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Published: Thursday, Sept. 19 2013 10:45 p.m. MDT

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WA_Alum&Dad
Marysville, WA

Not blaming either school for how they handled this. But "die-hard Ute fans" never seem to change, whether ratting on BYU players at just the right time, or in hateful and tasteless comments. Keep keeping it classy, Utes!

Mormon Ute
Kaysville, UT

Wow! I'm surprised by how many BYU fans are more upset that Hadley got caught than by the fact that he violated the honor code and put BYU in a bad light. They seem to be saying it's okay to sin, just don't get caught.

3GrandKeys
Walnut Creek, CA

What's the penalty for a violation of the Vegas Code?

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

skywalker
Palo Alto, CA
azute1

"I've not seen anything 100% conclusive surface which in fact actually identifies this alleged "snitch who happens to be a U Fan"?..."

Transcript of the email sent to the U:

"From: Darren Lucy
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 2:16 PM
To: Kate Charipar
Subject: BYU LB partying in Vegas with Booster

I am a die hard Utah Utes fan and have pictures of BYU Linebacker Spencer Hadley..."

Absent any hard evidence to prove otherwise, the snitch was a self-proclaimed "die hard Utah Utes fan".

Live with it!

How in the world could somebody such as yourself, while attempting to pass off as an irrefutable copy/paste of what you alone allege anonymously on an internet blog to in fact be an official transcript, even remotely expect me or anybody else on here to conclude anything conclusive regarding it, whatsoever?

I'm being 100% dead-serious w/you, not talking trash. Do you not realize any one of us could've just simply made this up from the top of our head as we were typing, as well?

Please alert me when something official surfaces, should I not see it, first. Thanks.

AZ i see it
GILBERT, AZ

BlueCoug

Easy! I certainly don't hate Harvey & Keilani. I never said they weren't heroic and/or outstanding young people.
The facts (not half-truths)remain:
- they were not married
- they were having sex (or at least did once)
- they were actively participating in their sports at BYU while that was happening
I wish them the best of luck with their young family.
The only speculation here is you trying to "understand what I could possible imagine"?

VegasUte
Las Vegas, NV

For all those who care, the picture was a posed picture with a group of people holding up letters spelling out "SPENCE". There was no "spying" or anything clandestine.

wwookie
Payson, UT

I love all you byu fans that think partying with a booster and breaking ncaa rules is justified because of how it was brought to light.
Wait until you find out Bronco knew about this for quite some time but swept it under the rug.

You sound just like the folks at Ohio State, Penn State, Florida and all the other schools when violations started to be reported on. You're in good company.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Evidently what happens in Vegas DOESN'T stay in Vegas anymore.

So much for that cliché.

sammyg
Springville, UT

Anyone have some photos of Ute players partying a little too hard? LOL

Much ado about nothing except for the timing of this event and its viral nature. Hadley got what he deserved. There's nothing more to discuss except the way the Utes got the pictures.

Is Darren Lucy Chris B????? LOL

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@BleedCougarBlue

What I DO have a problem with (a huge problem!) is the UofU supporter who sent the pix to Utah.

That is beyond dirty. Coincidence on the timing? Yeah, right....

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I agree the Ute that partied with Hadley shouldn't have snitched.

But can someone please tell me how the Honor Code violations on BYU campus get reported?

And no the policing unit isn't the Crimson Club.

Go UTES!!

VegasUte
Las Vegas, NV

Hey It's Me:

He's a return missionary.

Deanvrtc
Vancouver, WA

This Ute fan, who obviously thought to hurt BYU, just gave the cougars a huge emotional boost heading into the rivalry game. Who ever you are...thanks for the help...go cougars...!

Mister J
Salt Lake City, UT

Okay Cougar nation...

Playing the victim/persection card is weak. Even weaker & bordering on pathtic is caliming "Max was right". If anything, it NEGATES that theory. It speaks volumes that byu fans are using this to rally the base.

There is some speculation that the tattletell was not a Utah fan. It was posted on a byu comment board but taken down then came the suspension. Interesting; don't you think?

What is incredulous is its just a 5 game suspension. Its been said that a picture is worth 1000 words... Well the one on the internet is worth 1479 IMO

That said, I don't blame Hadley for acting like a guy in his early 20's. But, he should have been way more catious considering his belief system and who he represents.

The ironic thing is maybe byu is a legacy program.. You know stuff like this happens in Tallahassee, Austin, Norman, Coral Gables, Ann Arbor, LA, etc...

JCC75
SEATTLE, WA

Max Hall was sooooooooooo right! Just this much more motivation for BYU to beat Utah!

Stenar
Salt Lake City, UT

This isn't just a matter of the honor code. Hadley also violated NCAA rules.

rlsintx
Plano, TX

I am certain the U did the right thing.

Pendergast
Salt Lake City, UT

The sad thing, as I see it, people using this 'incident' to justify their own petty cognitive biases.

goutahutes
Cedar Hills, UT

It is funny that all the outrage is about the Ute fan that reported the incident. But the focus of the blame should be on the player for putting himself in that situation. If a booster does prove to be involved, he and the booster put the program in a bed spot, not the reporting Ute Fan. It is funny how fans would rather turn a blind eye and shift the blame else where.

SoonerUte
Salt Lake City, UT

"I am a die hard Utah Utes fan and have pictures of BYU Linebacker Spencer Hadley..."
I think this is really a BYU student writing this letter.

Look at how doing the right thing -- bringing attention to a violation -- is treated down south. The whistle blower is labeled a "snitch" and talked about with disdain. Any BYU student would be hesitant to speak up, for fear of being outcast.

No college student makes a trip to a Las Vegas party without his friends, family, or teammates knowing about it. The whistleblower isn't some "Ute spy" -- its someone who was there; someone on the inside. I don't blame them at all for signing the letter "die hard Utah Utes fan". It is the perfect diversion.

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

goutahutes--

"It is funny that all the outrage is about the Ute fan that reported the incident. But the focus of the blame should be on the player for putting himself in that situation. If a booster does prove to be involved, he and the booster put the program in a bed spot, not the reporting Ute Fan. It is funny how fans would rather turn a blind eye and shift the blame else where."

Here's another obvious point conveniently absent from the usual group of finger-pointers and that's the level of selfishness it requires to both knowlingly decide to do break what's essentially valued beyond anything else at byu in any capacity/ deliberately following through w/said decision....I don't assume he was even selfless enough to realize the impact his choice would potentialy create, were it to later surface, which to most would basically be inevitable, and in fact actually it one, single thought if he in fact was aware of it, but this act represented the consummate anti-team, individualistic all about #1 example of selfishness any single player could commit, but even more reprehensible considering his tenure/status--

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