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Published: Thursday, Sept. 26 2013 7:00 p.m. MDT

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Kings Court
Alpine, UT

"Rees strongly contested the notion that American education is doing better than we think, citing work by Jay Greene at the University of Arkansas. Greene, Reese writes, found that "'students in suburban public school districts were not only trailing their international peers, but … they were barely keeping pace with the average student in other developed countries.' Greene also observed that 'out of the nearly 14,000 public school districts in the U.S., only 6 percent have average student math achievement that would place them in the upper third of global performance."

Actually, a study was done to show that if America weeded out those students who were not college bound by the end of the 8th grade as the other developed countries do, America would be ranked in the top 3 in Science and Math. We are doing a very good job at educating all students as if they were college bound. That is something you don't see in any other education system in the Europe or Asia.

Howard Beal
Provo, UT

I think Ravitch needs to look no further than Utah as the microcosm of political forces ridiculing teachers and starving the system so much that the critics bring forth a self-fulfilling prophecy.

The testing nightmare needs to end, it has basically killed creativity in a sub-generation of students. Before it does every child in that started school in 2002 and after, it's time to pull the plug and save our children and in the end our country.

runnerguy50
Virginia Beach, Va

If she issaying most of the problems are because of poverty and out of wedlock children she is correct. Throwing more money at our education won't solve that problem. Out of wedlock birth rate leads to poverty and crime. It is the main problem in America today. Those who live in Utah do not see the problem like you would if an area like DC or Detroit. Education, entitlement programs, crime rates etc are all because of kids having kids. It is a problem that starts in the home and the govnt cannot fix it. It is breaking America down.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Our country does not reflect an educated society, yet we spend more money on education than all countries combined.

Education is simple:

* a classroom
* teacher
* chalkboard
* books
* paper, fine art supplies, & pencil

Everything else is a waste of time, and money.

Students should be a teacher to themselves. School, and the world becomes their resource.

Howard Beal
Provo, UT

I would throw in some technology worf. It is the way the world works. Many teachers are doing some good things with it. Like the chalkboard or a text, it is a tool that opens up the world much broader for the creativity you seem to have advocated strongly on these blogs for quite some time.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Good point. Some technology is great, but doesn't help students learn the times table, or division.

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