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Dick Harmon: Will BYU quarterback Taysom Hill develop into an accurate passer?

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  • LMA Whittier, CA
    Oct. 28, 2013 2:45 p.m.

    I'm reading this in October, after Boise State. Funny.

  • football_fan Murray, UT
    Sept. 28, 2013 6:26 p.m.

    Why wait for Hill to get better when you have Ammon Olsen sitting there? Olsen is hands down a better passer. Put him in and give him a shot.

  • Ronald Uharriet SWun City, Ca.
    Sept. 26, 2013 12:02 a.m.

    Am I mistaken, or don't most college teams watch game films just before the game to be fresh on what their apposition
    may do during the game?

    Why are we taking field trips just before the game to a Prison for substance abuse? Could this have been done on the day or two after the Rivalry game? Isn't this just pushing the importance of football just a little too far down the line?
    Couldn't the family weekend outing have waiting until after this all important game?

    If football isn't really all that important to the head coach, how can we expect football to be all that important to the assistant coaches or perhaps, even the players?

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    Sept. 25, 2013 10:26 a.m.

    "MESOUTE

    Albany, NY

    Wow. After the TX game BYU fans were ready to market this kid as a Heisman Finalist. Now they want him fired? Which is it Provo?"

    Please share some of those posts with us. All I saw was fans stating that the Virginia loss was an anomaly...which clearly it wasn't.

  • grizzly125 sl, UT
    Sept. 25, 2013 8:48 a.m.

    TAYSOM TEBOW!

  • Benderman1 Layton, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 5:09 p.m.

    Dick, you forgot one thing. BYU has now decided to change to a read option offense. That offensive style caters to a running quarterback and will likely not give Hill as much of a chance to perfect those timing passes. Hill needs plays such as quick three step drop passes 5-7 yards out to a slant receiver. He needs to be able to dump it off to his running backs or tight ends. Instead, Anae likes to call running plays up the middle or long 20 yard pass plays. That is not going to help develop a new quarterback. We need the Anae 1.0 offense back with more balanced play calling. This read option offense was a horrible idea.

  • dustman Gallup, NM
    Sept. 24, 2013 4:44 p.m.

    I wonder if going back to a huddle is the way to go. This hurry offense only seems to freak out our own offense.

  • sg newhall, CA
    Sept. 24, 2013 4:39 p.m.

    No. An emphatic NO! Nice guy but a terrible passer. The QB choices lately have been dismal lately. Whatever happened to the days of QBs like McMahon, Young, Wilson, Nielsen? I don't care how much a QB can run (if he can, fine, make him a running back or a wide receiver), but like Hill who is a running QB, once you shut down the run, the team is dead in the water and it showed last week. I predicted Utah would shut down the run and viola, they won. I believe BYU will win this Friday and the rest of the year will lose all their games, especially with this type of offense. They might beat Boise State; but not Notre Dame, Wisconsin, Utah State. I don't foresee Anae as the offensive coordinator after this year.

  • wallyball SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 4:02 p.m.

    Every team has dropped passes, that's part of the game. The problem is when you have a QB with no touch, and who is wildly erratic, the number of drops probably increases. I just read that when throwing on 3rd and 7 or longer this season, Hill has completed 1 of 24 passes. That pretty well sums up where things are at for me. I don't see an easy fix.

  • WisCoug VERONA, WI
    Sept. 24, 2013 3:56 p.m.

    It is not my intention to make excuses, but those of you interested in a pretty in-depth look at nearly every pass Hill made should check out former BYU linebacker Brandon Ogletree's blog. Here is his summary:
    "By my count, out of Taysom Hill's 30 incomplete passes; 8 were dropped by receivers, 4 were receiver miscues, 4 were intentionally thrown out of bounds, 2-3 were Hail Mary-type throws. 10-12 passes were legitimately bad throws that didn't have a chance of being caught, including 1 interception and 4 breakups. It's easy to look at the box score and declare that Taysom can't throw a football, but I don't think that tells the full story. A handful of Hill's completions actually required a high level of skill, and when he got into a rhythm he looked very fluid and natural throwing the football. I'm not saying he's Aaron Rodgers, but I'm also not ready to admit that he can't be a starting D1 quarterback."

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Sept. 24, 2013 3:35 p.m.

    I think Patriot has it right.
    Give Hill the rest of this year to develop. I know he is much better than he has shown. In High School he was about 65%. Even last year he was better than he is now. His passing HAS to get better. If it doesn't, open the position up for competition in the off season, but not until then.

    On a side note, I watched in awe Peyton Manning last night. With all his talents his best is reading defenses. And most of his passes have a soft touch and more zip when it needs to be. He doesn't try to drill it through the receiver's chest every time. A young college QB could learn a ton from just watching Peyton Manning.

  • Silent Lurker Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 3:17 p.m.

    The Yners are out in full force again. Before the season it was just wait Hill will show them Undefeated and BCS this year. Week one Virginia lucked out with the weather we are the better team. Week two we are back now here we come after all we just kicked Texas to the curb. Week three with an eXtra week prep, rest and time to heal, being at home, this time we own Utah, BYU by 50, no way we lose. Week four Utah didn't win, the refs gave it to them again we are the better team. Week five after another gimmie game this time we are really back everthing is fixed we are really undefeated. Don't we have a trend here?

  • Silent Lurker Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 3:15 p.m.

    The Yners are out in full force again. Before the season it was just wait Hill will show them Undefeated and BCS this year. Week one Virginia lucked out with the weather we are the better team. Week two we are back now here we come after all we just kicked Texas to the curb. Week three with an eXtra week prep, rest and time to heal, being at home, this time we own Utah, BYU by 50, no way we lose. Week four Utah didn't win, the refs gave it to them again we are the better team. Week five after another gimmie game this time we are really back everthing is fixed we are really undefeated. Don't you see we have a trend here?

  • BGASH Provo, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 2:56 p.m.

    He led the offense ok against Utah. I blame our lack of success in the red zone on poor play calling. It's easy to blame Hill when his receivers are dropping passes left and right, and the pass coverage is decent at best. Taysom Hill is not Riley Nelson. It's time for BYU fans to shut up and give the quarterback some time to develop. He is mature and disciplined, he just needs to work on his touch. He will get there by the end of the season.

  • Big J Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 2:20 p.m.

    ClarkHippo

    I stand corrected. Your right, I should have said “highly unlikely” or “very remotely” or some other like phrase. So please substitute some phrase in place of “never” that still leaves the door slightly cracked open. I personally have trouble imagining that world.

    I guess BYU could end up with the top 22 athletes in the nation coming out of high school who happen to all be LDS and what to attended BYU.

  • spiderwebwebb75 Utah County, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 2:08 p.m.

    Change is role. Turn him into a half-back, then he can do what he does well, which is scramble for his life. Then he will have the ability to do some plays where he pretends to scramble, then stops and throws it.

    A second option is to fire the offense coordinator, like they did with poor Doman. Doman was the man...bring him back.

  • wer South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 1:31 p.m.

    Tebow averaged 66% completion rates in a much tougher schedule. Though, he did have receivers who could get open and catch the ball using well designed pass patterns.

  • ClarkeinAK Anchorage, AK
    Sept. 24, 2013 12:56 p.m.

    Heaps was 28-of-46 for Kansas with a couple of TDs and the team has already doubled its win total from last year. I'm sure the KU fans aren't complaining about their QB and whether he can learn accuracy, footwork, etc.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    Sept. 24, 2013 12:40 p.m.

    Again I ask, what QB has the coaches at BYU mentored into NFL Caliber that are coaching today and for the development of the QB? The U has DE, which has shown to have provided some help to Wilson.

    Go UTES!!

  • ClarkHippo Tooele, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 12:18 p.m.

    @Big J

    You said, "You are deluding yourself if you think BYU can build national relevance with who they can recruit. It will never happen."

    Never is a long time my friend. The winds of change are always in the air.

    Look at the U of U men’s basketball team as an example. There was a time when they were one of the most dominating teams in the country, even reaching the NCAA finals. And many Ute fans believed this domination would go on forever.

    Well, did it?

    Bronco Mendenhall took a losing BYU program and made them winners again. The problem now however is they’ve been on a plateau of sorts for several years now. Not getting worse, but not getting better either.

    But one should never assume that today’s outcome guarantees what tomorrow’s outcome will look like.

  • ClarkHippo Tooele, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 12:00 p.m.

    If we are to have any chance of beating Utah State, Georgia Tech, Boise State, Wisconsin or Notre Dame, Taysom is going to HAVE TO work out his QB problems.

    The past is in the past. The Utah Utes have proved they are the best team in Utah in 2013. I totally get that.

    But the Cougars have nine games left and there are few cupcakes this year. Even Middle Tennessee State and Houston are doing well so far.

    Right now, it is NOT a foregone conclusion that BYU will make the post season.

    It is time for Tysom and the Offense to prepare and prepare now!

  • Stringer Bell Henderson, NV
    Sept. 24, 2013 12:00 p.m.

    Interesting, all I've read for the past week is what a poor QB Steve Young was. Everyone's running him down won't make Hill's prospects any better. If I believed all of the comments then Steve Young was terrible until his last play of his last game, then headed to the Hall of Fame.

    I'm afraid that what you see is what you have with Hill. Forget about the "learning to throw" business.

  • morpunkt Glendora, CA
    Sept. 24, 2013 11:36 a.m.

    BYU must no longer be the destination for blue chip QBs. This needs to change.

  • Big J Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 11:04 a.m.

    Hochmut
    Clearly you did not read the article. It was on if Hill can become a passer. It was not on national relevance of BYU or Utah. Nationally neither team is relevant. So what? I really could careless which SEC team wins or losses. I live in Utah. It is apparent the BYU/Utah/USU games are important to the players and schools. That is why they need to be kept.

    You are deluding yourself if you think BYU can build national relevance with who they can recruit. It will never happen. Utah has that ability being a member of a power conference. They are in the club. It may happen, it may not. Utah has had some relevance in the last decade (2004 & 2008), BYU…..man, 1984 was a long time ago.

    Go Utes!

  • Big J Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 10:44 a.m.

    Dick. You are comparing apples to oranges. Steve Young came to BYU as an unknown and WORKED his way up the depth chart before being asked to run the offense. Additionally, Young was an option QB in high school rarely throwing.

    Hill was a passer in high school and had enough ability to draw a PAC-12 scholarship. I will grant you it takes time to work off the rust from a mission. So if there is rust, why is he playing? The dude is a stud in many ways but right now he cannot do the one thing BYU needs him to do. That of course is pass the football effectively.

  • duck Saint George, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 10:29 a.m.

    Everything about the quarterback has already been said, but if BYU is going to be a major powerhouse, it must have a confident quarterback who can throw the ball consistently and scare the heck out of opposing defenses. It can't always be in a training mode. What's more, in BYU's losses this year, one of the major problems were penalties. They killed drives, punt returns, etc. and gave our opponents second chances to keep their drives going and cash in on scores. That's a coaching matter as well as a players' problem. I realize some penalties are almost unavoidable, but most are not!!! Bronco, get after those guys! The goal should be ZERO careless penalties.

  • Porter-Rockwell Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 10:12 a.m.

    Taysom will be fine if three things happen:

    1: He learns to make all of his reads. He is not looking at all of his options. He is too anxious and does need to settle down.

    2. He needs easy completions. I was screaming at the game for him to throw quick over the middle to the TE. They finally did with the slot WR. Get the TE back involved in quick curls and shorts slants across the middle. Gets his confidence up.

    3. All this said he needs to improve/correct a) Reads b) footwork mechanics (which is tough to learn and practice in an option read rather than drop back offense) and PLEASE TAKE THE HIGH HEAT OFF THE BALL!!! It is like watching Walsh or Heaps all over again!. Heaps did learn to take a little off, but as you can see, he is still struggling too. Our receivers can't catch a hard and fast bullet every time!

  • Ironman SANTA CLARA, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 10:06 a.m.

    I remember the day when a BYU quarterback had to pay his dues and play JV ball his freshman and sophomore years, and sometimes his junior year too before he was allowed on the field as a varsity quarterback. By then Lavell knew if the QB had the chops to compete at the varsity level. Ty Detmer was a lone exception who was forced into action because favorite son Sean Covey was so inept.

    Bronco is an excellent defensive coach, but he has proven clueless when it comes to developing a QB or hiring an offense coordinator who can develop a QB.

    The buck stops with Bronco now.

  • VegasJazzFan ,
    Sept. 24, 2013 9:56 a.m.

    So, Deseret News writers have now compared Hill to Colin Kaepernick and Steve Young. Who will be his next comparison? Peyton Manning? If I continue reading the DN, I may be led to believe that Taysom Hill will eventually be a Hall of Famer.

  • Frogs, Fish, Windmills & Dams Garland, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 9:33 a.m.

    Hill has the capacity to be a good passer. Last year, he was 12/21 against Hawaii and 24/36 against Utah State. Bring his confidence back and improve communication between QB and receivers and he'll do fine.

  • AZguy Phoenix, AZ
    Sept. 24, 2013 9:29 a.m.

    Interesting article. I agree he needs reps and coaching. He also needs to know he is not going to get yanked. I think it comes down to coaching and recruiting. A QB does need to sit for a year or maybe even two and learn and they need to be recruited so there is time to sit for a year or two.

    t is a vicious cycle. A young QB plays, performs poorly, gets benched, then there is a mess, because the backup has no more experience. Missions do get in the way of recruiting, but they should be able to figure it out after 9 years.

  • MJB Tooele, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 9:19 a.m.

    All those commenting that Hill should remain as the quarterback are Ute fans. They know that the best situation for the Utes is to have one that can't complete his passes. It's time to give Ammon Olsen the reins. Hill has had plenty of chances and has shown that he isn't a good passing quarterback.

  • Wally West SLC, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 9:18 a.m.

    per Uteology yesterday

    Hill is more fundamentally sound.

    Tebow, in Gainesville, had athletes on the that could turn a 3yd dump pass into a 45 yd gain.

    Additionally, Meyer schemed to Timmy's strengths. Byu now has a similar strategy to my beloved Dolphins when Feidler, Wannstedt, & Ricky W were in S Fla... 2 dives and a really bad 6 yd out pattern on 3rd & 8.

  • cork Murray, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 9:16 a.m.

    What I'd like to see is the truth in Harmon's summertime articles saying, forget this year folks, this kid won't produce for blah blah blah reasons. We're all tired of the incessant hype that we're going to be world beaters, yada yada yada.

    Our collective fault for believing the hype and building our personal expectations. Harmon's for being the lackey lap dog in fueling those expectations. This season was over before it began, in reality. Anae should never have been brought back. What didn't work before is not working again. Play calling is his responsibility and what we saw against utah was enough to remind us that the Riley Nelson legacy lives on despite coaching changes.

    It's back to the same thing it always is: ticket money is entertainment dollars and what is being played out on the field isn't worthy of my dollars. My money will go elsewhere. Tickets up for sale.

  • Dixie Dan Saint George, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 9:10 a.m.

    No other school has recruited two #1's qb's in high school than the Y has with Ben Olson and Jake Heaps. The Y was so pitiful in the handling of these two prize recruits that both left school. Instead the Y goes with local boys. We suffered with Nelson and now we have Hill.
    When will the Y realize that there are more quality players outside of the Wasatch Front than in it?

  • Robert Rexburg, ID
    Sept. 24, 2013 9:09 a.m.

    He either came into the program as an accurate passer, or he's not going to be one. The failure here is for coaches to accurately evaluate his abilities, a failure that has plagued the Cougars for several years now.

    It's time to give another QB a chance. Forget feelings -- WIN!

  • Hochmut West Jordan, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 9:06 a.m.

    Some observations from my attendance at both losses at Virginia and Provo:
    1) The world outside of Utah doesn't really care about Utah or BYU football--it is a side show at best;
    2) For Utah to be relevant they need to win the PAC12 or be in the Conference Championship game each year--WSU, OSU, ASU, AZ, Cal...they are not relevant either so no one cares; Utah doesn't really gain any points by beating BYU;
    3) BYU doesn't get any kudos by beating Utah, so losing hurts their chances of making a national resume of their program--dump the Utes in the future;
    4) BYU wants to be recognized as a premier program and winning against national teams like ND, Wisconsin, OK, TX, Fl State, USC etc...that is the only way to prominance. So concentrate on those opponents and win those games--dump the Utes and USU--they don't add value;

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Sept. 24, 2013 8:56 a.m.

    He's going to be a fine passer; BYU needs to stick with him!

  • evansrichdm west jordan , UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 8:45 a.m.

    MESOUTE

    where did you hear BYU saying on the NC? Have our first game it was clear this was not the year, but maybe if we allow a new O to develop in the future. It will still be a winning season I beleive and then in a couple of years BYU will be a good power house if they are patient this year and maybe the next year.

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 8:32 a.m.

    He was horrible Saturday, and Hoffman's body language showed his frustration. Also, he didn't make great reads on the option. Even worse, Anae called plays that Hill couldn't execute. He isn't capable of throwing the corner fade in the end zone, and that rugby option call was ridiculous.

  • SoCal Roger Costa Mesa, CA
    Sept. 24, 2013 8:30 a.m.

    I know BYU needs to have some consistency at QB, but I think Robert A. should consider doing what he has been doing on the O-line. Have the QB earn their position every week.

  • J-TX Allen, TX
    Sept. 24, 2013 8:07 a.m.

    Accurate? I'd settle for in the same zip code as his receivers.....

  • Beaver Native Garland, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 7:59 a.m.

    Question: What was Taysom Hill's passing efficiency record coming out of high school?

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 7:57 a.m.

    I expect to see marked improvement throughout the season in Taysom's passing. Taysom has a much stronger arm than Riley. He just needs to fine tune his mechanics.

  • earthquakejake Logan, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 7:42 a.m.

    I don't think he's that bad of a passer. He's made some pretty nice passes at times. I think it's a mixture of a poor offensive line and receivers dropping passes. However, I don't see him ever being better than Riley Nelson.

  • IQ92 hi, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 3:36 a.m.

    Year after year, BYU recruiting tends to be in the 40 to 60 range (except the for the year Heaps was recruited, namely 22nd). Year after year, the national champion comes from the team who recruits in the top 10.

    As a BYU fan, I am very impressed when their football team ends up ranked in the top 25, but I'm not at all surprised or disappointed when they end up ranked in the 40-60 range. Seems to make sense to me—unless a person thinks religion actually is a big factor. To me, however, all the sunday school in the world don't make fast-twitch muscles.

    Lavell was the smart one back when he said there was no reason to get out of the WAC. Clever man. Winning 10 fun games and enjoying a bowl was enough.

    My team doesn't HAVE TO be top 20 to be fun to watch and fun to root for. Go pretty fast and go fun.

  • mountain man Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 2:13 a.m.

    I like hill the way he is. He is one of the best players on our team. And let me tell you, we need as many good ute players as we can get.

  • Uncle Rico Sandy, UT
    Sept. 24, 2013 12:00 a.m.

    I like Taysom Hill, but as a D1 QB, we should not be having a conversation about him "Developing"
    BYU cannot fall in love with Taysom as we did Riley and watch the whole season unravel. Ammon time.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Sept. 23, 2013 11:54 p.m.

    Sure Hill could develop but I am highly doubtful he will. He seems like a high character guy. He will get humbled this year even more. But it's not all his fault. His coaches aren't putting him in positions to succeed and the O line is still a question mark to me. It's hard for a passer so inaccurate to become a legit thrower of the football, but bad mechanics, and especially inconsistent footwork might be doable to correct.

  • MESOUTE Albany, NY
    Sept. 23, 2013 11:41 p.m.

    Wow. After the TX game BYU fans were ready to market this kid as a Heisman Finalist. Now they want him fired? Which is it Provo?

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Sept. 23, 2013 11:34 p.m.

    In limited action last year, Hill looked like a much better passer than he does this year. I didn't put a lot of weight on the QB rating after game 1 because of the weather, and I wrote off game 2 because Hill "took what the defense gave him" which was the run.

    But after game 3 . . . I'm starting to wonder. Let's face it, Utah's defense is not what it's been the past decade. Even an average QB, should have completed 50% against them.

    Sure the O line isn't the brick wall it's been in some prior seasons, and sure the receivers are dropping some balls, and sure the coaching could be better, but the majority of this is on Hill. I give him one more game against MTSU. If his accuracy is still below 50%, it's time to give Ammon a try.

    Now, if I'm the coach, I give Hill a lot more short passes. They're easier to complete, and the routes are more predictable to run. Let's get this turned around.

  • BlackDiamond Provo, UT
    Sept. 23, 2013 11:23 p.m.

    I thought that a QB strength was suppose to be his passing game. Looks like we have a QB who can't really pass and a goal kicker who can't kick field goals. It's like saying I'm a linebacker but I can't tackle.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 23, 2013 10:40 p.m.

    Taysom would be much better playing on the other side of the ball.

  • Cincinnatus Kearns, UT
    Sept. 23, 2013 10:38 p.m.

    "Making diamonds out of coal is what BYU has a tradition of doing at QB."

    Yes, but...

    Heaps.
    Nelson.
    Hill.

    BYU's own web page called, "Quarterback Factory" stops in 2009 at Max Hall.

    You've got to have two things to make diamonds from coal: heat and pressure, or in this case, talent and coaching.

    Which one is lacking?

  • wYo8 Rock Springs, WY
    Sept. 23, 2013 10:25 p.m.

    BYU hardly ever develops a quarterback. Young may be the exception. If the QB had it before they showed up to BYU then they succeeded. If they were average they were average when they left. This has been a problem dating back to LaVell's era, Shoemaker, Covey, Feterick, Engaman, etc. Even our beloved Chow could not develop average into great. Its either they can't develop or they cannot evaluate talent. Hopefully Hill is like Young.

  • frugalfly PULLMAN, WA
    Sept. 23, 2013 10:10 p.m.

    O line is a mess. Receivers are unstable. Should have hired Ben Cahoon to be the receivers coach. That guy could catch a falling star. If that guy touched a ball it was caught. Best hands I have ever seen at BYU. Not convinced that the QB coach is good. More time will tell. I am surprised Utah wasn't up by 20 at the end of the game. Game wasn't secure until the time read 0:00. BYU is the best defense Utah will see all year. BYU is the worse offense Utah will see outside of Weber State. All that adds up to a 7 point win which wasn't secure until the clock was at 0:00. Utah has a right to be happy but no right to brag or feel secure. They just beat the worst quarterback in the country by a mere 7 points and he was knocking on the doorstep all game long... none of BYU quarterbacks were great when they came to BYU. They were made great by BYU. We need to resurrect some of that ability in Provo. Making diamonds out of coal is what BYU has a tradition of doing at QB.

  • Fuzz Springville, UT
    Sept. 23, 2013 10:09 p.m.

    Can't believe what I'm reading from both Dick and the commenters. This is the same article we read last year defending not replacing Nelson. I have read this before. Hill is not a starting QB. If he ever develops into one, then start him. Put him on the bench until then. He should never have been the starter. Should have been Olsen from the beginning. The only reason he is starting is because Bronco feels bad about his injury last year. He's not ready. Yank him.

  • Cincinnatus Kearns, UT
    Sept. 23, 2013 9:57 p.m.

    "...and Mendenhall will continue to evolve into a head coach."

    This is his 9th year as head coach at BYU. How long should it take to "evolve into a head coach?" His 12th year? His 20th?

    He doesn't have that much time. If he doesn't win some of the big games THIS season (having lost to Utah again), BYU fans calling for his head are going to get louder and louder. Especially if what was once one of the most pass dominant teams in the nation continues to have a quarterback that ranks dead last.

    He has a great defense. One that can hang with 85-90% of teams in the country. But you've got to put points on the board to win, and you can't count on the D to always do that for you. If he can't step up above being the defensive coordinator, reign in Anae's lackadaisical play calling, and make the tough decisions about QB's, he's going to end up back at the DC position. You can't be so focused on one or two things (ie. Crowton) that you lose control of the rest.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Sept. 23, 2013 9:43 p.m.

    Hill can't get any worse. Today he is rated #120, dead last, in the nation according to ESPN. If he can learn to throw like Tebow, it will be an improvement.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Sept. 23, 2013 9:29 p.m.

    I'm a little more optimistic about Hill. He has the running ability few quarterbacks have. It also seems that the deficiencies in his throwing game are mental, not athletic. Maybe backing off the "go fast go hard" philosophy a little until hill and his receivers are on the same page will pay dividends. Running 90 offensive plays a game sounds impressive until you factor in all the incompletes and passes for short yardage and little gain after the catch. Right now "go fast go hard" is doing little more than speeding up the mess.

  • truth_avenger Lehi, UT
    Sept. 23, 2013 9:15 p.m.

    Let's be realistic, if the Utes were the powerhouse they think themselves to be they would have run all over BYU. An outstanding defense kept the Utes at bay and keep the offense in the game. Remember the unstoppable Colin Kapernick? Remember Urban Meyer? They turned out to be human. Taysom Hill will continue to learn under the scrutiny of "fans". Robert Anae inherited a mess, Doman had a good college career but he was no offensive coordinator. Anae will adjust and Mendenhall will continue to evolve into a head coach. The team needs to win the mental game against Utah, Kyle knows the self-destruct buttons to push and his teams beat BYU. On occasion Utah managed some impressive wins, even over good teams, so has BYU ans so will BYU. Don't abandon ship, I can guarantee that USC, UCLA Oregon and Stanford are not re-thinking their game plans in fear of Utah; and I don't think anyone if planning on the U in Pasadena in January. Take a deep breath, we've already seen the sun come back up, have some faith in these people who are under so much pressure to succeed.

  • Pendergast Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 23, 2013 8:37 p.m.

    re: Kralon

    If there is hope for Taysom; there is hope for Tebow? Disagree on both counts.

  • Kralon HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA
    Sept. 23, 2013 8:26 p.m.

    It takes time to develop into a good passer. As mentioned in the article Steve Young wasn't very good until his Senior year, even though he started a couple of games as a Sophomore (when McMahon was hurt). As a Junior, Steve threw SIX interceptions against Georgia.

    What I'm saying is if Taysom does become a good passer it isn't likely to happen this year and maybe not even next year. We also need to remember that BYU doesn't have as much emphasis on passing as it did in the past which might slow down the development of Taysom's passing skills.

  • evansrichdm west jordan , UT
    Sept. 23, 2013 7:51 p.m.

    patriot

    I agree give the kid some time to get better. The last year of Beck and then the good four year of hall made us spoiled as BYU fans. Wilson has all last year to get experience and look at the pay off for the U. If we as a football team want to ever have a good or great year we need to let Hill and those that follow him develop and stop all this we what a championship ever year, there are going to be some rough years to let our player get experience and improve.

  • UtahBy44 Beaver, UT
    Sept. 23, 2013 7:21 p.m.

    @ trueblue87
    "Yes he will, but other components of the offense need to improve as well: receivers not drop passes, offensive line give him more protection."

    Hill has had plenty of time and protection. Here is a common sense look at the Cougs problem; Is it just one receiver or a number of them dropping the ball?

    If its just one, its that receivers problem but, if all your receivers are dropping the ball you need to look at the Q. Something is wrong with his delivery, he may have to much pepper on it, if thats the case the coaching staff needs to work with him on "touch" oh yes and on over throws.

    Sign Bronco for 10 more years

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Sept. 23, 2013 7:12 p.m.

    I think you give Hill this year and then sort it out after the season. Hill is not a traditional drop back passer and thus he doesn't see the field as well as he should. Hill was recruited to be in the Doman offense and he does fit that perfectly...but that offense is gone (thank goodness) but it seems like some of it remains for Hills sake...to maximize his effectiveness you have to use him as a runner first and thrower second. BYU has a problem obviously. Either they return to being a drop back pass offense or they continue with this hybrid thing. To be a good drop back pass offense again they need the talent at the QB position and I don't know yet if they have such a kid in the program. Anae is a good coach but he is handicapped trying to make the best use of what he has. John Beck was pretty inconsistent until his senior year and then he blossomed. Can the Hill kid do the same as Beck? Is BYU willing to wait and risk it?

  • trueblue87 Provo, UT
    Sept. 23, 2013 6:46 p.m.

    Yes he will, but other components of the offense need to improve as well: receivers not drop passes, offensive line give him more protection.

  • Scott Farcus Beaver, UT
    Sept. 23, 2013 6:34 p.m.

    Dick Harmon: Will BYU quarterback Taysom Hill develop into an accurate passer?

    No