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Published: Monday, Sept. 30 2013 4:26 p.m. MDT

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paper rose
vernal, UT

What about the Victims? Did the victims get to keep there life!!!! no they got a death sentence.
And so should the killers be put to death. an EYE for an EYE.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

the truth: "It is about punishing a murderer for their murderous crimes."

Eye for an eye was primitive at the time Christ relinquished it with "turn the other cheek."
Probably not as popular with anger management crowd but it was "His" policy.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

Until the justice system is much much better...
"The first DNA exoneration took place in 1989. Exonerations have been won in 36 states; since 2000, there have been 244 exonerations."

That's 244 people who would have been murdered by the state who were innocent, just since 2000.

The innocent can't be collateral damage in your bloodlust.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@procuradorfiscal
"It's simply disingenuous to declare that DNA evidence has "exonerated" anyone."

DNA evidence absolutely has exonerated people and occasionally even led to the actual criminal being held to account rather than the one they originally locked away for it.

Shawnm750
West Jordan, UT

@SLC BYU Fan - I think it's a little bold to assert the church's position (or impending position) on this subject, especially since in the BoM they actually executed people (by order of the church) who were intentionally leading church members astray. I'm just sayin'...

On the one hand, I think that as a society we have an obligation to give people a chance to make restitution, and even try to turn their lives around. I understand the argument that opponents make about the execution of the murderer just adding to the list of people who died in association with the original crime.

On the other hand, is it fair to we members of society to be forced to pay for these criminals to be incarcerated for the rest of their lives? Especially if we're going to implement "Life without Parole" as the alternative.

Ultimately, I think the whole corrections system needs an overhaul. Incarceration needs to either truly facilitate rehabilitation (where possible,) or act a true deterrent. Maybe bring back the old concept of hard labor...

the truth
Holladay, UT

@Happy Valley Heretic

Exactly where does say it say it applies to murder?

It doesn't!

Strider303
Salt Lake City, UT

Having some experience with the criminal justice system as it relates to the unintended death of a family member in a traffic accident I can identify with the desires of family to get the sadness out of their lives and "move on" as it were.

However as a member of the community or society I feel there is a need for a sense of justice to prevail in our community life. When the people as a whole feel that those charged with enforcement of laws are not fulfilling their responsibilities, the is the sense that something is wrong.

The legal profession has morphed into a haven for the more intellectually capable social workers among us.

We see graffiti scribblers go unpunished, crimes of property and even assault plea bargained to little if any incarceration, protective orders are a farce, drunk/impaired driving is winked at, all of which fuels the public's sense that justice is not found in the legal system. It has become a reality show called "Let's Make a Deal".

Focus on the victim, the criminal is not a victim he/she is a perpetrator. IMO.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

As a person opposed to the death penalty, shut utah government down until it is take off the books are defunded.

Ranch
Here, UT

@Gildas;

A few cells dividing do not a human being make. Simply because fertilization has occurred doesn't mean it's a human. That takes approximately 9 months.

How many innocent people should be killed in order to put one guilty one to death? Too many "confessions" are made under duress. It's amazing what you can get people to confess to when you grill them for hours on end.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

the truth said:
@Happy Valley Heretic Exactly where does say it say it applies to murder? It doesn't!

Um it says it lots of places, and the punishment is the same for eating shell fish, so keep picking and choosing to make God in your image, not the one Christ spoke of.

the truth
Holladay, UT

@Happy Valley Heretic

Christ fulfilled the law of Moses. Christian do not follow the law of Moses.

Again give me ONE new testament verse about treating murderers.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

He said nothing about it, so I default to his greatest teachings and back to you.
What did Christ say about capital punishment...?

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