@pragmatistferlife:"So yes let's let it go into place and let the
lies fall away and fix the bumps and see where the chips fall. I bet I know
where that is."Here's a bump for you when you get up in
age... it's called 'death panels.' Obama spelled this out early
when he told seniors who will need extensive healthcare, to 'just go home
and take a painkiller...' Why? Because Obamacare will not cover you.
You're no longer a producer. We've seen this mentality somewhere
Will's recommendations are written like an armchair battle plan. He is so
far from the "trenches" that he will survive the economic destruction of
Obamacare just fine. The subsidized poor will be fine too, until the wheels fall
off of the gravy-train. But the middle-class, the owners and employees of small
business, will feel the pain most, and soonest.
pragmatist,you talk about the lies associated with obamacare.how about:if you like you current plan, you can keep it - liecosts will decrease by $2500 per family per year - liewon't increase taxes - lie.not intended to cover abortion -
lie.every parlimentary shenanigan available in order to pass it -
passed through the use of liesevery bill will be posted on the
internet for at least two days before voted on - lieopen and
transparent process - liepeople want it - liealmost very
one of these examples goes right back to your annointed, deified one, not some
unnamed "republican"don't talk to me about the GOP
telling lies to derail what is first and formost a lie!let it go
into place and see where the chips fall. yeah, drive off the cliff and see what
it's like to hit the bottom.
For once I agree with patriots suggestion, I just disagree with his conclusion.
Why do I disagree? Lots of reasons but primarily because it's so obvious
the lies republicans have told themselves about this law and it's effects.
Last night a woman who works for one of the areas largest
corporations was telling my wife how she and her husband were hoping because of
health problems he has, he could work until age 62 when he could go on medicare.
She would then work until 65, if only Obamacare doesn't mess it up for
them. What? Apparently she was referring to the fact that some corporations
(UPS) have decided to no longer cover spouses who have insurance somewhere else.
None of this has anything to do with the ACA (UPS admitted this) except
Republicans have somehow linked the two. So yes let's let it
go into place and let the lies fall away and fix the bumps and see where the
chips fall. I bet I know where that is.
@Baron Scarpia"The GOP is bent on self-destruction. Perhaps a new
political party can emerge from the ashes..."If this happens,
the name of the new party would likely have to 'The Socialists' if it
hopes to be successful in what will be a socialist country.@patriot:"Obama won reelection and Obamacare is the law of the
land."So are our immigration laws 'the law of the
land.' But Obama chooses to ignore these laws.@2 bits:"But both Republicans and Democrats see ObamaCare as the 'key'
to giving Democrats PERMANENT control of the Federal Government."Yes... Obamacare plus the millions upon millions of illegal immigrants the
Democrats are letting into this country to be eventual Democrat voters.
That's what liberals are best at... sell your country down the river to
stay in power.@airnaut:"I'm surprised so many level
headed guys like George Will, Collin Powell or Jon Huntsman Jr. have remained in
the current nut-house called the GOP."These guys remain Repubs
because they like the America that our Founding Fathers set up... and they hate
what the Liberals are doing to it.
@Tyler DMeridian, ID...as opposed to Rush Limbaugh who is more
like Paul Revere8:55 a.m. Sept. 26, 2013========= Although I agree with your premise, I was thinking Rush Limbaugh
as more a Chicken LittleorLittle Boy Who cries Wolf!
George Will’s elaborate Machiavellian game plan for how to skin a
Democratic cat is too convoluted for a GOP that can’t figure out how to
get its own house in order. Just watching McCain, Hatch, and McConnell chagrined
as Ted Cruz commanded center stage doing a one man burlesque show was
embarrassing for even a liberal Democrat like me. It shows just how deeply in
disarray the Republican Party remains.
@Twin Lights – “Please be more respectful of Paul Revere . .
.”Love it! My bad… sincerest apologies to
you and Paul.
Ten years from now Obama Care will be revered as Americas greatest achievement
since SS and sliced bread and Obama will be hailed a hero of the common man and
a great president for the people.
Tyler D,Please be more respectful of Paul Revere . . .
This struggle isn't just about ObamaCare. Republicans know that once
America accepts ObamaCare... they are permanently relegated to being the
Minority.ObamaCare is the first step, not the last step. The goal
is Nationalized Healthcare (all Democrats know that, not all American's
know that... yet).But both Republicans and Democrats see ObamaCare
as the "key" to giving Democrats PERMANENT control of the Federal
Government.Because once Americans are dependent on ObamaCare... you
can never go back. And any party that even talks about going back will be
shunned. So democrats can keep playing the fear game telling the voters that
IF you don't elect me... you may loose your healthcare and be out on the
street if you ever get sick.That will work UNTIL America runs out of
money, or borrowing power. Then the pendulum will swing back the other way and
the Democrats who bankrupted us will be the pariahs.It's all a
political game. They pretend it's about you. But YOU don't really
matter. It's mostly about political power for one party or the other that
matters to them most (to both sides).
"So after scoring some points, Republicans should vote, more in sorrow than
in anger, to fund the government (at sequester levels, a significant victory)
and to increase the debt ceiling. Having forced Democrats to dramatize their
perverse priorities" In the final analysis I am not sure they
(the republicans) are scoring the points. In fact it might be the other team.
If premium costs are generally going down, if those with pre-existing conditions
are no longer denied insurance, if millions of families can now afford
insurance, and perhaps close to a million people can now avoid the stress of
medical bankruptcy just perhaps this will be viewed as a step in the right
direction, one that is long overdue. And to say this is a
"perverse priority"....I don't think so.If this is a
"perverse priority" I think George Will needs look at his priorities.
the terrible truth about all this is as follows...hate it or REALLY
hate it, Obama won reelection and Obamacare is the law of the land. You can only
delay something so long and then it must be implemented. Congress is controlled
by Harry Reid in the Senate and as such NOTHING of substance will ever get
done...just ramming through Obama's agenda. Cruz gave a symbolic and
principled fight but in the end it could not win...it could only bring attention
to this insane socialist cancer called Obamacare and for that reason I applaud
his efforts. There is no doubt ...even with all the Obama spin ...this train
wreck is going to cause extreme anger and fear and pain across the nation and at
this point I suggest we just let the ugly thing destroy what it will until the
2014 elections. The red state democrats are going to have to face the voters in
their states and that is NOT something to envy. YIKES!!!
How did our elected have their own laws and I have different laws if it's
for, by and of the people.
The GOP is bent on self-destruction. Perhaps a new political party can emerge
from the ashes -- one focused on problem solving and conservative solutions that
benefit all rather than one focused on obstruction and meanness.