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Published: Tuesday, Sept. 24 2013 11:55 a.m. MDT

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flynn is the coolest
San Diego, CA

Kate Kelly is asking the wrong question. Rather than ask "why can't women have the priesthood?" she should be asking, "Is there such a thing as priesthood, and does the LDS church have it?" If the LDS church doesn't have the priesthood, women are being denied nothing. If the LDS church does indeed have the priesthood, then the church also has the authority to administer said priesthood. Can she not see the conundrum? If this is such a sticking point for her, why not join some other religion where women are allowed to be ministers?

E.S
Bountiful, UT

To atl134:

The decision to give the priesthood for men ONLY was made by God, not men. The decision of giving the the gift of pregnancy to women ONLY was made by God. So, where is the difference?

In this Church you either trust the prophets and revelation, or you don't. And if you do not trust them, you basically will not have much future in here...It is purely a matter of testimony, not gender.

okeesmokee
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

When the Nazis wanted to march in Skokie, Ill, the Jewish community raised quite a stink and attempted to prevent the march. In the end, the Nazis prevailed, and then decided not to march, but appreciated the publicity gained by the protests. These "activists" have no desire to hear what is said at the LDS Priesthood meeting, but want and desire publicity for their cause. I don't know what the correct answer is, but I would guess this would have fizzled had they been given tickets. All they want is attention and unfortunately, they are getting it.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

If they just want to hear the message... there are several ways they can hear and see what is said
1. watch it live in their chapel,
2. watch the rebroadcast,
2. download the audio or video from the AppleStore,
4. read it in the church magazines the next month... there's no secrets.

My question is... why would an activist need to be in the building and not use any of these other sources (unless they want to disrupt the actual meeting).

Disrupting the meeting is not a good thing IMO or something the church must allow. If you want to protest... protest OUTSIDE and make your point, but don't ruin it for everybody else by being disruptive and ruining the spirit of the meeting.

If the activists just want to enjoy the message... use one of the methods above (Note: 99% of the members of the church will get the message by one of these methods, not by being present in the Conf Center).

Bottom line... If you are there to disrupt the meeting... they don't have to allow that.

dasha!
Provo, UT

Someone asked "when did this Kelly lady in the article become the Prophet of the Lord?" And others have been shocked that women are "demanding to get the priesthood." From all I've read/heard about this group of women, no one is "demanding" anything. They are simply expressing their feelings of wanting/hoping for the priesthood for women and are only asking the prophet (which none of them claims to be) to take their question/supplication to the Lord on their behalf. Because, although someone else suggested they pray directly to God about it and stop bothering all of us with it, they can and I'm sure they do pray about it...but any revelation about it will come only through the prophet, and so he must ask. This is how the priesthood being extended to blacks came about through President Kimball...he had to beseech for a long time, not just sit around waiting for the revelation to drop on him. Why don't women now have the priesthood? Prophets and apostles have said, "We don't know why," so how 'bout we stop our speculating.

Aephelps14
San Luis Obispo, CA

As a female member of the LDS church, I don't feel the need to hold the priesthood, but I do think that the fact that men hold the priesthood can sometimes create a sense of inequality in the mind of men and women in the church and that leaks into how the church is run in unfortunate ways. What needs to be rectified here is the attitude of individuals and not necessarily doctrine. However, I think that if you don't ask, nothing will change. Who are we to say that women won't ever hold the priesthood? God's thoughts are not our thoughts.

cougarsare1
Las Vegas, NV

Great corollaries: Elders and High Priests. You can die an Elder as an old man and still receive all the same blessings as one who was a High Priest. A woman can die an old woman and still receive ALL of the same blessings as a man who was a High Priest. So how is Sister Kelly not on the same spiritual footing as men who hold the priesthood?

Finally, what she is seeking is not equal spiritual footing, but equal administrative footing. And even if the Lord saw fit to have women be ordained to the priesthood, we all know how He feels about those who aspire to leadership positions.

Amen to Sister Skaggs and her comments. And thank the Lord that the vast majority of the membership of the Church shares her views. It is unfortunate that such a small, nay, miniscule number commands as much attention as they have garnered.

Julie R.
Kearns, UT

Ladies, we have ALWAYS been on the same spiritual footing as the men. We have never been and never will be anything less than the brethren except when we personally do not keep the commandments we each made at baptism. Every ordinance that the sisters of the church receive are the exact same ordinances that the men receive, except for the Priesthood. You do not understand in the slightest degree your role as a Daughter of your Heavenly Father if you think and believe that His daughters need to be ordained to the Priesthood. You are greatly perverting the ways of the Lord and His church, and remember that this is Jesus Christ's church. If you have a problem with the way it is run then you need to take it to the head of the this church. That person is Jesus Christ. How very sad that you claim to love and obey Jesus Christ (baptism covenants that are to be renewed every Sunday during the Sacrament) and yet you are telling Him by your words and actions that you do not follow Him at all. I pray that you will understand your worth as women.

Canyontreker
TAYLORSVILLE, UT

she continued, "and we want to go to priesthood meeting so we can show our leaders that we are ready for both the benefits and responsibilities of the priesthood. That is our focus."

Women have the benefits and responsibilities of the priesthood.
1- Women are set apart by the laying on of hands to perform callings as teachers, missionaries, and leaders.
2- Women are essential to temple work through the Priesthood to "redeem the dead." Now, how many ordained women from other churches can do that?
3- Women lead prayers and talks in our congregations.

Mike Johnson
Stafford, VA

I download every session of conference including the priesthood session and the relief society/young womens session and listen to them as a I commute to work over the next week after conference. They all give wonderful counsel. And anybody anywhere in the world can do so.

This story did indicate that the priesthood session will be broadcast over the internet live, meaning I won't have to drive to the stake center to listen.

As for women holding the priesthood, anytime the Lord says to do so, I am prepared to support it. Priesthood means work and service to others. It does not mean power or glory to oneself. It does not mean authority to dominate anybody else ("amen to the authority" of anybody who tries that). It simply means service to others and I am more than happy to hand off that service to women. Most would do a better job than I do.

Alex 1
Tucson, AZ

Consider the following scripture:

Doctrine & Covenants 84:33-34:
33 For whoso is faithful unto the obtaining these two priesthoods of which I have spoken, and the magnifying their calling, are sanctified by the Spirit unto the renewing of their bodies.

34 They become the sons of Moses and of Aaron and the seed of Abraham, and the church and kingdom, and the elect of God.

That brings me to the question. How many of you ladies want to become a son? (Just a thought.)

E.S
Bountiful, UT

“Women do not hold the priesthood because the Lord has put it that way. It is part of His program. Women have a very prominent place in this Church. Men hold the priesthood offices of the Church. But women have a tremendous place in this Church. They have their own organization. It was started in 1842 by the Prophet Joseph Smith, called the Relief Society, because its initial purpose was to administer help to those in need. It has grown to be, I think, the largest women’s organization in the world... They have their own offices, their own presidency, their own board. That reaches down to the smallest unit of the Church everywhere in the world." --- Pres. Gordon B. Hinckley

Women do have a place in this Church and they do have administrative positions in it as well. Go tell Sheri Dew, Julie Beck, Heidi Swinton, Ruth Todd and the primary president in all wards and stakes that their callings are not administrative or that they are less important to this work just because they do not have the priesthood!

This whole thing is ridiculous...

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

If this woman has been endowed in the temple ..then she should reflect on the endowment ceremony because she clearly and sadly doesn't understand it nor does she understand or appreciate her role as a woman and a mother. If she hasn't been endowed then I would recommend that she make the changes necessary in her own life to go to the temple and receiver her own endowment - not only for the promised blessings but also of knowledge and understanding...not as the world teaches but as The Spirit teaches.

The Church teaches that women and men are indeed equal partners in the Lords eyes and their roles are equally important. To feel somehow slighted for not getting what men get is to simply not understand the gospel of Jesus Christ.

flynn is the coolest
San Diego, CA

Kate Kelly is asking the wrong question. Rather than ask "why can't women have the priesthood?" she should be asking, "Is there such a thing as priesthood, and does the LDS church have it?" If the LDS church doesn't have the priesthood, women are being denied nothing. If the LDS church does indeed have the priesthood, then the church also has the authority to administer said priesthood. Can she not see the conundrum?

Canyontreker
TAYLORSVILLE, UT

Dennis "Isn't it interesting that the Church would keep (any) woman out of the proceedings yet have a meeting that 12 year old boys can attend."

Isn't it interesting that the Church would set-apart a 12-year old girl by the laying on of hands through the power of the Priesthood to be a Beehive President.

BYU&UW FAN
West Jordan, UT

I am not for or against women having the priesthood, but I am against attacking church leadership.

To me the biggest issue with this group is the tactic of trying to bring a protest to a church meeting. It seems that the whole purpose of this group is to attack the church. I have been paying attention to the Facebook group for some time, and it seems many are anti LDS. The saying wolf in sheep's clothing comes into mind with this group.

Razzle2
Bluffdale, UT

Oh, how I hope they just give them the tickets and they simply walk in.
No news here.

grandmagreat
Lake Havasu City, AZ

My heart goes out to these women, who do not understand the Gospel that was inspired. How can any woman who has served a mission be a leader of this group. I have served in the church in many callings, many of them vry time consuming, and have been blessed by those callings. Working with the priesthood Authority in my Wards and Stakes. i have been grateful for these callings and blessed by that service. My question is how many of these women who woould like the priesthood have done one single thing for humanitarian Service. Have Taught one Glass of girls and counseled one girl tht is having problems, that she would not talk to her parents about.. We don't need the priesthood to do this, we just need those grat priesthood Leaders who have requested we do our part. My prayers are with the women, that want to change the things of the Lord's church. I am a lifelong member of the church, my ancestors were driven out of Nauvoo, thse women sacrificed much for the church and they followed the prophet. I suggest that you do the same.

oldcougar
Orem, UT

Is it offensive or exclusionary for Jesus to be a man? "Savior, Messiah, and Creator" are all callings that require the priesthood. Will we be lobbying God for a female Messiah? How far does the agitation go? Is the desire to hold the priesthood and be on equal footing with men just a here and now thing? If you truly believe in the gospel and the eternity of our Spirits, do you believe females in the pre-existence were just slackers and that they lazily left the priesthood agitating to a tiny group of women among a very small group on the earth during this dispensation? Has God always been behind the times and old fashioned? After all these eternities, you would think he could get it right...or at least right for you.

flynn is the coolest
San Diego, CA

Kate Kelly is asking the wrong question. Rather than ask "why can't women have the priesthood?" she should be asking, "Is there such a thing as priesthood, and does the LDS church have it?" If the LDS church doesn't have the priesthood, women are being denied nothing. If the LDS church does indeed have the priesthood, then the church also has the authority to administer said priesthood. Can she not see the conundrum?

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