down as time gradually elapsed, including racking-up more than 250 yards of total O. usu dominated 1 quarter and 3 additional minutes. The U dominated the remaining 3 quarters and 42 minutes of the game.

usu is a good team, but they lost to the better team, no matter how one spins it. Momentum swung as a result of superior coaching/scouting when taking advantage of usu's tendency on kick-returns.

I'll be rooting for usu tomorrow night, as they attempt to solidify their rightful place as the state's 2nd best team!

JohnInSLC
Cottonwood Heights, UT

"The Utes and Aggies needs to win a Championship before they can be on the same level as BYU."

Tama:

Wow, that's a stretch! By that reasoning, Army is MUCH more relevant today than BYU. The Cadets won 3 NC's in a row, way back when.

Horrible Stumper
Hyrum, UT

I think EKUTE hit it right on the head. USU's main rival will become BSU. As BYU continues it's death spiral to irrelevance, Idaho State is a viable contender for becoming BYUs main rival. Others to consider are New Mexico State and Idaho. They can fight for the Unaffiliated Bowl. As far as independents, BYU is always going to be behind Notre Dame, and never have the prestige of an Army team or a Navy team. Because of their success 30 years ago the big boys (SEC, Big 12, & PAC 12) will continue to schedule the Y as a punching bag. So the Y fans shouldn't be too arrogant.

pac12ute4life
Beverly Hills, CA

"The Utes and Aggies needs to win a Championship before they can be on the same level as BYU."

Please. The Utes would have won the national championship in 2008 (and probably 2004), if a playoff system had been in place. The Utes were the best team in the country after all the games had been played. That gives Utah two championships.

In any event, with Pac 12 membership and a national following, it will only be a matter of time before they win another championship, now that a playoff format exists. The rest of the teams in Utah can mire in mediocrity and vie for the title of the best team in a very weak football state.

Onward and Upward!!!

WA_Alum&Dad
Marysville, WA

There's much more to being a national university than being a flash in the pan in football for two years back a decade ago, before your coach runs off to bigger things at the first opportunity.

And if we limit the conversation to athletics, Utah can't seem to walk and chew gum at the same time. When has their men's BB and FB teams been any good at the same time? How many other perennial powerhouse teams does Utah field? Oh yeah--women's gymnastics. Ski team? Right. How many schools/conferences even have ski teams? Really tough to dominate in a sport no one else takes seriously, huh.

If you are talking what is supposed to be the primary mission of a university, with the possible exception of the medical program, Utah doesn't even make a ripple. Meanwhile the Wall Street Journal reports BYU ranked #11 nationally by college recuiters, ahead of programs such as Cornell, Cal Berkeley, Ohio State, UCLA, Notre Dame, MIT, USC.

I looked and looked, but I didn't see the University of Utah on the Top 25 list. Must be a clerical error!

So give it a rest, wannabes.

Steven S Jarvis
Orem, UT

USU has two more games with BYU at most that Keaton will play. Will the Aggies get that caliber of player in the next twenty years to play QB?

USU is as much of a rival as Wyoming, Air Force or Hawaii has been. The games have always been fun but lacked the competition required of a true rivalry. BYU usually won all those contests, or at least the vast majority of them. Utah on the otherhand has.

Boise State probably has higher potential of replacing Utah as BYU's rival. BYU has got to start winning those close ones to get the Broncos respect.

Christine B. Hedgefog
Salt Lake City, UT

Stumper, just wondering, is the Unaffiliated Bowl better than no bowl at all? I figured nobody better to ask than a Ute homer.

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