Published: Tuesday, Sept. 24 2013 4:15 p.m. MDT
@Open Minded,If you want to "lean out" the DOD, turn in your
resignation. Why should you fire others? Aren't their needs equal to
yours? Don't their families count? Or, do you take satisfaction in giving
out "pink slips"? Where's your compassion? I've never fired
anyone in my life. When things got tough, we all worked together to rebuild the
business. I took the same cut as those who worked with me.As to how
I voted, were you in the booth with me? Not even my wife knows how I voted, nor
would I ever ask her how she voted. It's none of my business and it's
none of your business. It's called a "private ballot" for a reason.
Just what do I have to do with AutoDesk or AutoCAD? Is that another
incorrect assumption that you made? You and Hatch have a lot in
common. Take that anyway that you want.
Hatch is operating in the realm of reality while Lee is operating in the land of
what he wishes reality was. If Cruz and Lee had succeeded, the government would
end up in a shut-down. Poll after poll show that the Republicans would take a
hit in the 2014 mid-term elections which would make it more difficult to change
any portion of the health care law. Hatch knows what can and cannot be
accomplished when you are a minority party in the Senate. If you read what he
has said on the issue you will realize that he wants to dismantle Obamacare. He
just understands that the Lee and Cruz approach doesn't have a good ending
either in 2013, 2014 or in the Presidential election in 2016. Lets be real here
- do you think Obama would sign any law that defunds his signature
accomplishment and if he wouldn't sign it the Senate would need 67 votes to
over-ride. At some point you have to say to yourself, "what can I do with
this hand I've been dealt?' Lee has a pair of 3's and acts like
he has a royal flush. The cards are not there.
Think of the money we could save if the govt. was shut down.
I have always supported Hatch, but today I received an email from him that is
the best example of doublespeak I have ever read. If he is so anxious to kill
Obamacare, why did he vote to remove the best leverage the Republicans have to
kill it? His email:"Dear Friend:"The
effort to defund Obamacare is at the forefront of the nation's attention as
we fight to bring fiscal sanity back to an issue that will impact every single
American. The Senate unanimously voted today to move forward with debate on the
Continuing Resolution spending bill which funds all of government except
Obamacare. As I said, the vote was unanimous: 100-0."I applaud
the House for passing a government funding bill last week to fund all of the
government except for the President's disastrous health law. Defunding
Obamacare is the right thing to do, and that's why I voted to proceed to
the House-passed bill that defunds the law."...The more Utahns
and their fellow Americans learn about Obamacare the more they hate it, and by
voting this way we move the ball forward in a way that impacts Obamacare the
Sign the petition and we can get rid of these ultra right(and left) wing
candidates who are trying to ruin this great country.
@Mike RichardsSouth Jordan, Utah@Open Minded,If
you want to "lean out" the DOD, turn in your resignation. Why should you
fire others? Or, do you take satisfaction in giving out "pink slips"?
==== Oh brother...here we go again.1. I
don't fire anybody.2. I look over Engineering drawings from
hundreds and thousands of DoD suppliers.When I find one raking the United
States taxpayer $17,000 for a bolt, or $5,000 for a washer, I find someone else
meeting the same rigid Engineering criteria that is also a certified DoD
supplier and change the part number to order the cheaper one -- NOT the
ridiculously expensive Corporate one.I'm authorized to do so.The $BILLIONS I witness daily being wasted would make even YOU cringe,
and is one reason why I loathe the very Corporations you worship.Sell a weapon system -- and hide in the contract, the supplies required
[goops, glues, paint, nuts, bolts, washers, wiring -- stuff from HomeDepot]
these Corporations are silently gutting taxpayers -- until guys like me catch
them at it.Makes the Mafia look like silly little chumps.That's how they play in the BIG league.
Orrin Hatch is a progressive Republican, meaning he isn't fit to represent
normal people. Time for him to retire to the east coast with the rest of
'em. Obamacare is doing horrible damage to our budget and my wife needs to
be covered for her disabilities.I prefer to be free of him;
regardless of his "clout" to save Hill AFB as his only method of
re-election. I don't think it was really threatened after all.
21 and 1/2 hours, And not ONE new idea, solution, or alternative.Ridiculous.
Thank you senator Lee. Those of us who have common sense applaud you!
It was not a filibuster, it was a media show for the gullible.
Mike Lee is quite a guy. Willing to make the majority suffer for the good of the
few. Interesting that, for such a smart guy, he hasn't presented us with a
real, workable health care plan. Maybe he, like many other Americans, knows so
little about the Affordable Health Care act that he has no idea how to improve
it. So shut down the government. That will show them.
Utah got snookered when they re elected Hatch. He has been in DC way too long.
Mike Lee is intelligent, articulate and right in step with the majority of Utah
voters. Ted Cruz performed a great service to the everyday citizen by exposing
Obamacare for the train wreck,partisan piece of legislation enacted without one
republican vote in either the house or senate. The lies, horsetrading,bribes and
fraud used to get the votes in the senate were done during the Christmas Holiday
to avoid the scrutiny it deserved.It is hurting businesses in Utah right now as
they try to understand it and how it affects their employees.
Hello, I am going to assume that most people reading this are members of the
church of Jesus Christ of the latter day saints -- so you are Christians.Hatch is intelligent, capable, and interested in what is best for Utah
and right for America.The other guy represents the worst in modern
politics; the notion that anyone who is an opponent in any way should be buried
by whatever means, whether true and honest or not.The Affordable
Care Act, according to all the studies, seems to benefit millions of
Americans.In fact, it was a republican idea, which ought to have been
passed 40 years ago.Rich hospital corporations, doctors, and
pharmaceutical interests have spent many millions to make you think that
universal health care is the work of socialist devils.If you believe
in Christ, how can you not see that His children deserve health care.If you believe in fiscal responsibility, how can you not see that keeping
folks from having to go bankrupt, or having to call 911 is good?The
unfortunately hateful side of the republican party, including one Utah senator,
does not care who they hurt.
(R Short Sale on his house) Lee and Cruz (R Canadian) both voted for this bill
in the end. Nice political theater and no real substance.
Really ?!........Senator Cruz.........GREEN EGGS AND HAM ?!Really
?! Senator Cruz YOU have just GAVANIZED the Independent &
Democratic voters AGAINST the Republican Party even more than they were BEFORE
YOUR FILABUSTER SPEECH !!! Nice job of handing the next Presidential
election.....AWAY FROM....your own Republican Party !
Something to ponder: would Cruz and/or Lee do this if the bill belonged to
Senator Hatch became conservative 2 years before the 2012 elections. I believed
that he had truly changed. This has so far proved to be incorrect. More than
once he has sided with his liberal buddies. He stated he would fight against
OBAMACARE before his election. Where is the evidence he has done that? We need
this fight to be more transparent so the American people can know the tricks
being played to keep it alive. NO back room negotiations with Dirty HARRY.I was a pretty active proponent of Senator Hatch in the caucus meetings.
I regret that decision. In an interview I watch he was ask about the
congressional staff getting a subsidy for Obamacare because they were left out.
His response was that they should get the same benefits as congressional people
they work for. He was very elitist in his response. I don’t know why
congress should be on a different plan than the American people. Especially if
we are being herded like cattle to the single payor plan.SENATOR
HATCH please help us to overturn OBAMACARE NOW. You promised that but I see no
evidence of a promise being fulfilled.
Orrin Hatch is exactly what is wrong with Washington, career politicians. I was
sick to my stomach when he was re elected. He cares nothing about us, afterall
he is exempt from this. I love Mike Lee and Ted Cruz. Finally people who
represent us people, not their own ideals. We don't want Obamacare and
it's wrong to be forced on us.
Why is the DN fueling the civil war in the GOP? Hatch's
statement in the piece is subdued and reasonable (and correct in my opinion),
but the headline that jumps out at you is "Orrin Hatch blasts Mike Lee."
No, he made a statement in disagreement of Cruz's and Lee's approach
-- which is perfectly fine.Republicans need to stop attacking one
another. Disagreement is fine, but save attacks for the opposing party.
I agee with Senator Hatch! Who I have great repect for!
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