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Published: Thursday, Sept. 26 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Baron Scarpia
Logan, UT

The GOP is bent on self-destruction. Perhaps a new political party can emerge from the ashes -- one focused on problem solving and conservative solutions that benefit all rather than one focused on obstruction and meanness.

george of the jungle
goshen, UT

How did our elected have their own laws and I have different laws if it's for, by and of the people.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

the terrible truth about all this is as follows...

hate it or REALLY hate it, Obama won reelection and Obamacare is the law of the land. You can only delay something so long and then it must be implemented. Congress is controlled by Harry Reid in the Senate and as such NOTHING of substance will ever get done...just ramming through Obama's agenda. Cruz gave a symbolic and principled fight but in the end it could not win...it could only bring attention to this insane socialist cancer called Obamacare and for that reason I applaud his efforts. There is no doubt ...even with all the Obama spin ...this train wreck is going to cause extreme anger and fear and pain across the nation and at this point I suggest we just let the ugly thing destroy what it will until the 2014 elections. The red state democrats are going to have to face the voters in their states and that is NOT something to envy. YIKES!!!

louie
Cottonwood Heights, UT

"So after scoring some points, Republicans should vote, more in sorrow than in anger, to fund the government (at sequester levels, a significant victory) and to increase the debt ceiling. Having forced Democrats to dramatize their perverse priorities"

In the final analysis I am not sure they (the republicans) are scoring the points. In fact it might be the other team. If premium costs are generally going down, if those with pre-existing conditions are no longer denied insurance, if millions of families can now afford insurance, and perhaps close to a million people can now avoid the stress of medical bankruptcy just perhaps this will be viewed as a step in the right direction, one that is long overdue.

And to say this is a "perverse priority"....I don't think so.

If this is a "perverse priority" I think George Will needs look at his priorities.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

This struggle isn't just about ObamaCare. Republicans know that once America accepts ObamaCare... they are permanently relegated to being the Minority.

ObamaCare is the first step, not the last step. The goal is Nationalized Healthcare (all Democrats know that, not all American's know that... yet).

But both Republicans and Democrats see ObamaCare as the "key" to giving Democrats PERMANENT control of the Federal Government.

Because once Americans are dependent on ObamaCare... you can never go back. And any party that even talks about going back will be shunned. So democrats can keep playing the fear game telling the voters that IF you don't elect me... you may loose your healthcare and be out on the street if you ever get sick.

That will work UNTIL America runs out of money, or borrowing power. Then the pendulum will swing back the other way and the Democrats who bankrupted us will be the pariahs.

It's all a political game. They pretend it's about you. But YOU don't really matter. It's mostly about political power for one party or the other that matters to them most (to both sides).

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

Tyler D,

Please be more respectful of Paul Revere . . .

sergio
Phoenix, AZ

Ten years from now Obama Care will be revered as Americas greatest achievement since SS and sliced bread and Obama will be hailed a hero of the common man and a great president for the people.

Tyler D
Meridian, ID

@Twin Lights – “Please be more respectful of Paul Revere . . .”

Love it!

My bad… sincerest apologies to you and Paul.

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

George Will’s elaborate Machiavellian game plan for how to skin a Democratic cat is too convoluted for a GOP that can’t figure out how to get its own house in order. Just watching McCain, Hatch, and McConnell chagrined as Ted Cruz commanded center stage doing a one man burlesque show was embarrassing for even a liberal Democrat like me. It shows just how deeply in disarray the Republican Party remains.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

@Tyler D
Meridian, ID

...as opposed to Rush Limbaugh who is more like Paul Revere

8:55 a.m. Sept. 26, 2013

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Although I agree with your premise,
I was thinking Rush Limbaugh as more a

Chicken Little
or
Little Boy Who cries Wolf!

wrz
Phoenix, AZ

@Baron Scarpia
"The GOP is bent on self-destruction. Perhaps a new political party can emerge from the ashes..."

If this happens, the name of the new party would likely have to 'The Socialists' if it hopes to be successful in what will be a socialist country.

@patriot:
"Obama won reelection and Obamacare is the law of the land."

So are our immigration laws 'the law of the land.' But Obama chooses to ignore these laws.

@2 bits:
"But both Republicans and Democrats see ObamaCare as the 'key' to giving Democrats PERMANENT control of the Federal Government."

Yes... Obamacare plus the millions upon millions of illegal immigrants the Democrats are letting into this country to be eventual Democrat voters. That's what liberals are best at... sell your country down the river to stay in power.

@airnaut:
"I'm surprised so many level headed guys like George Will, Collin Powell or Jon Huntsman Jr. have remained in the current nut-house called the GOP."

These guys remain Repubs because they like the America that our Founding Fathers set up... and they hate what the Liberals are doing to it.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

For once I agree with patriots suggestion, I just disagree with his conclusion. Why do I disagree? Lots of reasons but primarily because it's so obvious the lies republicans have told themselves about this law and it's effects.

Last night a woman who works for one of the areas largest corporations was telling my wife how she and her husband were hoping because of health problems he has, he could work until age 62 when he could go on medicare. She would then work until 65, if only Obamacare doesn't mess it up for them. What? Apparently she was referring to the fact that some corporations (UPS) have decided to no longer cover spouses who have insurance somewhere else. None of this has anything to do with the ACA (UPS admitted this) except Republicans have somehow linked the two.

So yes let's let it go into place and let the lies fall away and fix the bumps and see where the chips fall. I bet I know where that is.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

pragmatist,
you talk about the lies associated with obamacare.

how about:

if you like you current plan, you can keep it - lie

costs will decrease by $2500 per family per year - lie

won't increase taxes - lie.

not intended to cover abortion - lie.

every parlimentary shenanigan available in order to pass it - passed through the use of lies

every bill will be posted on the internet for at least two days before voted on - lie

open and transparent process - lie

people want it - lie

almost very one of these examples goes right back to your annointed, deified one, not some unnamed "republican"

don't talk to me about the GOP telling lies to derail what is first and formost a lie!

let it go into place and see where the chips fall. yeah, drive off the cliff and see what it's like to hit the bottom.

No One Of Consequence
West Jordan, UT

Will's recommendations are written like an armchair battle plan. He is so far from the "trenches" that he will survive the economic destruction of Obamacare just fine. The subsidized poor will be fine too, until the wheels fall off of the gravy-train. But the middle-class, the owners and employees of small business, will feel the pain most, and soonest.

wrz
Phoenix, AZ

@pragmatistferlife:
"So yes let's let it go into place and let the lies fall away and fix the bumps and see where the chips fall. I bet I know where that is."

Here's a bump for you when you get up in age... it's called 'death panels.' Obama spelled this out early when he told seniors who will need extensive healthcare, to 'just go home and take a painkiller...' Why? Because Obamacare will not cover you. You're no longer a producer. We've seen this mentality somewhere before.

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