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Published: Tuesday, Sept. 24 2013 11:55 a.m. MDT

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Bored to the point of THIS!
Ogden, UT

Women who want the Priesthood should petition God, not the LDS Church for permission! God has set forth the guidelines.

The Rock
Federal Way, WA

"The ordination of women would put us all on equal spiritual footing with our brethren, and nothing less will suffice."

Wow. The church is either run by God or by men. The last time somebody decided to impose their will on God it did not end well. It resulted in a war in heaven.

God has His reasons for ordering His kingdom as He does. Most are humble enough to accept that. There is no comparison between this and extending the priesthood to all worthy male members. That had long been foretold and expected. This has not.

trueblue75
USA, NC

Obedience seems to shout in my ears....and listen to what we learn in primary..."Follow the Prophet"...if and when the Lord wants women to hold the priesthood in the way these women seem to think they need it, He will be the one to say so. I for one LDS woman have plenty to do in my role as woman, wife, mother, grandmother and servant in the Lord's kingdom...and add find great joy and satisfaction doing so. I agree with what someone said earlier, 'these women are totally confused or mis-lead.'... The Lord is in control of His kingdom;-)

Daughter of God
slc, UT

To many get distracted with things that do not pertain to our salvation. The time that could be used to become closer to our Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ, Is being used for this. It is by satin's design to distract many members in other things. If the time that is being spent towards this "goal" was being used to draw nearer to God, They would be much better off. Instead Satin has got them distracted with something else. This makes me sad. They are using valuable time that could be spent with family, pondering scriptures or doing missionary work. Instead they are causing contention and distracting our brethren at the priesthood session. To me it is no different then the protestors that yell and scream at us, as we are walking in general conference. It is distracting from the purpose and spirit. The session should be used as a time to gain strength for the brethren, just as we as women gain strength at the general relief society meetings. Don't lose focus on the purpose.

QuercusQate
Wasatch Co., UT

I believe women miss out on a great many blessings by not having the priesthood. I remember how chagrined I felt (on my mission) when I didn't have the honor of conferring the Holy Ghost upon new converts I had taught. I wanted to be able to lay my hands on their heads and speak my heart to them. Similarly, I've wanted to be able to anoint and pray for the sick.

Women also have a disadvantage because they can't hold leadership positions over the congregations. Women would make excellent bishops and administrators in the LDS Church. Indeed, not being able to administrate even while being a full tithe-payer is akin to "taxation without representation," something the US colonists justifiably protested.

O'really
Idaho Falls, ID

Those women are so hard up!! Yes, I'm judging them. What a stupid waste of energy. Don't they know they can read the priesthood talks in The Ensign magazine if they are so curious? I don't believe they really care at all about what is spoken in that meeting. Their presence will only detract from the spirit of the meeting because it's done only to make a show of themselves. It's a selfish motive. And anything done in selfishness in this fashion is detrimental to self and others.

I believe they will one day be sorry for the fuss they're making.

Zoniezoobie
Mesa, AZ

I think alot of fathers won't want to give up the tradition of attending with their young sons, or going out for ice cream afterwards!

There may be alot of ice cream businesses that suffer from the loss of that twice annual crowd after priesthood, especially along the Wasatch Front. Let's hope not.

As for me, I enjoy watching the messages on the Relief Society and Young Women broadcasts, but I wouldn't want to attend in person..those are special meetings for mothers and daughters as well.

WesleyZufelt
Pueblo West, CO

The Priesthood is everlasting. The Saviour, Moses, and Elias gave the keys to Peter, James, and John, on the mount, when they were transfigured before him. The Priesthood is everlasting—without beginning of days or end of years—without father, mother, &c. If there is no change of ordinances, there is no change of Priesthood. Wherever the ordinances of the Gospel are administered, there is the Priesthood.

How have we come at the Priesthood in the last days? It came down, down, in regular succession. Peter, James, and John had it given to them, and they gave it to others. Christ is the Great High Priest; Adam next. Paul speaks of the Church coming to an innumerable company of angels; to God, the Judge of all—the spirits of just men made perfect; to Jesus, the Mediator of the new covenant, &c. (Heb xii. 23.)

President JOSEPH SMITH, in Commerce, Illinois, Tuesday, June 2, 1839.

Hamath
Omaha, NE

@ Riversoffun
and others who think not having the priesthood means being left out..

Marxist is right. At least here in Omaha, generally more balance exists in the church where men hold the priesthood than outside of it. Women and men both share administrative duties in the church. For instance, when the Bishop wants to help someone with some Welfare need, he does so only after a home visit is conducted under the direction of a women in the Relief Society.

Local examples... As the Cubmaster, I, a man, report directly to the Primary President, a women. Male 11 year old scout leaders do the same. Women, in a similar fashion report to men who preside over the Sunday School. During the last move in the ward, the Elders quorum ran under the guidance and direction of the Relief Society because they had a stronger connection to the individual being moved. A young women conducted the last joint youth activity and the time before it was conducted by a young man.

Bastiatarian
TUCSON, AZ

>self-respect

Every attempt to pressure/guilt/threaten the First Presidency into changing doctrine/policy/practice in the Church is wholly and firmly SELF-centered, regardless of which navel-gazing mob has decided to create God in its own image. It's about personal pet issues rather than serving God.

A "respectful request" to God's anointed is not made by forming a pressure group and making a spectacle of yourSELF. Attempting to attend the Priesthood Session when you know you can't makes it vividly clear that it's merely a publicity stunt designed to draw attention to yourSELF.

Let's say that a man is a faithful, worthy, and active Elder, but that most men his age are High Priests. Should he lose "self-respect" because of that? Or because he teaches Nursery instead of being called to be Bishop? My sacred covenant is to do the Lord's will, whenever, wherever, and however HE stipulates. It's not about ME.

Whether one is a man or a woman, dependence--to any degree--on a calling or position for "self-respect" suggests deeper issues that should be resolved before considering taking on more responsibility.

MediumHarris
Provo, UT

Good to see some positive changes lately as the result of bringing issues up with church leadership. There is room for faithful agitation while waiting for further revelation in the church. And we all benefit from it.

O'really
Idaho Falls, ID

If men and women are supposed to be exactly equal in all things in the church, I would get a good laugh at men trying to be Primary, YW or RS presidents.

People, we are given different responsibilities for a reason. Think about it! And some prayer wouldn't hurt either.

San Diego Chargers Fan
San Diego, CA

I will be so happy when women can finally take over the jobs of scoutmaster, bishopric, ward clerk and home teacher. Then I can stay home and play video games. I can finally work on my golf swing. I can then go to the beach more and let somebody else deal with all those responsibilities.

Apocalypse please
Bluffdale, UT

I have a feeling that sometime in the future when women get the priesthood we will look back and shake our heads at all this. Kind of like the way we look at blacks and the priesthood now. I would imagine in the future that the official position for denying women the priesthood will also be similar: we don't know why that happened.

lumanwalters
plano, TN

The sexism I am seeing here is jaw dropping. I can't believe these are adults who are still gripping to gender roles. Where is people's common sense? You don't even have to be smart to figure out that you can't paint people with broad brush(as the people against women's ordination are doing here).

This isn't a cry for attention. Was the march from selma to montgommerry a cry for attention? Was susan b anthony just crying for attention? On the streets of saigon when a monk doused himself in gas, sat on the street in the lotus position and set himself a blaze, was that just an act??? What about on the national mall 50 years ago? Were those people just cry babies? Tell me, do you think they just misguided? They had their seats like everybody else, just in the back of the bus so what were they complaining about right?That's how you guys sound to me. All I see from the people defending the church is hate hate hate, fear fear fear.

kim c
DFW, TX

As a woman, I am so confused where these feelings of being "less-than" or "unequal to men" come from. God created men and women. He decided that men were to be ordained with His power. Jesus Christ established His church on the earth. We have a prophet of God who leads and guides our church in accordance to the will of God. I trust that God knows best and that He has a plan. I would ask Kate Kelly why she feels the need to stage a political point when what's at hand is spiritual in nature. If you have a question about something the Lord has designated or His prophet has said, ask God. Study the scriptures and words of the prophets. Maybe even after all that, you won't feel like you completely understand. Maybe that is when you choose to have faith. I don't claim to understand everything about the Gospel or previous revelations. I am pretty sure I won't in this life. But I know God loves me and cares for me as He does all of us and I trust that He will answer all my questions in His time.

no fit in SG
St.George, Utah

@Well ok,
You are right in the sense that it would be extremely interesting watching men having to change rolls.
How many LDS men would agree to be the mom at home, and the mom at work outside of the home?
How many of these Priesthood holders would be willing to continually make certain everything is perfect in their homes, and in the life of the "newest" Priesthood holder?
How would they handle a frequently absent spouse?
Our Grandmothers and many of our mothers never sat down for dinner until their husband was comfortable and well fed(not to mention everything else they had to accomplish in their subservient roll).
Anyone see a male doing this?

Utah Native
Farmington, UT

Obedience is the first law of the gospel, and a person ordained to the priesthood must be obedient to God's laws in order to use that priesthood power (to bless others, never for himself, by the way). These protesting women need to seek first to obey the counsel of the Lord rather than counsel Him, and through obedience to His ways develop their own testimonies of how He operates.

Apocalypse please
Bluffdale, UT

I can think of two other times in the past where social pressure brought about positive change.

Meadow Lark Mark
IDAHO FALLS, ID

My question is when did this Kelly lady in the article become the Prophet of the Lord? Who ordained her the prophet? When did this happen and why did I not know about it? She seems to feel she knows best what women need and don't need. Her stance, to me, shows a extreme amount of arrogance on her part--to assume that she knows what is best for women of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Isn't that President Monson's job as the prophet? At least that is what I believe.

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