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Published: Sunday, Sept. 29 2013 6:40 p.m. MDT

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apm22
sparks, NV

I love how fighting the establishment is always a "loser" of a fight. At least, that is true for those who gain politically from saying so. Are we all starting to realize that the dance between the D's and the R's is only calculated to divide our nation and keep and gain more control of government?

Tators
Hyrum, UT

@ Christoph and other liberals:

What you mentioned did happen. Now lets take a look at what currently is happening. Many of the people who were originally in favor of Obamacare no longer want it. Previously, very little was known about it. This 2400 page bill was ramrodded through a Democrat Congress (both Senate and House) in record time... before anyone even knew what was in it. Now that specifics are coming to light, the majority of people are suffering buyers remorse. Literally all polls now indicate the majority of Americans are now opposed to it. Shouldn't the will of the people count for something?

Where do you think the extra money is going to come from to make all this extra health care "affordable"? It won't be growing on trees. Some people are going to see their insurance costs more than double... especially young, healthy Americans. There is absolutely no way the federal government could administer a program this huge without adding substantial costs. Contrary to what Obama wants you to realize, this truly will be the most expensive bill in the history of our country. Socialism at it's best... or rather it's worst.

IMAPatriot2
PLEASANT GROVE, UT

LDS Liberal from Farmington, UT asked: "Why are you trampling the Constitution? The Post Office is Constitutionally required."

The post office is not constitutionally required. It is constitutionally allowed. Times have changed and snail mail isn't the favorite OR the most effective method of communication with others. I suspect you don't use it all that much either.

"My guess is you don't need or want ACA [Obamacare] because you are already retired and living quite comfortably on "Social Engineering Projects" like Social Security and Medicare."

You are correct, I don't need Obamacare and I am retired. FYI, I pay for my medical insurance and I contributed much more than I will ever get from Social Security and Medicare. If I had been able to use my money to invest, instead of being forced to contribute to these social engineering programs, I would have a MUCH BETTER RETIREMENT today.

Of course, to those who believe, as you do, that people are incapable of making their own decisions and planning for the future, these programs are absolutely necessary. How long have you been receiving unemployment compensation?

JoeCapitalist2
Orem, UT

Although the Republican party platform (personal liberty, limited government, free market economics) are much more aligned with my personal ideals than the Democratic party platform; I have become more and more disallusioned with too many Republican senators and congressmen who seem to just pay lip service to that platform while ever expanding government intrusion into our lives (albeit at a slower pace than their democratic collegues).

It is becoming more and more obvious that the Republican party cares no more about small government than the Democratic party cares about the poor. It is just empty words that are used to get votes while acting in ways that are contrary to their campaign promises.

gharmons
Helendale, CA

While some who are called RINOs don't deserve it, Huntsman does. His opinion simply doesn't influence me at all. His definition of compromise is to give 95% to the Dems in exchange for 5%.

What in Tucket?
Provo, UT

I guess it is a forlorn hope to try to get so me fiscal sanity in our government.

docport1
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John Huntsman was and is the only Republican who has enough gumption to say what he actually believes instead of what the Tea Party and the far right thinks he's supposed to believe. The Koch brothers don't own Huntsman like they do most other Republicans. When you have money and a brain you are a dangerous entity. When you don't have a brain and you need money then you surrender to the far right.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

"True conservatives are still a formidible political force in this country. "

Not really, just a bunch of radio fans whom rabidly repeat what they here from their command station of misinformation.
I mean really, how many time can it be refuted that "congress is not exempt" and still have the same True Conservatives repeat it ad nauseam along with other fact free information here daily.

"True conservatives" don't seem to care that they are tools of their radios or they would not keep repeating easily refutable tales.

Kimber
Salt Lake City, UT

So True Governor Huntsman. It would be good for people to evaluate what your party is trying to do...(deny insurance for millions of people?) Thank you. I hope you try a run for President again. Good Job!

Redshirt1701
Deep Space 9, Ut

To "LDS Libertarian" you are wrong on many ponts.

First, most Americans identify themselves as conservative, according to Gallup.

Second, most Americans DO NOT support Obamacare.

To "BlueHusky" the Doctrine and Covenants explains to us that you can't force others to care for the poor, but that it should be voluntairy. It also teaches us that a man should do all in his power to provide for his family.

Anti Bush-Obama
Washington, DC

Happy Valley Heretic.

"I mean really, how many time can it be refuted that "congress is not exempt"

Rand Paul's bill that forbids congress from being exempt should pass quite easily then.

Anti Bush-Obama
Washington, DC

Anti Government

"Huntsman? Just a political chameleon who will literally say/do anything to gain power. These politicians sell their souls, integrity, and everything else for power. They are drunk on it and will do anything to maintain it and that generally goes for both parties."

I agree with this 100%. If people actually held them accountable and not let them tell them how to feel and what to think, these parasites will have no power over us.

Something to think about
Ogden, UT

I don't believe for one minute we'd be in the mess we're in if Huntsman would have won the Republican nomination and defeated President Obama. Huntsman is a pragmatist! He gets it!

It's too bad Romney had all the money and Huntsman had all the ideas/answers. We, America, missed out!

I'm hoping for another Huntsman run! He's got my vote!

Anti Bush-Obama
Washington, DC

I also believe Huntsman would've been telling the colonials back in the revolution. To sit down and accept taxation without representation.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

What you conservatives don't understand is that 1/4 of the people who oppose Obamacare oppose it because it's not liberal enough. They don't want to repeal it in favor of something more conservative. More people in polls blame Republicans for a shutdown than Democrats. Almost 70% view congressional republicans as spoiled children while the numbers are over 10 points lower for Democrats and obama. You're turning off independents and... actually forget it. You know what, shut down the gov't. If you all want to stand by principles where deliberately harming the economy is considered better than deliberately harming Americans by taking away health insurance then go right on ahead. We'll see how many people agree with you.

JBQ
Saint Louis, MO

The struggle over ObamaCare appears to have only solution A and solution B. There has to be a solution C which may include a run by a third party ticket based on the labor movement.

Herbert Gravy
Salinas, CA

The real "loser" will be the hard working American taxpayer. Mr. Huntsman will learn, along with all the rest of us, that "affordable" health care is not affordable. The chickens will come home to roost!

BigBuddha
Chandler, AZ

I know the Tea Party is true. I know Mike Lee is the Leader .I know that everything Ted Cruz says is the Truth In the name ofthe United States of America ... AMEN

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

The shut down spinners want to do away with the respect for law and procedure in a fit hysteria building for four years. Juveniles get over it faster than tea party persons.

southmtnman
Provo, UT

@patriot,

"let me guess... you think Barack Obama is the best thing going...Am I right??"

Nope. I've been a Republican for my entire life, and it is people like you with your simple-minded stereotypes that give us a bad name.

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