I find it very funny that Coach K schedules 11 of the first 12 games at home.
That is "pac"thethic and no way to prepare a team for a tough conference
schedule. Utah needs a coach with the guts to schedule harder teams, and on the
road.u25 - and how many stars do this so-called "packed talent"
have? Yeah. I thought so. The talk is all hype and the season will end the same
as last year, and the year before, and the year before, and the year
before...shall I go on?
You have your teams mixed up the y is a lot weaker having lost several key
players. Utah has improved greatly at every position except center. If they get
the center position worked out we will be a really good team.
Objectively, this Ute team will not be as good as last years team. U lost a lot
of your offensive production from last year. But in fairness to Krystko, this
will be his first real rebuilding year. With that said, Utah fans
will get all excited when the Utes sail through an embarrassingly weak NC
schedule with 8 - 10 wins over teams like Evergreen, Grand Canyon and Savannah
St. Then reality will set in when the Utes struggle to get 4 or 5 conference
Ute fans are a curious bunch indeed. Nothing before 2004 is relevant in fb and
nothing after 1998 is relevant in bball. We even have a Ute fan going back 50
years in bball on this thread.And what's even more curious is
that the thread started out with 'schedule smack' from fans of a team
who have an AD who is afraid to play USU and a HC to play Weber State.And some of the same fans who are complaining about trolling are routinely on
BYU articles. The Utes seem like they have better recruits and guys
are starting to buy into Kryscos philosophy, something absent under Boylen. An
improved year in the number of wins is possible but the OOC schedule is no way
to get ready for PAC 12 play.
utahcountyute"It's all coming to an end soon."Wishful thinking from a program that loses at home to teams like Sacramento
State every year.
swoopI believe it was your boy "nottoosmartforyou" that
started the football thread calling out chris b. Let's at least keep the
smack to a sport that the cougs have won recently.TrueAnxiety..that's right. I can sense it in the high pitched tones of the
byU "fans" on this Utah bball article. "7 in a row, 11 out of
12" It's all coming to an end soon.Go Utes!
utahcountyuteWho said BYU fans have any anxiety playing the Utes in
the HC?7 in a row, 11 of the last 12, 12 of 15 during the Rose era,
149-145 overallThe Utes were fortunate to get their only victory in
the last 12 meetings, winning by 6 in OT in the HC.Go Cougars!
wow all this byU "fan" love on this thread is heart warming. Do you
really have that much anxiety over the fact that Utah is going to own you in
football and basketball in the HC this year? lolIt was a great game
in Provo last year (I was there in Red) and the cougs were fortunate to pull out
the victory. This year, the out come will be different.Go Utes!
Ute fans are hilarious making completely unprovable claims like "Had Utah
played your weak schedule last year (63rd hardest according to Sagarin), Utah
would have gone bowling with ease," yet they get their shorts in a bunch
when BYU fans make the exact same types of unprovable claims.As Utah
have proven in losing an absolute LOCK of a home game versus 10-loss Colorado
and in being shut out by 10-loss UNLV, the Utes are capable of losing to
ANYBODY, so to claim that the Utes would be a lock to beat any particular team
on BYU's schedule is silly.
Utah would have played OSU and USU in RES. It's possible Utah could have
won either of those two games; especially USU. As for the rest, well, you have
no idea. There is a reason they play the game.
"You have no way of proving that, but just for argument's sake:"Utah would've beaten Notre Dame, Georgia Tech, San Jose State,
Boise State and San Diego State. Wow, making unprovable statements really is
"Had Utah played your weak schedule last year (63rd hardest according to
Sagarin), Utah would have gone bowling with ease."You have no
way of proving that, but just for argument's sake:Utah would
have lost to Utah State(obviously), Oregon State (obviously), @Notre Dame, @San
Jose State, @Boise State, and @Georgia Techso you might have BARELY
qualified to go bowling, at 6-6, but you would have lost to SDSU, to finish with
a losing record at 6-7.btw, Sagarin rankings take into account SOS
and record, so how do you reconcile?:#26 BYU(8-5) #63 SOS#61
Utah(5-7) #41 SOSUtah has been trending downward since 2008:2008 #2/#4 13-02009 #18/#18 10-32010 ur/#23 10-32011
unranked/#39 8-5 (4-5)2012 unranked/#61 5-7 (3-6)2013 unranked//#42
3-1 (0-1)The Utes haven't beaten an AP Top 25 team since 2008,
nor a PAC team with a winning record, yet you've already lost a home game
to a team that's not even as good most of the teams remaining on your
Just ignore the trolls,We all know the BBall program has been in
shambles over the last decade, no surprise there. But we can also see that it
seems like the program is on the rise. And if indeed it is, it is going to be a
lot of fun to watch.I'm 26, I remember the glory years, but I
never really cared much for college ball. Last year I watched more games than I
ever had before, and it was a ton of fun to watch our boys get some upsets.
There were awesome games last year, the wins v. CU, UO, Boise St., UW and Cal in
the conference tourney. Even the lose to the Y was fun to watch. Great times
are ahead!The haters are just here because they cant say anything
about Football. Football is King, but Basketball is still a lot of fun.Go Utes!
Swap,Nice try. I readily conceded that Utah basketball has not been
good for over a decade. It has performed below my expectations. And I also
mentioned that it's changing. There was plenty of basketball talk. Yes, I talked about football because it is hilarious. For the last 4
years you've promised to win and for the last 4 years you've gone home
with a loss. Again, you're here to try to talk smack about basketball
because you have nothing to say about football. Had Utah played your weak
schedule last year (63rd hardest according to Sagarin), Utah would have gone
bowling with ease. One year is hardly a trend, my friend.
HondoSo funny Utah fans wanting to talk football on a basketball
article.Just shows how desperate U are to avoid acknowledging that
BYU now owns U in basketball.We've been hearing talk of the
Utes rebuilding for the past 8 years. The truth is, for all of that
"improving", the Utes only improved from 3-15 to 5-13 in the PAC 12. The
overall "improvement" from 2012 to 2013 was a facade built on a
pathetically weak pre-conference schedule, just like this year's.Enjoy your subpar football team that can't even qualify for a bowl
So funny that there are so many BYU fans on this article. I guess you come on
here to make yourselves feel better after getting beat AGAIN on the football
field.Yes, the basketball program has been in shambles for a decade.
Please tell us something we don't already know. Will it stay that way?
No, it won't. We've got a top 20 recruiting class coming in and a
bright future.Enjoy your subpar football team and QB that has a 35%
UteologyBYU football has long since recovered from the Crowton
debacle.A down year for BYU football during the Bronco era is a
winning season and a bowl game.A down year for Utah football during
the Kyle era is a losing season and no bowl game.Unfortunately for U
in basketball, head-to-head is only part of the story; BYU has dominated U
across the board in conference championships, overall records, and post-season
tournament success.The same can't be said for U in football;
Kyle has owned the head-to-head, but Bronco has owned the U in conference
championships, Top 25 finishes, bowl appearances, and 10+ win seasons. In fact,
Bronco has more 11+ win seasons since 2006, than Utah has in its entire history.
Utah basetball is on the rise. At this point, that is all I can ask for. I
think by next year the expectation will be to compete in the PAC-12. Go UTES!!
@MUSSing with Uchristy7 in a row, 11 of the last 12, 12
of 15 during the Dave Rose era, 149-145 overallBYU owns U in
basketball.-----------True. Utah baseketball WAS where
Utah football was in the 80s. With what Coach K has done look for that trend to
reverse. Can you say the same for your football team?
UtesB4The Utes haven't been anywhere close to a Top 20
basketball program for almost a decade. At some point U have to let go of the
past and just accept reality. Utah's basketball program hasn't even
been mediocre since Bogut and the last vestiges of the Majerus era moved on.
Better recruits give hope, but it remains to be seen whether they'll be
able to help the Utes climb out of the conference basement.
UtesLoseBy5"And yet the University of Utah is still ranked the
20th best basketball program in the country over the last 50 years per
ESPN."Fast fading ancient history.BYU has clearly
overtaken Utah as the premier basketball program in the state; the Utes are, at
best, the 4th best program in the state behind BYU, USU, and Weber St.As far as recruiting goes:2013 ClassBYU signed two 4-star
and three 3-star recruits.Utah signed two 3-star and one 2-star.2014 ClassBYU has one 4-star, one 3-star, and one 2-star already
committed.Utah has two 4-star and one 2-star committed.Advantage, still BYU.
CGAnd yet the University of Utah is still ranked the 20th best
basketball program in the country over the last 50 years per ESPN. The past few
years have been rough but we have bright days immediately ahead of us. The last
two recruiting classes, especially the current class, have been very strong.We have a great coach in place and some terrific recruits. Our worst
days are behind us.Enjoy kicking the premier program of the state of
Utah while it's down.To all the Ute haters posting comments,
shouldn't you be posting on Gonzaga boards? St. Mary's boards? FYI,
Utah is in the PAC-12, BYU is in the WCC. Good luck to the Utes and
all the instate programs.
kiddocIt's been an even rougher 8 years and counting for Utah
basketball:116-137 (46%), 6 losing seasons, 1 embarrassing loss in
the NCAA3 of 15 versus BYU
Mussin with u....Whatever you need.....it's been a tough week
If the Utes breeze through their pre-conference schedule and then face plant
when the conference season begins, Larry has only himself to blame for not
properly preparing his team. Luckily, the Utes open conference play
at home versus Oregon, one of the few conference opponents the Utes beat at home
VegasUte"By the end of the year, Utah's SOS will be far
greater than BYU's, just like last year" Better dust off
another shelf for your SOS trophies.Unfortunately for U, you're
ignoring the other half of the equation:SOS is meaningless unless
you WIN.You need to recalibrate from BCS mode to NCAA tournament
mode: Getting an at-large NCAA tournament bid from the WCC is
considered just as much of an accomplishment as getting one from the PAC 12. A conference championship from the PAC 12 might mean more, usually, but
that comparison is irrelevant since the Utes are years away from being a PAC 12
championship contender.*BYU(23-12) #69 RPI, #58 SOS >
Utah(13-18) #212 RPI, #159 SOS*only wins versus D1 opponents countedbtw, current basketball SOS projections for 2013-14 (see ESPN):#118 BYU#120 Utahooops, no SOS trophy for U; now what?
GoRedIt's funny how the "recent accomplishments"
argument is completely dismissed by Utah fans as soon as we switch to
basketball.In order to feel good about themselves, the Utes have
established this strange timeline where nothing before 2004 counts in football
and nothing since 2005 counts in basketball.Fortunately for BYU, the
Cougars have a rich tradition in both: - a perennial Top 25 football
program for the last four decades (18 Top 25 finishes since 1977), with a
National Championship, a Heisman Trophy winner, 15 national individual awards, 6
national hall of fame players, and 29 bowl appearances- a strong
basketball program with two NIT championships, two John Wooden Award winners,
and 27 NCAA tournament appearances (same number as the Utes)by
comparison, - the Utes didn't even crack the AP Top 25 in
football until 1994, have only five AP Top 25 finishes, no national individual
or team awards, and only 17 bowl appearance- the Utes have had
better overall basketball success, but their program has been a train wreck for
almost a decade7 in a row, 11 of the last 12
Can't wait to see the new Utes this year under Coach K! The future looks
bright!Love the byU trollers on yet another Ute story. Glad to see
that they are as obsessed about Ute basketball as they are about Ute football.
They really are "die hard Utah Ute fan(s)" We really do appreciate your
continued and ever-present support. Can you imagine the melt down
this year when Utah beats byU? Epic!!Go Utes!!Onward
LonestarRunner?A byU fan perhaps?By the end of the year,
Utah's SOS will be far greater than byU's, just like last year and
just like football. So, you go ahead and cheer on byU in the junior high school
gymnasiums against those patsy in conference foes, we'll cheer on our
school against real conference foes at the end of the season. Of course, that
is exactly what byU is used to in football too, right? Patsies at the end of
the year!In summation - SOS for entire year U>Y. Twenty wins by
a rebuilding program in a power conference will certainly be seen as a greater
accomplishment than a third place finish in a second or third tier conference.
Face it, that is where byU is headed again!Go Utes!!Onward and Upward!!
I'm so excited for this years team. I am especially hopeful for the next
few years under Coach K3. We are heading in the right direction and I think
that the PAC12 affiliation is helping to build depth that wasn't available
to us under the MWC per se. Will we ever be so spoiled to see the Majerus
seasons? I hope so.Go UTES!!
@MUSSing with UAn advantage of 149-145 is hardly grounds to declare
ownership of your rivals. True, you have done better recently, but according to
your fellow BYU fans, what the team has done recently has no relevance. I
mean, in football we are 4 in a row, 5 of 6, and 9 of 12, yet we still have
BYU fans come onto our articles and trash our team and program. As
far as your BYU basketball team's recent success, I guess we should be
constantly reminding you of the 1990's and our glory years with all of the
awards, high draft picks, etc. that we had and when we owned you (you know,
kind of like BYU's 1980's in football that we get reminded of on a
daily basis by your fan base).It goes both ways. (By the way,
it's interesting you would honor us with your choice of your monicker.)
@LonestarRunnerSoooo, you agree with me? thank you for your
confirmation of what i just stated.
LOL @ "Mussing wtih U" obsessed much?
So excited for basketball since the Majeras era. Team has stacked so much talent
now just have to put it together. Should be the best team in the state this
Go Utes!"with the schedule we have i expect to have at least 20
wins"With the schedule you have, it would be an embarrassment if
the Utes didn't win at least 10 OOC games.Any half decent team
that plays nothing but patsies at home for the first two months of the season
should have a decent chance of winning 20 games. Except for BYU and
Boise St, did any of Utah's OOC opponents even have a winning record or
finish in the Top 200 RPI last year?vs. Saint Martin's
(exhibition)vs. Evergreen Statevs. UC Davisvs. Grand Canyonvs. Lamarvs. Savannah Statevs. Ball Stateat Boise Statevs. Fresno Statevs. Idaho Statevs. BYUvs. Texas Statevs. St. KatherineUnfortunately, that pathetically weak
pre-conference schedule won't do much to prepare U to face the rigors of
playing a PAC 12 schedule, especially on the road.
christy7 in a row, 11 of the last 12, 12 of 15 during the Dave Rose
era, 149-145 overallBYU owns U in basketball.
I bought my first Utah season tickets this year! Cannot wait for this season to
start, with the schedule we have i expect to have at least 20 wins and perhaps
more, i expect 7-8 regular season pac-12 wins.
Stick to football, Chris B. Your predictions (Utah being 4 - 0 and nationally
ranked this week) are more accurate (and hilarious).
Met Jordan briefly at the fan fest. Really humble and approachable kid. Noticed
the weight loss as well. That fist step will be even faster this year!Nice work coach. Keep it up.Go Utes!
Guess who had the top 5 rpi wins among all Utah schools last year?UtahUtahUtahUtahUtahThat right, Utah had
five wins better than any win byu had all yearYes there were bad
losses, mostly at beginning of year But I will take a team that has
proven it can win big games over a team that doesn't have a single top 100
rpi win all season, any day. Coach k will have us in the tournament
within two years. Go utes!Onward and upward.
I'm ready for this season...Semi Finals of P12 tourney last
year!! Young and big this year, but by this years tourney the younger guys will
have a lot more experience...Glad Larry is at the helm