@Brahmabullwell...if you like how millsap and jefferson play...i
guess you liked the mediocrity of their games as well...Millsap...is good but
not great...better of as a 6th man...Al Jefferson...even with his plethora of
low post moves...he really doesnt have much to offer on D...and with his style
of play...it brings a team down...since majority of the ball possession would be
in his hands...trying to create for himself...rather than having the ball
rotate...post-repost....and hit the open man...Al Jefferson most of the time
forces his shots....now i see your point that you think Kanter and Favors will
not get the job done...now...since they are both bigs with raw potential...it
takes time for them to grow...roy hibbert entered the league being a slow big
man...with not much offensive moves and gas out pretty quickly...and look at him
now...it takes time and commitment from the team to develop...these are some of
the reasons why i am excited...since i think Kanter and Favors when polished
could be a force...
Americanvet You can't come up with a coherent arguement so you
result to middle school style name calling. Smart. So then if I have a man crush
on Millsap and Jefferson because I like how they play, then you must have a man
crush on Favors, Hayward, Kanter, Burke, and Burks. Yes, yes you do.
SWWeatherGuyI have been a jazz fan, and only a jazz fan for my 31
years of life. I have been there through the good and the bad. So your
assumption is a little off.
Brahmabull: "So the answer was to replace mediocre vertrans with mediocre
youngsters? Right."First off, it's highly unlikely you are
a Jazz fan. My guess is a Nuggets fan or worse yet, a bandwagon Fakers or Bulls
fan.Secondly, if your question is sincere (which I doubt it is,) the
answer is absolutely yes! I don't consider the majority of the "young
guns" mediocre, at least in equal terms with the outgoing vets. Young and
inexperienced? Yes. Let me see, should I pay millions less for a much newer,
stock vehicle that performs about the same as my existing, older,
"built" vehicle? Absolutely, yes! Who knows how much better performing
I can make the newer, less expensive one when I actually invest in it and get it
on the track.
I'm excited for the season to begin...The 4 hour commute each
way from SG is a little much so I will have to settle for watching the season on
the big screen...However, I won't miss the
drive/park/dinner/game/drive to see the JAZZ in person win 30 games this year
while paying NBA ticket prices.Maybe next year...
It's just like in politics. Every decision you make will be supported by
some and criticized by others. But from the posts I read it seems most people
are excited for the season to begin, probably much more so than usual. With a
good attitude I think people will really enjoy Jazz basketball and watching this
team develop. I feel sorry for the critics because it seems they don't have
anything to look forward to and for them it will be a long year. Hopefully they
have something else to grab onto like hockey or something.
to the people commenting here...i think Brahmabull is just here to
flame...obviously he doesnt watch or know his baskeball...thinking we could get
a championship caliber lineup with the free agent pool this off season...if you
get free agents from this off season...best you can get is probably within the
top 5....or at 6th seed...and you won't reach the finals...he doesnt quite
fully understand the reasons why going young is a good option at this
point...most fans here...can see it...the brass wanted to know...if we really
have something with this young group of guys...and the best possible way to know
is to throw them the minutes...and let them play...trial by fire...the potential
for the core four is there...and once we get to see what this kids are made
of...then the brass can start to build from there....we have a ton of
flexibility...and sometimes other management mismanage this luxury...and being
patient...and looking first at what you got...is the most wisest decision
Lindsey has made
I am looking forward to watching the Jazz youngsters grow into the players I
believe they can become.The first 20 games of the upcoming season
might be rough to watch, but I am not going to be overly critical of the Jazz
players. They are going to make their mistakes; all I ask is that they learn
from them.My main concern this year isn't the players, but the
coaching, specifically the Head Coach. I hope Tyrone Corbin has learned from the
mistakes he made last year.
I think the problem I and other fans are having is that the Jazz have not even
attempted to sign a decent free agent. You can not simply develop all your
talent you must work on trading and signing names. Why must we settle on young
bench players? Vets help young guys to work harder and teach them things. We do
not have a good balance of good vets with a young core. I guess that is why I am
only a fan and not a coach or manager.
I don't think Bram is a Jazz fan. Just trying to stir us up.
I feel these three additions to the team will bolster our chances for a world
@brahmabullEveryone of the Jazz young players have shown promise. You
don't get invited to play on the U.S. Select Olympic team (Favors,Hayward)
unless you show great promise. When given a chance to play Kanter and Burks have
made things happen on the court. Trey Burke was the best point guard in the
draft this year and Ian Clark was the best player in summer league. These guys
don't look mediocre to me at all but they do need time on the floor.
That's what they will start to get now and I think you might soon get over
your man crush on Jefferson and Millsap.
Jazz SourceSo the answer was to replace mediocre vertrans with
mediocre youngsters? Right.
@BrahmabullThis decision isn't unproductive, every team typically
adds at least one player in this manner to try out at training camp. In the end
they typically only play in garbage time anyway. As for this
offseason, the Jazz plan is obvious. 1. Develop the young core while
filling out the team with expiring contracts (see: Golden State players) so that
they can afford raises to those players getting off of rookie contracts.2.
Silently hope the young core isn't too good too fast since they want to
tank this season.3. Get a high draft pick in a loaded draft.
re: BrahmabullSeriously? Since when does adding filler for training
camp roster constitute your offseason activity? These guys are nothing but
somebody to practice against.It astounds me with the clear direction
the team has demonstrated of going young, giving minutes, developing
chemistry/talent, and not keeping mediocre veterans to deliver more mediocrity
that some fans still can't seem to grasp the concept that there is not
going to be some big-money free agent showing up that will yet again deliver
mediocrity.The plan is to find out who is good and who isn't.
Then you unload who isn't and then you add in some complementary free
agents to flesh out the roster with whatever developing stars who have
demonstrated progress and upside.If you are not LA, NY, or Miami
then you simply are not able to attract the biggest name free agents which are
the only ones anyway that give you a shot in todays NBA. Outside of that the
rest just make you "competitive". You have to find, draft, and develop
some of your own stars/talent or you are toast.Get on/off the train
as it stands.
I was fourth on their list. I hope to get a phone call later this week.
Wow. The least productive offseason in jazz history just got indescribably
Ping pong balls. It's all about who can get the most ping pong balls.
These three look like they can help managemennt grenache that goal.
The Jazz need more than 15 players to go into camp...If only 15 go, they will
know they've all made it....Purpose in signing these three is to
instill some competition....Probability is that they will all be gone at the end
of training camp; however, that's not a given....so everybody better be
@forgetyourselfThe Jazz won't release the Warrior players because
they need their salaries in order to reach the minimum team salary requirement.
So unless the Jazz trade the Warrior players for other players in the same
salary range those guys will be around for the season until their contracts
expire. Next year they will likely be gone unless a player like Rush proves to
be back in the groove and over his injuries.
I think this is a sign that the Jazz are about to release the people acquired in
the Warriors trade. I hope that this means that they are still looking to
improve and not just settle for the youngest guys on the market. I know the Jazz
are a low key rebuilding team. I just hope that they just sign wisely.
What did you think people, that they were going to sign Lebron and Kobe to fill
out the training camp roster? The Jazz are taking a look at some guys that will
more than likely not be around when the season starts. To make this another
reason to critizise what the Jazz are doing is ridiculous. They're taking a
look at a couple of guys which is exactly what they are supposed to do. Now you
all go to your rooms and you're not getting your dinner!
Wow, how exciting. Yawn...
Never heard of them.
Who? The Jazz signed who?