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Published: Tuesday, Oct. 1 2013 1:28 p.m. MDT

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ParkCityAggie
Park City, Ut

Many, if not most of the tea party candidates ran in 2010 with the promise of "shutting down the government." Don't take my word for it, research yourself if you don't believe me. And it looks like they made good on that promise. Now what did it gain them? Good question, it would have been easy to be responsible, even fiscally responsible and not let this happen. The last government shut down actually cost tax payers close to 2 billion dollars. This one should double that. Did they hurt Obama? No. Did they stop the affordable care act, which goes into full effect today? No. Did they prove to the vast majority of Americans how immature and inflexible they are? Likely.

No One Of Consequence
West Jordan, UT

"Boehner, R-Ohio, could have proposed a straight funding bill in the House, which would pass with bipartisan support, Matheson said."

The President and congressional democrats could have proposed honest health care reform instead of the unfolding disaster of the Un-Affordable Care Act.

The pain that will be felt in Utah and across the country is nothing compared to what will ensue as the ACA unfolds.

RedneckLefty
St. George, UT

Shame on Lee and Chaffetz for their rank dishonesty. The Constitution says that laws become laws when they pass through the legislative, executive, and judicial branches. There's no mention of this fourth "do-over" branch of government that Chaffetz and Lee seem to think exists in the budget-approval process.

Can you imagine the chaotic precedent the Republicans are trying to set? No matter if legislation is voted in by the house and senate, signed into law by the president, and declared constitutional by the supreme course, if you don't like it, just stamp your feet and throw a tantrum until you get your way. Is this the way laws are supposed to be made in the USA now? Do we need to update that Schoolhouse Rock cartoon about how a bill is made into law, to reflect this new "rightwing do-over tantrum" stage of legislative deliberation?

It's like a kid freaking out in a grocery store over a piece of candy, hoping mom will finally just cave out of embarrassment and give in.

The Hammer
lehi, utah

Democrats are likely to overplay their hand on this one. The republican response has been consistent and proactive. If Harry Reid continues with his rude tirades and doesn't work to resolve the issues he will likely be blamed as the main culprit in this fiasco along with the president and Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz has backed off though and is letting Boehner take the lead which will likely lead people to see the president and Harry as too rigid and extreme to comprise on a very practical idea to delay a law that is just not ready for prime time. I'm astounded to say this but Ted Cruz is actually going to come out of this a superstar and a leader. I don't like him but he has guts and thats what we need.

Informed Voter
South Jordan, UT

Yes, there will be an impact, but when will voters across the nation demand dems and repubs to put the country before the party and act responsibly? NOTE: Harry Reid and the Democrat Senate refuse to compromise. The Republicans in the House have offered more than one solution, and Harry said "No way" because he thinks he can blame Republicans for the shutdown. The media blames repubs and does not report that dems flat out refuse to compromise. Plus the Senate has not presented a budget for several years!

DistantThunder
Vincentown, NJ

Wow - keeping the parks closed through "Oct. 1" will cost 1 billion dollars? For one day? So much angst shows we are much too dependent on the federal government. It makes no sense to send tax money to the Feds, let them take a big cut, and then expect to get more back. It's an extortion system of epic proportions. We are in an abusive relationship with our government.

My2Cents
Taylorsville, UT

Its about time this shutdown and it be enforced. What we see by this DN confession is thet Utah has its share of federal pork and over draft spending of federal funds. Americans will sacrifice and give up freebies we don't want or need.

This shutdown is cutting off non essential governemnt funds. And as the list shows, we have more than our share of federal waste to shut down.

Even Romney has finally come on line and admitted that the ACA health care is broken spending and it does include the Utah exchange system as part of the Obama care meltdown. Romany agrees that socialized health care is not doable or logical and non sustainable.

Anyone hoping to sign on to the ACA will find it hard to do, none of the insurance companies can do it yet. Utah is offering its fraudulent program in an illegal attempt to keep Obamacare alive.

Federal or state health care are not sustainable and Utah cannot deny the elderly and those entitled by age to any health care under medicaid or medicare. Medicaid and Medicare are independent trust funds not affected by the shutdown of government waste.

IMAPatriot2
PLEASANT GROVE, UT

I have a wild idea. Why not leave the government shut down in place until the national debt is paid off? That would benefit all of us and have little impact on anyone but those who collect fat government salaries. I'll bet we could get volunteers to do the work necessary to keep the "national" parks and monuments open.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

Last month, my spouse and I charged some new furniture for the living room. Then we went to the movies (charged also). My cell phone and cable bills also are paid thru the credit card.

This month, the bill came and she handed it to me to be paid.
I refused to pay it unless she dyed her hair red and lost 25 pounds.

I just might be GOP material after all.

Ricardo Carvalho
Provo, UT

I tend to vote Republican in many races and on most issues. Having said that, I am deeply disappointed in my representation for their obstruction of forward-looking government. You come across as sore losers when we need real statesmen and women.

Whoa Nellie
American Fork, UT

No, we're frustrated over everything promoted by Obama and Henchman Harry.

Bruce A. Frank
San Jose, CA

Would it be insensitive of me to suggest that those complaining about the shut down who are actually employed by the Federal government, consider looking for a job in the private sector? Truly, how does this differ from a Union strike where people may go for weeks without pay to get benefits they think they deserve?

The government under Obama has grown by hundreds of thousands of employees which is partially but directly indicative of the problem of over-spending by government. Obamacare alone is adding tens of thousands of NEW regulations and exorbitant tax increases and actual fines if we don't buy the mandated insurance. The cost to the taxpayer runs into the trillions.

My only question about the shutdown is, how long before the legislators' paychecks are cut and THEY start looking for jobs which don't require sucking the blood from the taxpayer's necks. BTW, do you really believe it is a health care program when doctors quit and 16 thousand new IRS agents are hired?

DaveRL
OGDEN, UT

Governor Herbert be sure to thank Senator Lee & Congressman Chaffetz for the shut down.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

How can the tea party force its will without inflicting pain. Elections and our system of government don't work for them.

Esquire
Springville, UT

I'm sorry, but I really don't want to hear about Utahns being frustrated with the shutdown. Utah elected four Congressmen who are strong supporters of this childish extortion attempt. And Utah will re-elect them or more just like them. Utah is getting exactly what it asked for. What a deep, deep shame.

davidmpark
Salt Lake City, UT

This Federal partial shutdown is enough proof that Utah is far too dependent and is under too much control from the Feds. Over 70% of our land is Fed owned, and all of it Fed controlled. I would even go so far as to say the Feds conquered Utah in the 1870's, and we remain conquered today. Far too many here make their wealth from the Feds; not just the welfare recipients - the bureaucrats who make $50,000 + benefits more than the handicapped person who is forced into abject poverty.

We need self-reliance - not whining that big daddy won't shell out the cash.

Gildas
LOGAN, UT

Blame the American people. Most of us don't want the proffered health care system. Most of us, of either party or none, are also ticked off at the waivers granted to congressmen, union workers and big corporations. How to stop the juggernaut? Only one way at this point apparently; don't fund it.

Blame a wise system of checks and balances. This system will not allow a president, a Senate, or a House to have it all their own way. When the first two dig in their heels and refuse meaningful discussion the third also digs in its heels.

Reader
Sandy, UT

I think President Obama is a weak leader, but I also believe the Tea Party is killing the Republican Party with its extreme right wing agenda.

Ranch
Here, UT

"I do know that we're likely to blamed for it even though the Democrats are the ones who are really shutting the government down," he said.

Don't be daft, Orrin. You're party IS responsible. If you don't like the law, you change it through legislation, not refusing to fund it.

Republicans are definitely the source of this shutdown and you can bet that Americans know it full well.

Aggielove
Cache county, USA

Shut it down, and when you start it back up, forget about 90% of it.

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