I imagine this is so that there are no tickets remaining for the woman's
group that wants to attend?
Trying to have it both ways, I suspect. What is the point of priesthood
meeting on TV if a man cannot gather his wife, sons, and daughters about him to
watch it at home on TV and then discuss it?
It's a great tradition for the men to come together and watch the
Priesthood Session. I can understand the Church leaders encouraging the men to
physically go to their buildings to watch the Priesthood Session. Here is my
next question: With satellite, Internet, Roku, etc. how many people actually go
to their local Stake Center to watch all the General Conference sessions? Has
this ever been an expectation in your ward or stake? If so, why?
It's to build a sense of unity among the Priesthood. It is also more of a
sacrifice which makes everything more worthwhile. I am glad for this
It's a tradition that I have no problem with if someone wants to follow it,
but to me there really isn't all that special. It's just a tradition.
I'll watch at home.
And if anybody misses it they can just think back to last conference... Odds are
it will be the same things that they say every priesthood session.
nonbeliever, your imagination fails you here. No one is going to stay home and
watch if they were planning to go to the Conference Center. Most priesthood
holders who were going to attend in their stake centers will now do so as well.
So, as I see it, this is an effort to keep Priesthood Meeting much the same for
those who hold the Priesthood, and to open up a new venue for viewing (live) by
those who do not.
The General Relief Society broadcast has been available online and later on
BYU-TV for years. Yet still many women gather at the stake center to watch it
together. (It helps when they bribe us with dinner before, too.) There's a
marvelous sense of unity in watching it together.There's also
the wonderful compromise of being able to watch it at home, too, which I did one
year shortly after I gave birth and wasn't about to drag a newborn to the
stake center.Priesthood sessions can be the same way. With such a
large population, with so many divergent needs, it's helpful for men to
view the session in whichever way works best for them that year. It's all good.
Watching conference sessions at home is a convenience that has gained some great
traditions in LDS homes. On the other hand, the General RS Meeting is this
Saturday -- including the annual accompanying dinner for the sisters served by
the brethren in supporting them in this opportunity to be together, united in
fellowship. They could watch at home. For some this is the only option. For
many, like myself, this is the first session of General Conference (as is a
similar event with similar support in April for YW) listened to/viewed
repeatedly/read online and in the conference report. Likewise the General
Priesthood meetings can be watched or listened to online (before now, after the
fact), as well as studied at home in the same manner. But also, there is the
chance to unite in fellowship together, eat ice cream and go out to dinner with
my son (and very soon, my grandson). It would be a shame to stay at home.
Tough choice...nod off on my couch at home, or nod off on a metal chair in a
dark gym. I wonder if my wife will still let me go out for ice cream after the
session if I stay home.
Is this to try and counter act priesthood session turning into a spending
holiday by the ladies? :)
I am sorry about the attitude problems of so many on this topic. We have two
stake centers within a half-mile and they each have greater than 400 in
attendance each General Priesthood meeting. I don't see that changing
I feel really sorry for the people (all 8 of them) who fail to catch the vision
of what this meeting represents. I have always gotten a lot out of these
meetings, and have appreciated the chance to take my sons or go with my dad.
Priesthood in our church is all about service and building up other people. When
I don't have that mindset, yes, it is just another meeting and a boring one
at that, sitting in a dimly lit chapel. When I have my heart in it, I am warmed
by the Spirit and feeling of brotherhood.I feel the love of the
leaders, appreciate their wisdom and am inspired by their reaching out to all of
us to lift us up. If all the world had fathers and sons who had the vision of
the priesthood, with love in their heart, we would have no broken families, no
one would be neglected, young men would have the mentorship to help them succeed
and all would feel the love of God.I invite you to get more
involved. There is someone out there who needs you.
I was thinking about going out of brotherhood, instead of watching from home.
Now I'll go.
My natural thought is that I would rather watch at home. However, I know that I
will pay more attention at the stake center vs another two hours on the couch.
It is a good experience for the young men to gather with their dads, brothers,
leaders and friends.Of course the frozen custard afterwards makes it
all worth while. My wife picks it up during priesthood so that we can avoid the
crowds after the meeting. Leads to good family discussions about what was said
in the meeting.
The Priesthood session is always my most favorite session of every general
conference. I'm not sure if opening it up to the general audience is a
good thing or not. I feel like the Church has capitulated to that small
minority of women who insist on being ordained to the priesthood too. And now
that the decision is made, I think Church leaders are now worried that a large
number of men would just opt to stay home and watch it with their families. Not
necessarily a bad thing but it sure takes away from the specialness of that
meeting. Hope most fathers and their sons will continue to go to the Conference
Center and their local chapels. I know I will with my own son.
>What is the point of priesthood meeting on TV if a man cannot gather his
wife, sons, and daughters about him to watch it at home on TV and then discuss
it?Oh, I don't know, maybe more immediate availability to the
multitude of members of the Church who live in areas of the world that
don't have Comcast or Dish, etc., and don't have the luxury of a
satellite feed at a local meetinghouse, but do have Internet access?Remember: Worldwide Church
I love going to the conference center for any of the sessions. There is a
tremendous spirit of unity, and a tremendous spirit of strength. The priesthood
session is always a favorite as I get to go with my sons. Though it is now
going to be broadcast directly into homes, I will still choose to take my sons
with me and go to either the conference center or to our stake center. It
provides me an opportunity to continue a righteous tradition, to be more
focuses, and to go out for icecream afterwards:).
Love the fact it's on TV now.There's a reason.And
it's not just convenient.Wives want to hear what there's husband
need to be doing better.Works for me.I need it.
Why? I would prefer to watch it at home.
Perhaps some of you have not lived outside UT in an area where some have to
drive an hour to get to the Stake Center. Think about those who may be
home-bound or sick or have a disability This now makes it possible for some to
participate and relieves a burden for others so they can participate. For those
of us who live close to a Chapel as most Utahns do is it too much to ask to
continue to go to the Stake Center.Brahmabull said "And if
anybody misses it they can just think back to last conference... Odds are it
will be the same things that they say every priesthood session." When I
recognize the repetitive themes I pay all the more attention and get the idea
that they are trying to tell me something. Henry B Eyring said in conference in
1997 "When the words of the prophets seem repetitive, that should rivet our
attention . . ."
#rd try (the DN censorship is ridiculous)Maybe some men aren't
excited by the idea of hanging out with a bunch of other men.
Traditionally the priesthood session has always been my favorite...It always
seems the talks are especially interesting. I like taking my sons ... It is a
good bonding time. I think we will continue to go to the stake center for the
I've discussed it with my 30, 27, and 16 year old sons and we are gathering
at my house to watch together instead of going to the stake center 2 blocks
away. I was actually a bit surprised that my older sons wanted to continue to
watch together, so that tradition lives on, just at a different location.This situation highlights how at times we create traditions for
tradition's sake and while there is some benefit to tradition there is also
the downside that we can't accept change--even beneficial change--due to
our traditions. I'm guessing the GAs figure that if left to exercise their
agency without any "encouragement" or "urging" from Church
Headquarters that some of the priesthood will stop watching entirely without the
structure of a suit, white shirt, tie and local meetinghouse to act as training
wheels on their spiritual journey. As such I am glad that the option of watching
at the meetinghouse is still going to be available for those that need said
assistance, and for those whose worshiping is enhanced by being surrounded by a
priesthood throng.But for me and my house...we're ordering
pizza and creating our newest tradition.
I now have a choice--drive 40 minutes to the Stake Center or stay home and watch
the Priesthood Session online. My wife does not have that choice. She will be
going to the Relief Society Meeting at the Stake Center because it isn't
broadcast at home.A priesthood quorum is about three things. It is a
service organization, an instructional class, and a brotherhood. A relief
society is a service organization, an instructional class, and a sisterhood.
While the general sessions of conference have long been available real time on
radio, TV, and online live, the Church has held off on the priesthood sessions
and the Relief Society (October)/ Young Women's (April) sessions of
conference to help foster that brotherhood or sisterhood.Of course,
not long after conference is over all 6 sessions of conference will be available
for download in their entirety and as I usually do, I will download all six and
listen to them on my 1 to 1.5 hour commute each way to work each day. 12 hours
will be listened to completely again within a week.I have
occasionally seen women in stake centers watching the priesthood session
throughout my life.
I'm excited that now a lot of disabled or financially challenged men who
travel great distance can enjoy Priesthood Meeting. The same is true for single
parent fathers who have to tend children. I'm equally grateful that the
men in my family can choose to attend. What a great choice! Thanks Brethren.
You silly naysayers and complainers.Can't you see this new
option is great and needful for people who are in the middle of nowhere? (like
the American man I know working on oil well sites in interior China.)Or the very older man I know who lives two doors down from his Stake
Center--but can't get out of bed?And for 'non
believer' and those snickering and wondering if it is so there are no seats
open for the ladies who are coming to try to crash the party at the Conference
Center and try to get the Prophet to loosen up and see sense....if there were
20,000 seats open, the ladies would still be politely refused.
A carefully crafted and maybe even spiritually confirmed appeasing of the
zealots as well as the progressive women's movement.
I believe if groups or mobs of angry people can generate conflict against even
the Messiah Himself and hang Him on a cross, then the self righteous spinsters
of today can easily gather in modern mobs and find fault with today's
mortal leaders. As for me...I will do as my priesthood requests because they
have not failed me, my family, the church and the world. Stay close to the
It's kind of nice to hear from the wheat and the tares as well as
everywhere in between. More fascinating is how each have their own definition of
where the lines draw between the two. I listened to last conference in my undies
in the recliner. I fell asleep through Elder Holland's talk making me a
"tare". However, I've listened to it over and over and over again
through my headphones since. Does that make me "wheat" enough now?
I'll watch General Priesthood Meeting with all my family and at home now
and enjoy every minute of it. And my wife doesn't even have a hankering for
ordination! I wish revelation would come to give them the Priesthood. It's
hard to get enough non-complacent, non-lazy, non-opinionated grumpy old men to
do any more than listen to the clacking few for a minute, then fall asleep the
rest of time. But certainly don't give me the option to go to Relief
Society. I don't want to make doilies and gossip during the week.
The Genie is officially out of the bottle, my friends. I'm watching
Priesthood in my PJs!!!
I wonder how many of the women who are hoping to attend the priesthood session
will plan on attending the General Relief Society meeting as well.
I'm sorry but I'm going to stay home and watch it along with my wife
and daughters. Just like I watch the General Relief SOciety broadcast with
them.The idea of "sacrifice" is so overblown by some in the
church and creating sacrifice scenarios when it's so unnecessary.
There's enough sacrifice involved on a day to day basis with modern life
and demands, and $4 a gallon Obama gas to run back and forth to the church all
of the time. Leave the choice to each brother to make without
laying such a big guilt trip on them that, somehow, they'll be less blessed
if they happen to stay home, with their family, and watch it. I
welcome this change. It's about time in my opinion.
Mike Johnson: "My wife does not have that choice. She will be going to the
Relief Society Meeting at the Stake Center because it isn't broadcast at
home.'Sure it is--have watched it on-line for 2 years.Great boon for Moms who can't leave little kids or babies. As
the Priesthood Session will now be a great option for those who, for whatever
reason may not be able to leave home.
Since we do not have a meeting house in my town nor has it ever been a tradition
in my family with a non member father and no sons of Priesthood age I will
welcome not driving in and sitting with a bunch of other men I have little in
common with and who I only talk with on Sunday and the occasional service
project. For me it has never built any unity and eating stale store bought pie
afterwards or half melted ice cream has never been enough of an incentive to
make me want to make that long drive. I welcome this change wholeheartedly!
It's still amazing to me the number of Utah-centric people there are here.
As has been pointed out once or twice, we do not ALL live in a bubble within
driving distance of the Conference Center. Those who ARE close enough to walk,
however, may want to do so this year. Who knows if something of substance, say,
instruction on preparation for the Second Coming, or an explanation for those
stadium-sized, dark, triangular-shaped spacecraft so many of us have seen
hovering silently in the skies from South Salt Lake to Payson? Are they really
reverse-engineered extraterrestrial aircraft being manufactured as part of a 2.3
trillion dollar USAP at a hidden facility so far under Flat-Top Mountain roads
aren't even used to access it? Might be good to go this year. Just
sayin'. Maybe Senator Hatch will be there, and we can ask him if none of
the speakers are forthcoming about where our tax dollars are being spent, or
why. Surely the Prophet knows.
For us, General Conference is a family tradition. We watch the general sessions
at home, and always have fresh cinnamon rolls, deviled eggs and juice (odd menu,
but it's a tradition). And we DO watch each and ever session. When it
comes to the priesthood session, I put on my suit and head to the stake center,
and will this time too - even though it's nearly twenty miles; this too is
tradition.Following the October Priesthood session, a few families
congregate at our home for home made chilly, scones and pies. This too is
tradition. Conference for us is not a vacation from church, it is a time to
listen to the prophets and gain renewed strength to face another six months in
this corrupt world.If the messages keep sounding the same, perhaps
we haven't quite gotten the point yet and still need to get it right before
church leaders can move on. Once in a great while, we make the 700
mile drive to Utah and if possible, we love to be in the Conference Center even
though it is much easier to stay at home. We love to be with the Brethren.
What I would like to see is the women's session being held on the same
weekend as general conference.
What we've learned so far on this board:Men were commanded to
earn their living by the sweat of their brow and women were commanded to bear
children in pain.Men were given the priesthood and women, well ... get to
bear children in pain.The moderators are men. Evidence of this:
There is no problem calling women spinsters who knit dollies and gossip, but if
you mention that you're more happier and comfortable when some women are
around (rather than only men), it gets censored.
Traditions are nice, but eventually they need to end. Too much Tradition has
become Pseudo Doctrine in the Church (dress codes,etc). This is 2013, not 1913.
The Church no longer has a "Patriarch" in the sense that Hyrum was one.
Perhaps in time the Presiding Bishopric will also cease to exist. It's real
purpose this day is more for Construction and building maintenance--the First
Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve handle the matters of salvation.
From some of the comments I read it sound like this is a great opportunity for
those that have never been to a PH meeting to finally learn what is really
discussed. Or maybe some will still be too lazy to turn the channel. It's
all about desire and where one's heart is whether one goes to a building or
watches it on TV.
Do LDS men gather with their wives and children to watch Relief Society
Conference? No? I should think not, and what would be the point? You can
read about it afterwards if you want, but Relief Society is designed for LDS
women and Priesthood Conference for LDS men.It is the GENERAL
sessions that are for a general audience.
If the priesthood session of General Conference is to be attended in person at
the stake centers and Conference Center, why broadcast it in the first place?
I'm perfectly happy to wait for the November Ensign to come out so I can
read the talks. I have no desire to attend the priesthood session. It's
kind of like the Catholic Church changing their rules to appease their
parishioners. It's really not necessary. When we start to change the rules
to appease the people, are we still pleasing God??? As a woman, I am happy to
let my husband attend this meeting. Why are these activist women being catered
to?? We have different but equal roles in the church. We should proudly execute
our duties and quit trying to be like the men. We're not men. If this is a
patriarchal church, so be it. Heavenly Father set it up and who are we to
The ever-evolving church is just changing with the times as it has since the end
of polygamy by Wilford Woodruff. Putting Priesthood Session on regular TV and
the Internet was a fait accompli and the woman group wanting the priesthood just
served as a nudging of the church leadership to take the perceived mystery
topics of Priesthood Session out into the light. Talk topics will
probably not change much from the usual of the past decade or more which will
likely include: stay away from porn, work harder being a husband, repent of your
sins and get ready to serve a mission, either as a young adult or as a retiree.
Oh and go to the temple no matter your age as a priesthood holder.
My wife wants to come with me to watch it at the Stake Center. What should I
They're just encouraging one of the options, not saying anyone has to do
anything. It doesn't matter if some guys go to the chapel while other guys
watch from home. In the end the church leaders care much more about whether
people are listening than how they go about it, that's why they expanded
the options in the first place, to make it easier for some people.
Looks to me like this is to help many sides of the equation... To the men
debating what to do now, it confirms that nothing has changed... To those who
are seeking 'change' can further understand if they are listening that
the answer is still no and forever will be. Will it sink in this time?
Our latest tradition has been to pick up Cafe Rio and take it to the Primary
Room and listen to this session.Now we'll pick up Cafe Rio and
watch it in the family room...together.
My husband has missed it for years due to back problems - can't sit on a
pew that long. He won't have to miss it this year. :)
I have to add to my previous comment. I know that there are many out there who
are housebound and can't attend physically, so for them this is a good
thing. They will be able to watch from their homes or care facility. I'm
sure the prophet and his counselors and the Quorum of the Twelve prayed over
this decision. I'm just a little concerned about the activist women who
want to hold the priesthood and are making their voices heard. Why can't we
just leave things as God intended?
Remember, the statement by General Authorities is a General statement not
specific. I am an older single guy who's kids are grown. All of
situations aren't the same.Why not stay at home and watch it? It is
what I will do I am certain.
In my stake we have now for over two years done some sort of broadcast of
priesthood meeting to chapels without satellite dishes. Of course, while those
two chapels are not that far from the stake center, there are people who can get
to them in 15 minutes or less who would have to travel well over half an hour to
go to the stake center. This is a far cry from the distances involved in many
stakes in Utah.
That said, my stake is still highly encouraging people to attend at chapels.
This is what has been done with General RS and General YW meetings since those
have been available for broadcast, although the broadcast of those seems to not
be as highly publicized.The point here, is that there are some
people who cannot reasonably make it to a chapel, but for those who can, they
will get much more out of the meeting attending with their fellow holders of the
Realitically this is just a better situation. The messages are aimed
specifically at men and boys. If someone was to try to watch it at home with
children under 12 either they would have to make 10-year-olds sit through even
more meetings, or be ripe for distraction.On the other hand, one of
my fellow primary teachers will be deployed with the National Guard, so he
really has no choice but to watch it on-line.
I am wondering if in other locations they have gone to making priesthood meeting
available at all chapels like they have here in Michigan. Does anyone know?
I thought I was the only one that got censored for comments I see others
have that problem as well.
@John Pack Lambert of MichiganI know when I was at Penn State years
ago they broadcasted it to the local wardhouse (the stake center was... I want
to say around half an hour away if not closer to an hour, I'd never gone
there) and presumably the other ones as well.
Ahhh I remember when I attended the priesthood session, those were the days.
The protesters, the sleeping and the Prime Rib at the Lion House
afterword's. Good times. I'll be at home watching
football but for those fellas who are interested in this kind of thing I say do
you Mother Earth a favor and stay at home. Staying home might also be a little
easier on the old pocket book if you know what I mean.Lets face it
guys the benefits to staying home far outweigh the benefits of physically
attending. They are as follows:1. You don't have to wear a
suit at home2. You can switch between Conference and other programs3. Your Wife can attend with you 4. You can drink Diet Cola and eat
chips while you watch5. There is a restroom near by6. You can fall
asleep with out any fear of pranks or repercussion and finally #7.
Split Screen People! Halo 5 one side Priesthood session the other!No seriously stay at home.
I always wait fior the audio to be posted. Then--with a simple tap of the 2x
speed setting on my iPhone--even the slowest speakers sound more interesting.