"Granted, BYU’s foe was not Utah, nor did the Blue Raider defense look
anything like what the Cougars will face next week in Logan against Utah
State." -- Dick Harmon"You'll recall the Ute starters
were pulled at halftime against Weber, but Hill played late in the game against
Directional State." -- JohnInSLCExcellent statements by
both.And YbU poster trolls, know this: there was no bragging or
beating of chests after the Weber State tune up game, as you proclaim from the
0-4 cheap seats in Happy Valley. In reality, there were thousands of empty
seats in RES, because fans from both teams knew in advance there wasn't a
real game taking place that day. We were expected to annihilate Weber State
High by a huge margin, which we did (with our starters actually out of the game
at halftime). Same as the Aggies crushing of Weber State High. YbU, on the
other hand, didn't even beat Directional State by 40 points, and were in
fact down after the first quarter, with starters playing late in the game.
Lucky for LES season ticket holders, caffeine-free Diet Coke was still on tap!
Uteology"Since then the above statements about Wilson and our
offense have been proven to be correct."And how do you know that
BYU fan statements about Hill and BYU's improved offense won't be
"Ummm....getting castigated for playing a weaker team from Utah fans? What?
How short an your memory be? Weber State?"Biff:You'll recall the Ute staters were pulled at halftime against Weber, but
Hill played late in the game against Directional State. And have you forgotten
the other weak team remaining on the y's schedule? Idaho State? You're
still the Kettle.
@Just the FAXMy opinion of Wilson wasn't only based from the
Weber State game. How did Wilson do in the Utah State game, against a good
defense? Going into the season I thought Hill looked like a better
QB while Wilson struggled in his freshman year. My opinion of Wilson's
ability from last years struggles changed in the Utah State game. Wilson beat
Utah State with his arm, with big plays. He lead his team back after being down
21-14 with 300+ yards passing and QB rating of 175.Since then the
above statements about Wilson and our offense have been proven to be correct.
Wilson's been rated a top 25 QB since game one.I compared Weber
State game with a Wilson/Erickson lead offense to Northern Colorado game with
Wynn/Jonson lead offense. IMO the Wilson/Erickson offense was really
Y Grad / Y DadRichland, WAUteologyEast Salt Lake City,
UtahTell me something about ucla. Or better yet, tell me something
about OSU.-------------Why, does Air Force Lite play
them next?Instead I will tell you something about the team we beat,
the team you play next Utah State. You better hope that the baby
steps Hill took are for real. Because you'll need the passing game to beat
a legit Utah State team. Which beat the real Air Force rushing attack by 32
points on the road. USU defense is ranked #24 in the country, they held AFA to
270 total yards (162 rushing and 108 passing).As far as Utah,
we'll be just fine if our offense plays like we did against OSU and our
defense plays like when we played BYU. We've proven we have a offense and
defense that can beat a decent team, see Utah State.
Turtles RunAt this rate of over inflated self-confidence building,
UCLA, Stanford, Arizona, USC, ASU, Oregon, WSU, and Colorado are going to steam
"At this rate of overinflated self confidence building USU, BSU, ND, and
Wisconsin are going to steam roll BYU."You forgot Houston.
UteologyThen (September 7th),"This [Utah's win
versus Weber St] was REALLY IMPRESSIVE when compared to last years win over
North Colorado. The offense seems to have improved. So far in two
games I am impressed with Wilson and his ability to make big plays."and now (September 28th),"Hill did improve his passing
game, but it was against a team that has one of the worst passing defenses in
the country (according to Rivals). I guess baby steps is all BYU
fans can hope for."btw, in their last four game, Weber St had
been outscored 214-23; even McNeese St (43-6) and Sacrament St (31-3) stomped
the Wildcats, yet Utah fans were singing the praises of Utah's
"impressive" win over Weber St, while BYU's "improvement"
versus MTSU has to be qualified as nothing but "baby steps" against weak
competition.The inconsistency of the BYU haters is hilarious.
Ummm....getting castigated for playing a weaker team from Utah fans? What? How
short an your memory be? Weber State? Pot. Meet Kettle.
add easy completions to every game plan.
Those predicting a "Heisman Worthy" performance by Chicky, might want to
check out his output the last time out against a BYU defense. It's hard
the thrown when your back is on the ground. I do think BYU will need to score
more than the Brandon Doman typically 6 points, but give up 500 yards passing 27
touchdowns and 300 yards and 5 touchdowns to Chicky, as predicted by the few
Aggie fans and the SLC media, don't think so.
Why can't a Socrates coached team play a complete game? Good grief, please
tell Nike to stop putting goose grease on the ball, and JD as a returner, no way
keep him at WR. Two gifts to the opponent is enough. No Virginia, a nice return
does not cause any football people to have confidence in the guy. And don't
think JD will not think of his miscues next time that ball comes sailing'
his way. All you can say is: "It's a win". The ticky tack, honor
code violations are a joke, and no I'm not taking The Whittingham Whitewash
Company type non- response, but talking the issue through sans a game suspension
unless someone decides to do something discusting like offend an entire
@NevadaCoug"A "predictable" offense can still be
successful if it is executed precisely."Here's my problem
with that statement. BYU is not an elite team. Teams like Oregon and Alabama and
LSU can get away with predictability because they have the "horses" to
make it work. During the Lavell Edward years BYU was able to compete (at least
offensively) with anyone because of their unique and unpredictable passing
style. It leveled the playing field against teams with the premier athletes. For
the most part, no amount of proper execution will compensate for the fact that
the guy on the other side of the line of scrimmage is just plain stronger and
faster than you. However, great coaching, unpredictability in play calling, and
using a wide array of weapons can balance the game in your favor, despite an
uneven talent level.@YGradYDad"Glad to see putting words
in BYU fans's mouths, then berating them for what you imagined they said,
has not gone out of style."Amen, brother. I, too, get weary of
the inane "straw man" arguments from JJJHS, et al.
I think we can all agree that Hill was better last night than previously, but
that it was against an easier opponent and so it doesn't tell us much. The
real test will be next week against a good USU team. No doubt Hill has plenty of
potential, but that needs to translate into him making accurate throws and
beating a team with his arm, not just his legs. If USU follow's Utah's
game plan, I don't think we beat them. (Sorry, BYU, but after breaking my
heart so many times I have started to expect heartbreak.)
I don't care if Hill wins with his legs. If he gets the pass game going,
it will make him even more dangerous with his legs.
I love Utah fans who think BYU is going to be 'steamrolled' by a
number of teams. Talk about pot calling kettle black. I have news for U. You
beat BYU by 7. Not exactly a steamroll. Again it's your highlight of the
year. I feel sorry for Kyle because it's his BYU games that help him keep
his job. For the next two years no more BYU and a lot more job insecurity.
Let's see how things go these next few weeks before you use the term
'steamrolled'. I do think you will see it at least once in Eugene,
Oregon. You will play the roll of the pavement.
UteologyEast Salt Lake City, UtahTell me something about ucla.
Or better yet, tell me something about OSU.
Cougars did what they needed to do in order to get the sloppy win against a very
good team with a lot of athleticism. In order to beat the Aggies, BYU is going
to have to play much better than they did last night. I do think the Cougars D
will be much better than the Utes at getting to Keaton and disrupting his
timing. The Utes gave Keaton all the time in the world to find the open man.
BYU will not.I do think USU is the better team in this one, and
should be favored. If BYU pulls out the win it will help Hill gain more
confidence in his receivers. Go Cougars!
NevadaCougOverton, NVA "predictable" offense can still
be successful if it is executed precisely.See: Air Force------------The goal was to become Notre Dame of the West, not Air
A "predictable" offense can still be successful if it is executed
precisely.See: Air Force
Its just like a shooter in basketball making a layup, slam dunk or free throws.
Sure its not that hard to do those things but it build the confidence and helps
later on. BYU will be fine, they will beat bsu, lose to wisconsin and the notre
dame game is a toss up. USU right now scares me. Hopefully the receivers can
get open and hill can get them the ball. If he throws for 50 percent or better
Hill did improve his passing game, but it was against a team that has one of the
worst passing defenses in the country (according to Rivals). I guess
baby steps is all BYU fans can hope for.
The Aggies will defeat the Cougars next week. They are a better offensive team
with a stronger, passing QB.
Nice to get Bert and Ernie's comments from the cheap seats. Glad to see
putting words in BYU fans's mouths, then berating them for what you
imagined they said, has not gone out of style.I think the team, and
most of the fans, are aware that "state" and "university" are
the only things this week's and next week's opponents have in common.
Chuckie is the real deal, and while I have confidence in our ability to manage
the run game, his passing will challenge our secondary.But is it
really so difficult to acknowledge that Taysom has NOT been as accurate a passer
this season as he has been in the past, and therefore there is at least an even
chance that his passing will improve?I am looking forward to,
hopefully, a good game against a more than worthy foe. Next week would be an
excellent time to cut way down on the mental mistakes!
Taysom Hill, the greatest running back the school's ever seen! I've
seen enough of this non-imaginative "up tempo" stuff.
As usual, BYU fans overwhelmingly celebrate a win over a directional community
college is going to be a "confidence booster" and "Taysom shows
improvement". At this rate of overinflated self confidence building USU,
BSU, ND, and Wisconsin are going to steam roll BYU.
I am not sold on our offensive scheme. Way too predictable and simple. USU
will beat us if Anae continues to be so predictable. Utah shut down our run
game because they knew what play was coming, and I think Taysom is still
struggling with making the right read. He could have run the ball a lot more for
big yards because MTSU was crashing their DE all the time.Also on
passing plays it was not uncommon to see only one receiver out on a pattern.
What is up with that? Also when Taysom has to scramble the receivers are loafing
or standing around instead of sprinting to the open spot, especially Apo. The
blocking from the receivers was excellent, however.
Please, no more suspensions! We need Cody Hoffman in next week's game
against Utah State. Whenever I get frustrated with Taysom Hill, I am reminded of
Steve Young and his slow start as a sophomore at the Y. He also ran with the
ball and was slow to connect with the pass. It worked out well with him; I have
high hopes for Taysom. He's a great young man and will prove to be a great
QB with more experience and confidence.Ball security is an issue,
for sure. I think some valuable lessons were learned last night with dropped
balls! Adding Jamaal Williams back in the mix next week will give this team a
lot of confidence with his dynamic presence and plays. Seeing other players come
forth with great plays (Matthews #10, Brown #24, etc.) was encouraging.Go Cougars!
Dick, you seem to be way down on Hill. You forget Hill is inexperienced and has
more upside than any QB BYU has had in years in my opinion. People just have
to be patient. You can definitely see his strong arm and legs. He will get
This game really gives us nothing. BYU was favored by three and a half
touchdowns for cring out loud. The blueprint was laid last week, USU needs to
stop the run game of Hill and force him to use his arm. Stack the box and play
containment football. The cougars will not be facing an East high-esk team next
week. The question is are you ready for talent like Chuckie? Can you play on
the road? Can BYU win against a decent team?
Hope this was a confidence booster. Glad to see the cougars win one
convincingly. Turnovers a huge concern. Should move Hill out of the bottom 2 QBs
in almost every category. After next weeks loss, hope to see the wins start