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Published: Tuesday, Oct. 1 2013 8:55 a.m. MDT

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Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Yes.

Utah state and byu are more similar than Utah and either of those schools.

Utah's record against each of them the last decade shows we are a step above them

Utah can't be a true rival as no power conference team is rivals with non power conference teams other than Notre DAme. And byu is no Notre Dame

USC and UCLA don't consider San Diego State a rival, even if San Diego views it that way

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Yes.

Utah state and byu will continue to fight for the recruiting leftovers most of the time in Utah, in addition to their fight on the field for the second best team in the state each year.

Guess who won more of the head to head to head recruiting battles the last 4 years between the 3 schools.

Utah
Utah
Utah
Utah

Most recruits mentioned the Pac 12 being a big reason for picking Utah over byu and Utah state. Utah will always have that Pac 12 membership in the future, byu and usu will not.

That is why Utah state and byu are more similar now.

Mars_
Logan, UT

I don't think BYU fans consider us as a rival at all. At least, it's been explained to me several times by BYU fans I know and interact with that such is the case. That's ok, they're allowed to think that. I know that over the last 25 years we've only won twice, and you need to win more to be considered a rival. Hopefully with the start of the new era at USU, and the home and home, this will change going forward. Frankly I don't really care if BYU is or isn't a "rival," though, I just want to win.

I'm not sure we have a penultimate rival. We had one in New Mexico State, but they're no longer conference mates and it's a pain in the tuckus to get out to Las Cruces now that USU's airline of choice (I can't remember which it is) no longer flies into El Paso directly.

These things grow organically, they're not made. And given conference realignment mania, I'm wondering what the future of regional rivalries will be. Sad.

Trevvor
Sandy, UT

I graduated from BYU recently, attended most of the football games, and never once thought of Utah State as a rival. Can't say I do now either. And I don't remember anyone else feeling much different than I do. I'm glad they're an improving program that has had success in recent years. I hope Wells continues to do great things in Logan. But I don't think anyone in Provo will ever see Utah State as a rival.

2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0
Ogden, UT

I have long been saying this.

They are both non-power conference teams
Neither has proven they can consistently beat Utah in recent years
Neither has ever sniffed a BCS Bowl
Neither will ever receive a power conference invite
Neither has a top 5 finish in recent years
Neither has two top 5 finishes in recent years
Neither has beaten an SEC powerhouse in a bowl game in recent years

I think it will be a great fight for second place in Utah each year as they play.

agarrett
PROVO, UT

No. You can't ever "outgrow" a rival. If you could, then it never was a real rivalry. Rivalries go in cycles, just like USC/UCLA or Ohio St/Michigan. BYU will be back on top in football eventually. Then the U will be back on top after that. The fact that Chris B is the first one to even comment on this article with his ranting and raving is a testament to the Holy War's intensity and longevity.

Sanpete in Utah
Fairview, UT

In a word, no.

In a few more words, it's not even close. There's a lot more to a rivalry than close scores (which also exist between BYU and Utah). The roots of the BYU-Utah rivalry are deeper and still every bit as strong as before. Even the denial of the rivalry by fans on both sides reveals that very plainly.

That said, there's a fine rivalry of long standing between BYU and Utah State as well. Hope it keeps developing as it has in the last few years.

CougarSunDevil
Phoenix, AZ

Thanks ChrisB and 2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP (Chris B again) for posting on an article for BYU and Utah State. You've once again validated that BYU and Utah State are as relevant as ever before because if they weren't (like you say all the time) you wouldn't waste your time, just like I don't waste my time posting on a Ute story. You can own the State of Utah (not saying much), but you can't own anything else in the PAC-12. Enjoy your 8 game losing streak. I will laugh when my Sun Devils come own you for the third time in a row. You might, MIGHT beat USC in a very down year. But it will be a close game. My money is on USC though.

Robroy
Murray, utah

CB,, how is it with all of your recruiting prowess and pac12 affiliation that you are still a perennial loser in your conference? Congratulations, you now have no rivals in the state of Utah, the pac12, or anywhere else in the country. Why? No one care about u.

Vladhagen
Salt Lake City, UT

I think that USU will always have a back seat to the U. As a BYU fan, I cheer for USU pretty much every week. When USU plays BYU, I cheer for BYU. But, I would much rather see USU win than that other team.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Robroy,

"CB,, how is it with all of your recruiting prowess and pac12 affiliation that you are still a perennial loser in your conference"

Because we're not playing byu every week.

We're playing teams that have even better recruiting than we do.

Did you really not understand such a simple concept?

ekute
Layton, UT

As the cougars continue to decline their rival will be Idaho State. Go Bengals.

USU's rival will be BSU as the jockey for dominance in the MWC. Go Aggies.

ekute
Layton, UT

"No one care about u."???...Go to the comment sections under recent U articles.

Trevvor
Sandy, UT

ekute, don't flatter yourself. I just went and looked at the comments on both the byu and Utah articles. There are more ute "fans" commenting on byu articles than there byu fans on ute articles. In fact, there are more ute "fans" commenting on byu articles than there are ute "fans" on ute articles. And its not even close. BYU and Utah fans both pay more attention to byu than anyone else.

dbrbmw
Orem, UT

Yes and without the hate. Very refreshing and very cool.

dbrbmw
Orem, UT

The U's rival is the cellar of the PAC 12.

Will T.
Salt Lake City, UT

In the past 12 years, Utah is 18-4 vs. Utah St and BYU.

Pretty clear who owns this state.

TamaBYU
Provo, UT

The Utes and Aggies needs to win a Championship before they can be on the same level as BYU.

Ifel Of'a-sofa
Alpine, Utah

certain posters are going on about "recent years" and "power conference prowess" all while being doormats in the "RECENT" years.

don't they call that little man syndrome?

ute seniors 1-1 v USU seniors, and are LUCKY to be 1-1.

every power conference has bottom feeders that can't stand on their own merit so they try to stand on conference big brothers.

being at both the Coliseum and Rose Bowl two weeks ago and being able to talk face to face with both fan bases, there was little relevance to them from any team in Utah and when I brought up the pac12 utes specifically, they giggled.

AQ means conference teams can automatically qualify for a bcs bowl, but when you put a dress on a pig, it is still a pig.

WON84
PLANO, TX

This is obviously a slow news cycle.

Chris B., while I'd be fine with the BYU-Utah rivalry disappearing, your comments seem to indicate that it will live on.

You picked the win two weeks ago, props. But, that game is over and there are no more games for a while. You should focus on your new conference.

BYU was a 7 point favorite to Utah two weeks ago. BYU is a 7 point under dog to Utah St.

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