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Published: Monday, Sept. 30 2013 4:44 p.m. MDT

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spring street
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

So defaulting on our existing loans is government being responsible?

patriot vet
Cedar City, UT

@LDS Liberal...My friend, liberals would not call me a liberal, and conservatives would not call me a conservative. I'm politically moderate.

You wrote the ACA was:

"passed by the House,
passed by the Senate,
Signed by the President,
and upheld by the Supreme Court."

I won't argue your point. But my point was that no matter what the outcome of our Constitutional process, we must defend it (the process).

MemoFromA Demo
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

To Patriot Vet in Cedar City:

You wrote, -- "The Republicans have a 54%-46% majority in the House, the Democrats have a 53%-47% majority in the Senate. Therefore, the Legislative Branch is split 50-50. The Executive Branch is Democrat. Common sense tells us that the Democrats have a 75%-25% edge over the Republicans in the Government.

Lets do the math: 435 House seats in the house = 235 Republican and 200 Democrats. 100 seats in the Senate = 47 Republicans and 53 Democrats (including two Independents). My math tells me there are more elected Republicans in the Legislative Branch than Democrats, -- 282 to 253.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

patriot vet

Cedar City, UT

I won't argue your point. But my point was that no matter what the outcome of our Constitutional process, we must defend it (the process).
4:27 p.m. Sept. 30, 2013

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Agreed.

I am a Veteran myself.
I have sworn the oath to protect the Constitution.

There are ALOT of things I disagree with about our Government,
but when guys Senator Mike Lee, Cruz and the rest of the comedians in Congress trample the Constitution and our Democratic process, by usurping the vote and holding America hostage...
is something I WILL fight.

If they don't like ACA or anything else for that matter,
rally the troops,
state your case,
and get public support and the VOTES to change things.

Shutting Down our Government, ignoring laws passed by all 3 branches of Government is just plain wrong -- regardless of who's doing it or for what reason.

DanO
Mission Viejo, CA

There should be no compromise, this isn't about the budget, this is about paying what's already due. The House spent the money and they need to pay the bills. I can't get a car loan then tell the bank I'll only pay them if they give me something additional.

Besides, the House isn't doing the will of the people as they claim. A new poll by The Morning Consult just out today shows only 33% believe that the health law should be repealed, delayed, or defunded. People want it to go into effect and to be improved.

DavisMan
Clearfield, UT

Well now, isn't this another fine mess Americans have gotten themselves into. Yes, we got what we wanted by voting this group of cry baby, do nothing for Americans into office. Get over it and get it done already.

kattawn
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Why hasn't Senator Hatch been in DC voting?

Kay The LDS
Lacey, WA

Congress needs more Libertarians.

Aggielove
Cache county, USA

I love to hear tye liberals wine. Need some cheese?

Carnak
Salt Lake City, UT

Shut it down.

Rosco
SANDY, UT

I am disgusted with both parties. Neither feels the need to govern responsibly. What business would wait until the last day to secure funding to meet its obligations? Our politicians are an embarrassment. They bicker and point fingers--spending most of their time calculating the votes their actions win or lose. I cannot imagine anyone from either party not recognizing that some of the blame for today's absurd deadlock is their own fault. The citizenry of the country are getting what they deserve—we elected the bums and must live with the consequences. Anyone see any value to term limits/campaign funding reform?

Doogie
South Jordan, Utah

It seems to me that Congress is not listening to their constituents and it will come back to haunt them. Senator Cruz will be the star in all this as he has adamantly fought to defund Obamacare before the trainwreck actually happened. There are going to be a lot of unhappy citizens once this mess is enacted. Public Opinion and polls have indicated that more than half the country is against Obamacare and that number will only rise as this law unfolds. Seems to me that we have a bunch of anarchists in Washington that aren't listening and don't care to listen. They just like to appear like they are and then they do what they want. Hopefully the repercussions from all this will turn the tide away from the progressives. What a joke.

embarrassed Utahn!
Salt Lake City, UT

Orrin Hatch's slogan "Utah's Time to Lead".....That is hilarious! The Elder Statesman with all the experience sits by and does nothing. What an embarrassment Utah's senators are! Of course that's only my opinion. I know they're both wildly-popular with most Utahns.

David
Centerville, UT

For Obama and the Democratic Party its all about power and politics, rather than serving the people. Its no secret that Obama and Reid have wanted to shut the government down because they feel Republicans would be blamed by the media and by Americans.

This from a president who closed White House tours. He just wants to stick it to Americans and the Republican party.

one old man
Ogden, UT

For John Boehner, Mitch McConnell and the Republican Party its all about power and politics, rather than serving the people. Its no secret that Republican extremists have wanted to shut the government down because they feel Democrats would be blamed by the media and by Americans.

This from a Congress that closed White House tours and many other traditional activities through an ill-advised stunt called sequestration. Republicans just wants to stick it to Americans and the Democratic party.

But as far as actually trying to solve America's challenges? Won't happen if they have anything to say about it.

Mighty Mouse
Salt Lake City, Utah

The nation is heading for a train wreck with Obama care. It will increase, not decrease health care costs. It will increase not decrease insurance costs. It will decrease, not increase access to health care. Many unions recognize the looming disaster and have withdrawn support. Still, the President and the Democrats in the Senate have refused to negotiate as they did when they unilaterally rammed Obamacare down the throats of Americans in the first place. The House Republicans are using the only leverage they have. I see the poll numbers quoted in the comments but I don't personally know anyone who still really thinks Obamacare is good for America. Under Regan, the Democrats shut down the government 12 different times. Like it or not, this is what checks and balances looks like and it is a good thing for America.

John C. C.
Payson, UT

For those who claim that the Affordable Care Act is a bad idea, please include this in your calculations. When most poor Americans finally get some degree of basic health coverage there will be a significant drop in those going to local emergency rooms. An ounce of prevention will be worth more than a pound of cure. The overall costs of health care will drop.

TRUTH
Salt Lake City, UT

ACA is not about healthcare? Is about TAXING Americans MORE! It's about power and robbing from the hard working and giving to the DC bureaucrats! .....McCain/Obama/Reid/Pelosi/Hatch are all on in the same! Lee and Cruz are the new hope and change!

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@patriot vet

You wrote the ACA was:

"passed by the House,
passed by the Senate,
Signed by the President,
and upheld by the Supreme Court."

I won't argue your point.

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Why would you? That's like arguing 1 + 1 equals 2.

If Obamacare is as bad as Romneycare then Republicans should be giddy for the next election cycle. They can clean sweep the next elections.

jimmy62
hickory, NC

SHUT IT DOWN, I know these overpaid lightweights are tired and old, so they need a rest for all the hard work they do up there in the big building.

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