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Published: Tuesday, Sept. 24 2013 11:55 a.m. MDT

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just-a-fan
Bountiful, UT

I am so tired of these special interest groups whining about things. The Priesthood is what it is and the church will never allow gay couples to be married in the temples. People who are members of the church who harass leaders of the church and make a mockery of their leadership should be excommunicated.

frgough
Colorado Springs, CO

Ladies, if you want to exercise priesthood power, authority and ordinances, go work in the temple.

Wastintime
Los Angeles, CA

@79Ute
I agree that there are two reasonable arguments for not allowing the group of women to attend. But there are many more reasonable arguments FOR allowing the group of women to attend the meeting. Some of them are, (1), the content is available to everybody on a real-time basis so it seems arbitrary to exclude certain people from attending; (2) we want to be viewed as a religion that “all are welcome” to attend; (3) excluding the women has greatly publicized their cause (who had even heard of their organization before they were turned down?); (4) there is no doctrinal reason to exclude them; (5) excluding the women creates bad PR (for very PR sensitive Church) that in the past has excluded certain groups (e.g. Blacks) from full participation in the gospel for reasons unknown; (6) the beautiful messages of conference might very well be overshadowed by the hubbub surrounding excluding women from this one televised session.

docdages
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

NoCoolName_Tom.

I do not think that women will ever be allowed to receive the priesthood of God. Please read below.

Gordon B. Hinckley, prior President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, said:

“Women do not hold the priesthood because the Lord has put it that way. It is part of His program. Women have a very prominent place in this Church. Men hold the priesthood offices of the Church. But women have a tremendous place in this Church. They have their own organization. It was started in 1842 by the Prophet Joseph Smith, called the Relief Society, because its initial purpose was to administer help to those in need. It has grown to be, I think, the largest women’s organization in the world... They have their own offices, their own presidency, their own board. That reaches down to the smallest unit of the Church everywhere in the world...

“The men hold the priesthood, yes. But my wife is my companion. In this Church the man neither walks ahead of his wife nor behind his wife but at her side. They are co-equals in this life in a great enterprise.”

Stable thought
FORT MORGAN, CO

Qoute by:
Ranch
Here, UT
"The sexism on this thread is apparent. Just wow you guys. Wow."+

Ranch.....these are the true sexism comments, when a man cannot state a opinion in a respectful way he no matter how it is delivered is somehow sexist.

So let me put a little shock into this tread by saying:

This is God's order of things, men are the patriarchs and women are the matriarchs and each when following God's plan grow to the greatest potential and live out the purpose of their creations. Now that is a beautiful concept.

andyr
medford, OR

I think here is a good place to paraphrase Irina Dunn's (no relation to Paul H) famous witticism often attributed to Gloria Steinem: "A woman needs [the priesthood] like a fish needs a bicycle."

Dennis
Harwich, MA

There is no such thing as "Gods Plan". Our agency gives us the right to do as we please and there is no plan in place that we have to live our lives and tow the line to some "plan" that nobody every told us about.
With the exception of Hinduism ever single religion on earth was started up by a "man". After 61 years in the Church I'm thinking that becoming a Hindu makes a little more sense than listening to the constant berating of women, non-mormons and everything else the Church judges that doesn't follow the "plan".
I posted earlier that a young man might need a ride to conference but his Mom wouldn't be allowed in. It was remarked that somebody in the Ward would take him. I grew up in an affluent ward on the east bench and not once ever offered a ride to general priesthood meeting. Ever.

FT1/SS
Virginia Beach, VA

Their will always be those who will continue to follow the arm or man/woman, and not the lord.

Brahmabull
sandy, ut

Maybe the women have recieved personal revelation that they should hold the priesthood. If so, they are entitled to voice their opinion on the matter. And to those who say just obey and don't ask questions or question anything... that is just bad advice all around.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

re:Dennis
"After 61 years in the Church I'm thinking that becoming a Hindu makes a little more sense than listening to the constant berating of women, non-mormons and everything else the Church judges that doesn't follow the "plan". "

Amen!

This topic has been extremely revealing of what lies in LDS member's hearts--and it ain't pretty, not at all.

lqqk
pocatello, ID

If Kate Kelly doesn't have enough to do, have I got a list for her!!

zoar63
Mesa, AZ

@Brahmabull

"Maybe the women have recieved personal revelation that they should hold the priesthood. If so, they are entitled to voice their opinion on the matter. And to those who say just obey and don't ask questions or question anything... that is just bad advice all around."

A man or a woman cannot receive revelation as to how the church is to be governed only the first Presidency and the Twelve are allowed that. You can receive personal revelation in relation to your selves and your families, Church policy or doctrine.. no

Behold, mine house is a house of order, saith the Lord God, and not a house of confusion.
(D&C 132:8)

jimhale
Eugene, OR

Inviting yourself to a meeting to which you were not invited may be "creative". It might possibly be "courageous".
But it is decidedly NOT being "faithful".

The giving of the priesthood is not based on ability. It is simply an assignment.

Agitating for the priesthood is like an elder inviting himself to be a high priest or a high priest inviting himself to a meeting of the Quorum of the Twelve. It is like demanding a voice in who is to be the gospel doctrine teacher ... or the second counselor in the bishopric....or the president of the relief society.

When people are determined to over throw the established order of the Church, they are no longer believing members. They no longer believe in revelation, authority, unity of the faith, etc.

They are Latter Day Saints in name only.

Utes11
Salt Lake City, Utah

The "Levitical Priesthood" ended when Jesus came and established the new covenant. ALL are welcome to have a personal relationship with him. Therefore you don't need to be married to a "priesthood holder" to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. Men of color used to be excluded from the "preisthood", not allowing women is just another way that the MEN who do hold it can "keep power". Jesus said, "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. – Mark 16:15-16

Notice he said, "WHOEVER"....not "Men who believe"

The Caravan Moves On
Enid, OK

Article quote: "It is the hope of the church that the priesthood session will strengthen the men and young men including fathers and sons, and give them the opportunity to gather and receive instruction related to priesthood duties and responsibilities,” church spokeswoman Ruth Todd said Tuesday in a letter to the group, "much the same way parallel meetings are held for sisters, such as the general Relief Society meeting. "It’s for these reasons that tickets for the priesthood session are reserved for men and young men and we are unable to honor your request for tickets or admission.""

So let me get this straight....

Women want men who are responsible, intelligent, mature and spiritually aware.

Yet, when men have an opportunity to attend a meeting that would instruct and encourage men in such things, those same women want to push men OUT of that meeting so THEY can attend.

Does that make sense to you?

It doesn't make sense to me, either.

Some women, and some men, too, are likely to choose to lose their testimony over this issued.

So be it. You can't make someone stay if they don't really want to stay...

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@jimhale
"The giving of the priesthood is not based on ability."

Ability to answer correctly to a list of questions while being a certain age and possessing a particular anatomical part.

defender
TWIN FALLS, ID

@aggie1
The prophet is infallible when speaking on behalf of The Lord. If you choose to be critical you do it at your own risk. I'm not calling you to repentance I'm just saying your position is inconsistent with some one who has a testimony and holds a current recommend. I think what we have here folks is someone who weak and needs a little strengthening. I wish you the best.

stnicoll
mesa, AZ

to zoar63

The women did not receive personal revelation to hold the priesthood--that is not within their stewardship in such--would be no different than one claiming to receive revelation on how the church should run--or who should be the next prophet, apostle, stake president--those are not within the stewardship of any lay member--so if one claims to receive such-he/she is being deceived--because that is not in the order of the Lord's church

skeptic
Phoenix, AZ

Church corporations that receive American tax exception should be legally restricted from imposing glass ceilings on women's rights and opportunities to achieve becoming president of the corporation.

LittleDrummerMan
,

Why would we want another meeting? The 14th Article of Faith: We believe in meetings, all that have been scheduled, all that are now scheduled, and we believe that there will yet be many great and important meetings scheduled. We have endured many meetings and hope to be able to endure all meetings. Indeed, we may say that if there is a meeting or anything that resembles a meeting or anything that we may possibly turn into a meeting, we seek after these things.

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