passsing game?? I was at the Utah game and I didn't see a 'passing
game'. I saw an option running game and that's about it. The only
passing was more like something you would see from Air Force Academy. Pathetic.
Hill can't throw ... period. The Y is no fun to watch anymore. Very sub par
program ...and getting worse... but the food is good and the pregame and half
time are fun for the kids so who cares about football anyway?
Anae is the problem. His offense has jr high technicallity. His rehire was a
mistake and may cost bronco his job too. You fired a dc in the middle of the
year for lack of performance, time to do it with this OC.
sid 6.7 wrote: "(Lavell) also very rarely recruited out of the state of
Utah." Here's a sample of his top QB recruits:Young - ConnecticutDetmer - TexasBosco - CaliforniaWilson -
WashingtonShiede - CaliforniaSarkisian - CaliforniaFeterik -
CaliforniaMcMahon - UtahNielson - Utah
It is really hard to see how far BYU has fallen. Losing to teams like Utah and
Virginia who are bottom of the barrel in their conferences is shameful. Both
teams will likey have losing records. Sad...really sad.
Bulletin board material, a writer and talk show host on KTIK the ticket in
Boise, the meat ball Mike Prater, said today Tayson Hill is the worse quarter
back in division 1 football. He inferred BYU is nothing to worry about for Boise
State. I wonder, but don't think he is the worst however rain or shine
Taysom is 33 % in passing. is the OC calling the wrong plays? so many other
teams do a simple pitch and catch to a crossing route, or running back out of
the back field. I was at the Utah game and didn't have confidence we could
get it done in passing. what has the coach been looking at since last spring?
what is the percentage completion in practice? very frustrated in the play
calling. wake up!
There are several local high school QB's that could light up the U
secondary. It's utterly amazing that the much talked about awesome Taysom
Hill couldn't do it. Watching his performance was so much fun for me as a
Ute fan, I couldn't believe the balls that he was throwing! Some missed
targets by 10 yards and 10 feet in the air. Reminded me of my inebriated brother
in law trying to throw darts at ballons at the state fair. LOL!
Taysom Hill is playing on behalf of BYU, fans, the community and his church but
BYU fans deem it fit to savage this young man with their words. For shame.
Forget Ammon Olsen or Tanner what's-his-name. BYU could have Superman at QB
and manage to make him sub-human. Plays that were too predictable, no
adjustments against the D, overthrowing guys. We were flat out-coached and
out-played AGAIN by our rivals who recruit basically the same LDS and
Californians that BYU does. But they know how to get the best out of these kids.
Why in the world we would invite Anae to bring his same train wreck around for a
second time, I'll never know. Please no more "hurry-up"
offense. It's just stupid when we can't even run plays that we're
rushing the whole thing. What's the point??I agree with an
earlier poster, the fact that BYU is the lowest rated passing team in the whole
country is reason enough to FIRE ANAE TODAY!!! These coaches should all fall on
their swords. Dead last in the USA...sheesh!!
BYU's passing game has got to improve. If we continue with pass percentage
below 50%, we're going to find ourselves siting home in December.
BYU coaches blew it on that 4th and one when they had the momentum going.
Terrible coaching. I don't know what is going on down there in Provo but I
think the BYU football team is destined to be MEDIOCRE at best. I hope we BYU
fans have the stomach for it?
Last in the NCAA in passing??? I never thought I'd hear that phrase at
BYU...that is blaspheme!!!
As a former BYU quarterback commented after the game, "I always thought the
first criteria of a BYU quarterback was to able to throw the football!"how low we have gone...:(
Taysom Hill is a running back, plain and simple.. they need to run effectively,
they don't have the tools for the pass happy good old days
Taysom Hill is young, inexperienced, talented but unseasoned. Give him time to
grow. But the hurry up is silly. It just puts unnecessary pressure on our
The thing the Y fans always forget is when the Y had great QB's/Teams is
when Lavell Coached there. Mendinhall is no Lavell as much as he tries to be
like him on the sidelines and in post game interviews. You guys
have talked yourself into thinking the players go to the school because
it's BYU. Some maybe, but for most part nothing could be further from the
truth. College athletes end up at the schools they do because of the coaches and
what they can promise them. These kids could care less about facilities,
conferences and TV contracts. They want to be coached to be better players and
widen their chances of getting into the NFL or having their education paid for.
Lavells secret was he and his coaching staff had the ability to take
good players and turn them in to great players. He also very rarely recruited
out of the state of Utah. Sounds like what is happening up on the hill right
now. Of course it's no small coincidence that Kyle played for Lavell and
knows the system.BYU needs new coaches. Ones who are more concerned
with coaching then lip service.
Hill is a lot like Tebow, except Tebow threw for 68% (career). He also had a
passer rating of 170+ and rushed for just under 3000 yards. So other than that,
yes, they are the same.
COACHES SHOWING A LACK OF CONFIDENCE IN THEMSELVES AND/OR THE TEAMIn
the Texas game, the team marched down the field running the ball and then kicked
a field goal instead of going for the 1st down with inches to go. Whatever the
motives were, I know not, but this shows a lack of confidence in coaches and the
team. This srategy will come back to haunt the coaches as it did again in the
UTAH game.In the UTAH game, there were a couple of times when Hill
was short of the first down by inches and the coaches either kicked a field goal
or punted.Please don't play a football game where you play
"NOT TO LOSE", you will lose every close game. Play a game to WIN.Develop the plays and confidence in the players to execute those plays
on 4th AND INCHES.
It is about where we stood the last couple of years with Bronco's choice of
quarterback. He does not feel that throwing ability is necessary for a
quarterback. It looks to me that everything is tracking about the same, and the
results will be about the same as last year. No bowl game this year, but that
gives everyone more time off. The firesides are going well and the true blue
colors boosted sales at the bookstore. Win, that's number 5 or 6 or 7.
Not really very important. We certainly don't want any four star players
here, walk-ons work out best at practice. At practice, we have a great offense
and a great defense. It's the games that cause all the trouble.
COACHES need to build EMOTIONAL CONFIDENCE in their playersTaysom
Hill is a very talented quarterback, but there is anemotional side to
developing a quarterback in a game.Some games are more intense than
others and even the bestquarterbacks get the gitters. I feel than Hill was
nervous and it was affectinghis play and the need to relax. Where were the
coaches?In order to get a quarterback to relax, you take him out for
a few plays and put in another quarterback.I did this as a coach and
it has a relaxing affect on a player becausethe quarterback thinks that
all the responsibility is on his shoulders. It is not, but in the players mind,
it is.Some coaches have the mistaken impression this may cause
thequarterback to lose confidence. On the contrary, the quarterback gains
confidence because he now knows that there are quarterbacks there to help
off-load the pressure.In fact, a quarterback sees his position from
a different perspective. He is more anxious to get back in the action but has a
different mind-set and perspective.
Until BYU makes major changes in the coaching staff (Bronco to Defensive Coord
and then a new coach) and then gets aligned with a major conference again, they
will never achieve greatness again!
I guess TDS fans better hope that Mangum still decides to come back. As an
elite quarterback, do you want to have to run Anae's offense? One must
Anae's statement, "Obviously, our preparation wasn't good
enough" seems rather stupid since he had two weeks to prepare. That right
there says volumes about this coaching staff. Do you think an SEC
coach (or most any other top conference for that matter), with two weeks to
prepare, would have an offensive scheme that looked so pitiful? It would cost a
job at other schools (i.e., Texas). You would also think that being ranked dead
last in the nation would elicit more of a response than "Obviously, our
preparation wasn't good enough". Bench the QB, fire the
Bronco is amazing at organizing inspirational firesides. Running big football
program . . . not so much.
Well, I was surprised at the score. I really expected BYU to win this one,
despite Hills QB woes. My son, however, said Utah will put nine in the box and
stop Hill cold. He was right.So the big question is, do we hang with
Hill, an excellent athlete or switch to Olsen a better passer? We heard this all
last year, and when they did start Lark, he was mediocre at best and BYU won
with defense.I wonder if the fast play is an issue. Maybe too
fast.But I'm not a coach and didn't even see that game.
What do I know.
As I sat there Saturday night watching my thoughts kept returning to the
thoughtful comments made last week about number of stars behind a prospective
college player's name. I believe Chris B. made excellent points and as I
watched it became apparent that stars seem to make a difference. The edge
between winning a ball game and not winning can be ever so slight but those
deficiencies make the difference. Because of academic requirements, and Honor
Code requirements many starred athletes show little or no interest in playing
for BYU. It is pretty amazing that the Cougars are able to develop the caliber
of team effort they do with the men they commit to play. It is interesting to
see athletes become overacheivers through hard work and desire but the stars
sure do help overcome the obstacle of natural ability.
Look BYU fans we have a almost new QB. Hill will improve over time, we just wish
the improvement had come at this game. I think if it was the end of the season
Hill will be much better. KVL my heart goes out to because he really wanted this
and worked hard and gave his all to try to beat Utah. I do have hopes that BYU
will go to a bowl and that Utah will go to a bowl and the two meet up at the end
of the season. Give it time our best football day are ahead of us.
I attended the game on Saturday/Sunday. The passing game was abysmal
at best for BYU. Now ranked 114 out of 114 teams. Not always the QB's
fault.Bronco will make a great defensive coach on a good BCS team some
day. The stadium was very quiet. Rice Eccles is much louder. It may be
that most of the stadium is encircled or the fans were just so nervous. Many BYU fans behave very poorly. Throwing trash at fans and the umpires.
Poor language, poor sportsmanship.It felt like this game meant more to
BYU. The refs weren't great but they were consistent.
I'm not sure why coaches keep pointing to Hill's inexperience as a
sophomore.As a sophomore, Max Hall threw for 3,800 yards and 26
TD's.As a sophomore, Ty Detmer threw for 4,500 yards and 32
TD's.As a sophomore, John Walsh threw for 3,700 yards and 28
TD's.As a sophomore, Kevin Feterik threw for 2,700 yards and 16
TD's.Sophomores have flourished at BYU over the last three
decades.So it's either Taysom's passing or the offense.
I'm not anti-Hill -- he went to our local high school here in Pocatello.
But he's not missing by a little -- he's missing by a lot. He may become a great QB, but there is nothing wrong with seeing what Olsen
can do with the offense.
People in this forum should not have to be giving the Y's coaching staff
lessons in quarterbacking. Yet, something must happen to change things. Mistakes
in the Red Zone continue as they have for years for the Y. What is the solution
for this huge waste of money, manpower, and publicity regarding the Y football
program. It should not be stumbling at this point. They have serious problems of
managing and protecting the football. Could we hire Lavell as an adviser like
the Jazz hired Jerry?
"don't want a pesky team any more on their non-conference schedule who
can still beat them."Rocks:STILL beat them?
You're not speaking of BYU as that "pesky" team are you? If so,
it's kind of a sad in a little-brother sort of way--unless you're not
aware of the whole 9-of-12, 4-in-row thing.
Coach, I have a few ideas for you.Don't run a
stupid rugby pitch on first down on the goal line. This isn't rugby, it is
football, and by not gaining any yards on first down, you narrowed your options
on subsequent downs.Second, know what your 3rd and 13 play is, so
you don't have to call time out to get your act together. Doing that cost
you 40 seconds that would've been helpful on the last possession.Third, teach your 7' wideout to go up and fight for the ball, then fight
for the end zone rather than flop like Kobe.Fourth, don't call
a corner fade with Hill at QB. Doesn't matter who he has at wideout, he
can't throw that ball. C-A-N-'-T. Or few others. Might want to work
on that.Fifth, tighten up the rotation at OL. You should know
I like Hill, he is a very talented athlete. That being said, I cant wait for
Tanner Mangum to get back from his mission and remind all of us what it was like
to have a genuine passing QB at the helm. Even Jake Heaps was better under Anae
before Anae decided to go hard and go fast. Brandon Doman ruined Heaps chances
with his horrible style of offense. Pocket passers are always better. but even
Peyton Manning couldnt help us win if our O-line doesnt protect him.
BYU also needs to cut down on the penalties. Long gains and touchdowns brought
back because of holding or clips. Stupid mistakes that should not happen.
@SoonerUte- What do you mean by "When has he had the opportunity to pass in
game situations this year?" In the Virginia game he was 13/40. Against Texas
he was 9/26, and against Utah he was 18/48. He's had PLENTY of
opportunities to throw the ball, he's just not accurate. Why should they
have called more passes against Texas when the Longhorns were doing absolutely
nothing to stop him from running? If you find something that works, stick with
it. The unfortunate downside of that is what we saw happen on Saturday. Utah
defended the run and made Hill go to the air, which is clearly not his strength.
And it's not as though he doesn't have all the time in the world to
throw the ball. His O-line was giving him all night to make a play. The Cougs
would do well to spend a lot more time on developing Hill's accuracy if
they intend to keep him as their starter...GO UTES!!!
This one's easy: Hill can't throw accurately! If you want to have a
passing game, you need a different QB. End of story.
Wow. When was the last time an opposing coach said the key to beating BYU was to
"force them to throw the ball?" Last in the nation in passing. Gulp. The good news is Hill can run and BYU has some promising receivers. I
suspect if Hill can just get some basic mechanics down, he'll be able to
hit receivers on the numbers rather than four feet above their helmets. That
will make all the difference in the world and turn this around for the Cougars.
christoph"Utes have the Y's number, yet nobody
else's."Nothing makes Utah fans smile more than BYU fans
like yourself who have to point to wins by OTHER teams in order to get a jab in.
I don't see myself being as interested in BYU as long as they continue down
this path of focusing on a QB's running ability. The BYU offense was not
broken until we started playing a running QB and retooling the offense around
that. Think about it. The last time BYU had a dominate offense was with Max
Hall. As soon as he left, BYU started trying to fit in Riley Nelson because of
his "leadership" and running ability. They're doing the same thing
with Hill. Why did BYU give up on the passing game? They are just blinded by
the QB's running ability.
I was at the game. During the last 5 minutes BYU finally went to Hoffman across
the middle - twice in a row - for first downs. Those were the ONLY two throws in
the middle of the field that I saw the entire game for some reason. The throws
along the side line are low percentage throws and even those were overthrown. It
is almost as if Anae doesn't trust Hill and so he designs these side line
patterns where the ball is least likely to be intercepted. Either you make the
catch or the ball sails out of bounds. All the runs were perplexing as well. Two
yards and a cloud of dust doesn't cut it when you are 13 points behind late
in the game. I can only think Anae just doesn't trust Hill to make
decisions across the middle. No throws to the tight ends either??? I could of
sworn for a moment there I was watching AirForce. All I know is BYU had better
not waste Hoffmans last year because Cody will be playing on Sundays next season
in the NFL.
Taysom Hill is a very talented quarterback, but there is an emotional side to
developing a quarterback in a game.Some games are more intense than
others and even the best quarterbacks get the gitters. I feel than Hill was
nervous and it was affecting his play and the need to relax. Where were the
coaches?In order to get a quarterback to relax, you take him out for
a few plays and put in another quarterback. I did this as a coach and it has a
relaxing affect on a player because the quarterback thinks that all the
responsibility is on his shoulders. It is not, but in the players mind, it
is.Some coaches have the mistaken impression this may cause the
quarterback to lose confidence. On the contrary, the quarterback gains
confidence because he now knows that there are quarterbacks there to help
off-load the pressure. In fact, a quarterback sees his position from a
different perspective. He is more anxious to get back in the action, and is more
confident and relaxed.
Isn't it a little early to be down on Hill? When has he had the
opportunity to pass in game situations this year? Virginia? Sloppy weather.
Texas? Didn't want to get away from the run, because it was working.
Looking back, Coach should have called more passes vs Texas. They would have
gotten more value in passing practice than in setting a school record for
runs.VS Utah was Hill's first chance to pass. It was sloppy,
but he still set a personal best. So you'd prefer to switch to Olsen who
has never thrown a college game pass? Too early for a QB switch. Hill just
needs more experience.
BYU needs Tanner Mangum; he's the real deal. IMO
Agreed, none of the teams in Utah are great this year, but Utah deserved this
win. They played better ball and didn't make mistakes when it mattered.
Best wishes to all Utah teams this year.BYU has to develop some
passing efficiency if they're going to have a winning season. As for the
Utes, they have improved over last season. Competitive in the PAC-12? Not yet,
but give them a few years.
What passing game?
I for one am grateful that Bronco kept Hill in for the entire Utah bYu game.No brainer; spy on Hill, shut his running game off and his passing would
benefit Utah.Love Bronco's decisions, the gift that keeps on
giving, year after year. 2013 will always be remembered 20-13
Utes have the Y's number, yet nobody else's.
BYU fans right now "know" a good deal more than the coaches. Why? Common
sense, and simple observation.When I saw Coach Mendenhall at game
time stoically pacing the sidelines by himself I thought "Whoa, here it
comes!" We're not ready, and we're also going to see a
slow-but-steady strategy on offense, once again, and nothing new. Didn't we have enough motivation? We are playing at our house! - in front
of 57,000 fans and an ESPN2 nationwide audience. Utah has embarrassed us three
years straight. Their coaches know our tendencies and appear almost arrogant and
dismissive in the way they approach us. They appear to disrespect the rivalry
now that they are in the Pac10. On the one hand they seem to project that they
don't consider us "in their league" as a major competitor, yet on
the other don't want a pesky team any more on their non-conference schedule
who can still beat them. It was public outcry in Utah that got the games going
again three years from now.So where was the fire? Many of the fans
have got it! Utah said, "We wanted it more." Incredible.
"BYU football: BYU's passing game searching for answers"We already knew that! It was revealed after the Texas game that BYU has a
really bad passing game. Utah watched game film and their whole game plan was to
stop the run, and put one linebacker to spy on Taysom Hill. What do you know? It
worked!Here's an answer to help solve BYU's passing woes.
Get a new quarterback!
When Byu can't recruit a decent passing QB for years now? its a sad day and
won't get any better until Bronco is fired, look no further than Andrew
Luck vs Kapernick yesterday, and see how important it is to be able to pass as a
QB and not just to run read option every single play.
The one thing that really stood out to me is what happened in the fourth quarter
when Anae called short pass routes and let his play makers (Hoffman and Falslev)
do their thing after the catch. It's said so often by coaches that is has
become a cliche, "We have to get the ball to our play makers in space."
I saw very few play calls where this was the case. When the play makers did get
the ball it was rarely in space. Seems like a basic philosophy, but what do I
The answer is:Wait for the Mangum kid to finish his mission..
I would like to thank our friends at the University of Utah for letting us play
them in football. I would also like to thank them for letting us score a
touchdown. You are our friends and we like you.
So glad Jamaal is ok and out of the hospital, very scary. As for BYU, they were
out-played and out-coached the whole game. O-line was pushed around the whole
game and unfortunately our solid defense gave up some big plays. Utah was
stacking the box the whole game, but it was easy to see that Hoffman had
one-on-one coverage on many of these plays. Why they didn't take advantage
of this is beyond me, I guess they just have no confidence in Hill and his
ability to go through his progressions. Future opponents just saw how to beat
BYU....make Hill throw. Simple as that. Maybe Hill will develop into a decent
passer, but as of right now, that offense is so one-dimensional it's scary.
Do you stick with Hill and try to develop his passing? I don't know,
it's the million dollar question. As I said on another post, no
excuses from me, congrats to the Utes, they own us plain and simple. I wish
them luck in the Pac 12, as for BYU, sooooo much work to do if we want to be
bowl eligible. Yuck!
Coach Ben Cahoon solved the problem of dropped balls! Are you kidding??? What
universe do you live in?How does a major university end up with only
one capable receiver (Hoffman) and a starting QB who couldn't toss a snap
back to the center? Did anyone notice that no deep pass landed in the same zip
code as the intended receiver? Hill always throws behind a moving receiver, so
his only completions are when the receiver is stopped or coming back for the
ball. It's been three years now since a BYU QB has completed passes to
receivers on the move!! Of course, this bunch of receivers couldn't catch
a soap bubble with a peach basket. Apo doesn't even seem to know when to
turn his head to look for the ball!I agree that it would be nice to
see Ammon Olsen in a game to see what he can do. We need a passer, not an
additional runner. Maybe recent history is telling us that QBs who
transfer from other programs aren't such a good deal....
re: jarka-rus moments ago.Agreed. B Mendenhall is like Dave
Wannstedt is a really good DC & mediocre HC.
No need to write letters to your legislators. The U athletic department is not
subsidized by your tax dollars. In fact, a recent economic research study
showed that Utah's membership in the PAC 12 actually brings in more revenue
to Utah State coffers.
Two weeks ago I thought “Utah is going to shut down our run game, it
won’t be like Texas. I’m not proud. We should find another way. They
will stack the block and dare us to pass.”My thinking
continued: “Utah’s clear weakness is pass defense, especially
vertical. Since we have a developing and inconsistent passing quarterback, to
win this game we are going to have to gamble. I would pass 95% of the time in
the game. I wouldn’t even care if Taysom had a few interceptions. Since
it’s unlikely we beat them with our strength against their strength, we
will beat them with our ‘so-so’ against their weakness, by stepping
up our passing attack on a major scale.” And we clearly needed
something out-of-the-box, something unconventional in our approach, to shake us
out of the head case Utah has us in. But no, BYU’s coaches
right now are too proud, in my view. Same-old. Remember when we
played Tulsa a few years ago and they surprised us with a hurry up passing
attack? We had beaten them consistently. It was unusual, and they won.
I think Taysom might get some useful tips from Steve Young. The receivers? Call
up Jerry Rice!!!
Fisrt, Utah is better than BYU this year. I don't care if they are PAC
cellar dwellers, we would be too if we were in the PAC.Second, the
officiating wasn't bad. If you think it was, you need to watch the game on
TV. Most were in BYU's favor. Our only TD wasn't even valid, as the
knee was clearly down before the ball crossed the plane. No idea how
Bronco's challenge stood, as the ball wasn't tipped at the line of
scrimage, so was it tipped right before Beck committed the pass interference,
and if so, does that even matter? The last play was not a PI as Mathews pulled
the defender to the ground, right before the ball bounced off him on the ground.
Not the zebras fault.Lastly, we missed several great opportunities
from stupid mistakes. Field goal, Hine TD run, Falslev run that could've
been TD if blockers in fron of him would've turned around = 3+7+7 more
points! Still wouldn't have been the better team.
Classic case of 'lacking self awareness':"I think Utah
had a pretty good scheme on us, but there at the end, we started to find gaps.
It is just unfortunate that we didn’t do it soon enough. So that is
something that we need to continue to get better at.”Are you
kidding? Utah came out with 1 safety over the top and 8 in the box from play 1.
It was obvious from the stands that hot route slants would have worked from the
get go. And they did ... in the 4th qtr. I'm an amateur at best but Anae
has got to recognize coverages and adjust in-game long before it gets out of
hand. The best do, he doesn't and taysom CAN make THAT throw - no touch
Hill is an excellent running option qb... but, has no touch on his passes, and
is inaccurate largely because everything is thrown on the run or while hopping
around (no solid foundation). imho, he would be an excellent running back/
secondary throwing threat if the coaching staff would drop their tunnel visioned
Let's face it Bronco's a good guy but a mediocre head coach at best
and that will never change.
Where is Ross Apo? Dropped passes and miscommunication. Disappointed he still
struggles to get open, catch the ball, etc. A good passing game means the
receivers need to get open and Apo is seldom open. I noted that Apo did not
play much in the 2nd half. Is it an attitude problem or does he not have what
it takes to be a good receiver? Sad
Mendenhall and Anae should both be burning on the hot seat. For BYU, (FREAKING
BYU!!) To be rated LAST in the country in the passing game is a travesty of
epic proportions. The whole staff should resign on principle. 123 out of 123.
How they sleep at night right now while cashing their paychecks boggles the
mind. And yet we get the same old "shrug the shoulders,
we-got-outplayed-blahblahblah time and time again after losses due to
incompetent game preparation and poor decision making on the coaches part.
Tough to be Coug fan right now, and this is after 30+ years of being there, year
in year out.
A great principle is that our strength can become our weakness. This is true of
great leaders. Bronco in my view is one of the very best defensive
coaches in the nation, bar none. It seems he unfortunately lets his
defense-first approach spill over into the way he views his own offense and into
key decisions for the offense that he has chosen to reserve for himself -
whether to go for it or not on 4th and 1, saying to the offensive coordinator
"I want a balance of running and passing," etc. Could it be
that that unlike LaVell Edwards, he's rigid in what he demands of the
offense and his offensive coordinators, putting shackles on them? When LaVell brought Doug Scovil in, he let him fly. He didn't say,
"Yeah, but on 4th and 1 on our 40 with the game winding down and we're
losing I'm going to say we're going to punt," or "let's
get the running game established first on them," and etc.It's speculation of course and a bit unfair, but it's time we said
to the offense "let her rip" come what may. And especially against Utah.
Anyone who is shocked by the results of this season so far doesn't pay
attention. Quit looking at the Vegas odds makers and computer rankings to base
your fantasies of what will happen. Hill has had accuracy problems all spring
and fall camp. The receivers have had dropped balls the same time. Do you really
think it can be fixed once the season begins. Get use to this it will go on for
the rest of the year.What I learned from Saturday's game is
what I already knew. We have three teams in the state who are barely above
average. Utah is best, then USU, then BYU.I SAID AT THE BEGINNING
BYU would struggle to be bowl eligible and would be 5 and 7. They have shown me
nothing that changes that prediction. Utah is actually better than I thought and
should become bowl eligible barely.I still hear rumblings from those
close to BYU that not all the positions are being played by the best players. I
believe that but Bronco ha his reasons of who plays, and will never change.
This game really saddened me. I was hoping to see a better offensive
performance and see more of a balanced attack with some inventive plays to keep
the Utes off-balance. I saw a QB that is good on running and very poor in
passing. How many times was the ball way over the heads of the intended
receiver? The play calling was bland. How many times did I see 1st downs with
a hand off up the middle? Why did we always go for the long pass when a
controlled passing game of 5 to 10 yards would have worked to move the ball down
the field? After this game I felt the way I felt last year when there were many
games we lost that were VERY winnable. We could have won that game but I think
we need to re-look at every position on offense and be more creative in the play
calling. Oh, and stop lining up in a down position on the sideline to start
each offensive series.
Utah is in BYU players and coaches heads, evident the moment BYU began play.
Last year we're the better team, but coughed and sputtered and barely lost.
We continue incremental-ism, our nice, safe ways of playing, Coach
Whittingham:Throws over the top last year to try to discourage us and put
the game away.Turns a game with another rival with an onside kick.Tells his players two years ago "It doesn't have to be close" and
they drub us in Provo while we say "it will go down to the wire" and
"whoever makes one more play will win" and other self-fulfilling
prophecies. Does BYU realize if they simply put 30-35 points on the board they
would have won Saturday? Then why choose throw-away running plays and kicking
field goals?And we knew what to expect from Pac10 referrees. Micheel
Jordan said "we have to play above the referees." That meant if the refs
give the other team 10 points we score 20 to offset what we can't control.
In the Texas game, we came out with a completely different energy level
and confidence that a win was imminent.BYU has a Utah head case.
I always wondered why Ben Cahoon was fired. I never heard of any issues with him
and our recievers improved dramatically with him as the recievers coach. Does
anyone know exactly why he was let go? Or was it just an entire Offensive coach
@wer,Hill can't be a running back, due to the fact he
doesn't have any lateral movement. He can't cut like a traditional
RB. He's fast North and South, but he can only run when the O-line opens
holes for him. As for his QB status, he doesn't have the "touch."
It seems he tries to put every throw on a line, and throw so hard his hand
can't grip the ball long enough to make the throw accurate. That's
tough to coach out of someone who has been doing that their entire career.
Jason Beck has his work cut out for him, but the constant swapping of QB's
is not what the Cougs need right now. Ammon has his issues as well, his
footwork isn't the greatest and he tends to let the ball sail high too.
Anae and Beck need to get Hill comfortable from throwing on the run, since
that's where the majority of his mistakes have come from. He's not a
pocket passer, so that's one solution to the woes at the QB position for
now. Just my .02.
Passing game answers? Ya think? It's hard to win when Taysom
Hill throws 48 times. I know BYU runs close to a hundred plays per game, so the
ratio is close to even (pass to run ratio), but 48 times and plays to embrace
Hill's arm? Slow down and huddle up every once in a while. BYU doesn't
have the horses to run a turbo offense like Chip Kelly at Oregon did. Hill does make plays with his feet when he runs downhill. It's there
where Hill becomes a fast and hard runner. But Utah wasn't blinded by that.
Whittingham recognized that Hill doesn't move as well laterally in the
pocket so he attacked where Texas did not. Hill looks tough and
competitive. Sound familiar BYU fans? Think the last 2 plus years. Hill has not
even come close to showing that he can be a passer. Now I can see him being able
to sling it. But far from every kind of cannon arm guy that just throws for
velocity sake, targeting every route the same, can become a gunslinger. Hill is
a more athletic version of Riley Nelson. BYU recruiting QB shift in my eyes.
I think it was a really big coaching failure to not have some kind of passing
game plan. You simply can't stick with a QB who is averaging a 1/3
completion rate going against a stacked front. At least give a backup QB a
series in the game to mix up the defense with a more pass-oriented look,
catching them in a run-D look. Or even throw in a WR pass off a reverse. Huge,
huge strategy miss from the BYU coaches. 4th and 1 call was also really bad.
Can't wear out the other team if you are punting on 4th and 1.Utah fans have reason to celebrate - they won, we lost. Perhaps as Cougar
fans hear the gloating, religious taunts, and see the baptism video, they will
realize their tax dollars are helping subsidize the UU athletic department.
There is no good reason for any BCS athletic department to be subsidized when
they are making so much through their TV contracts. So as they Utes shove the
win in your face, don't get angry - write your state legislators, and end
subsidies to BCS teams.
@werAre you a BYU fan? If so, you are the first I've seen to agree
with me that hill is a RB. Everyone loves talking about him originally signing
as a QB with Stanford. If he was playing for the Cardinal right now, he would
either be a running back or a linebacker
Having dropped ball problems again. Last time this was a problem Ben Cahoon was
hired and he fixed it. Sounds like it was a big mistake to fire him. Wonder if
he is still available?
I believe Heaps has better passing stats at Kansas and it wouldn't surprise
me if Rily Nelson didn't have better stats last year.It's
time to put Hill at running back and give Ammon the ball.