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Published: Thursday, Sept. 19 2013 10:45 p.m. MDT

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CougarColby
Fort Benning, GA

As I have read every single comment so far, there are VERY few BYU fans that say anything negative about the U for their role in this. They obviously did the right thing by forwarding compromising evidence to BYU. Sure this guy sitting on pics right up to the game is obviously not a coincidence, but does it really matter? I don't agree that the public is in charge of policing the Honor Code, those who live by the Honor Code should be policing itself. BYU doesn't hire employees to go out to bars and clubs around Utah trying to find Honor Code violators. It is the HONOR Code.

Thank goodness, however, for an institution like BYU that continues to deal with suspensions in a timely manner and refuses to let rivalry games or national standings (BYU Basketball) stand in the way of doing the right thing. This is in stark contrast to Penn State, Miami (the real U), Ohio State, USC, and the UofU. Hadley made a mistake and regardless of when it came out, he most likely would have been suspended for this game anyway. The UofU did the right thing and so did BYU.

BYU sports on TV in Missouri
Lebanon, MO

I don't have any issues with someone passing along information about a player in violation of the Honor code. It doesn't matter than most schools would call Hadley's "violation" standard protocal on a recruiting trip. We know the rules, the players know the rules. And Coach Mendenhall doesn't mess around when it comes to enforcing the honor code. At BYU ethics are supposed to be more important than sports. I agree with the suspension.

It does appear, however, that the timing of the notificaiton to the University was scripted in an attempt to create an advantage for the University of Utah.... That is just funny.... Shows that Utah fans are desperate.....They have accepted that the respective football programs are headed in opposite directions and the Utah players are not good enough to win the games without
fan involvement. Wonder what they will try and dredge up when they play USC. Kiffen has beat them to the punch when it comes to bad behavior.

JohnInSLC
Cottonwood Heights, UT

"Don't blame this on the DesNews."

GoodOne:

Wait, wasn't the DNews the one that made this public? The U didn't--it remained quiet until the paper asked and chose to run the story. And again, where's the photo? The DNews had no hesitation publishing the ice-bath video.

Like it or not, the DNews has left out crical information to shape opinion.

BYU sports on TV in Missouri
Lebanon, MO

University of Utah did the right thing by forwarding the information on to BYU. Right thing to do. I am sure that the UofU wanted no involvement in the first place.

arand
Huntsville, u

I respect BYU for their honor code, and no, I am not LDS. There are much more important things in life than ball games. That said, I am a big college football fan. I kind of like both teams but it is just sad that now, this game will not be played on even grounds.

Scores
Idaho Falls, ID

If the Cougars depth chart is what I think it is, losing Hadley for this game will be no problem. Did you hear...Chris Badger gets to play tomorrow. There's already enough motivation for the Y tomorrow without hashing about this story. It has absolutely no relevance whatsoever on the outcome of this game.

Invictus323
OGDEN, UT

Hadley is suspended for five games. How does the timing of this effect his eligibility for Saturday's game? If it was reported before the season he would still be suspended.

Sports Are Great
Salt Lake City, UT

What is interesting is the university of Utah knew about SEVERAL failed drug tests before suspending Blechen. byu suspends a kid immediately for breaking a rule, not breaking the law.

Ute players break the law and the entire university looks the other way until he's done it time after time?

Just curious, how many times is it acceptable to do drugs and fail drug tests before action should be taken on the hill? I'd sincerely like to know.

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

I'm not making an excuse for Hadley, he got what he deserved.

By for Utah fans to now turn to spying on rivals, holding onto the evidence until rivalry week is low - very low.

ekute
Layton, UT

This was published in another paper yesterday and it was on the radio all afternoon.

Now that we know what Hadley did and that not until he was caught did he admit to it, what say you byu "fans" that were so quick to judge Blechen in the "baptism" video?

Stringer Bell
Henderson, NV

Something smells with this whole thing. Everyone is just assuming Mr. "Lucy" is a Utes fan because of the claim in the email. First, why would someone put that statement in the message with the photo in the first place? It appears very out of place to make that declaration in reporting this. Secondly, I don't know of any Utes fan, diehard or not, that calls themselves a "Utah Utes" fan. It's either one or the other. The only time I hear it is when a non-Utes fan references the school. I believe in time it may be revealed that Mr. Lucy may indeed not be a Ute fan or BYU fan but may have had other reasons to report this. Really folks, who out there (especially someone from another school) would be able to recognize a BYU football player among a crowd in Las Vegas?

brownderby
Cottonwood Heights, UT

It is interesting that little Lucy chose to forward the video, but no one seems to have noted the origin of the video. "...a controversial, now-deleted YouTube video made by Ute players drew widespread attention" What were the U players doing at the bar? Yes, we know that the U doesn't have an honor code. But the whole thing stinks.

Sports Are Great
Salt Lake City, UT

It would be nice if Utah has half the spine byu did. How many times can players do drugs and fail drug tests before suspension on the hill?

Spineless. Valueless.

sky2k1
Provo, UT

I have no problem with the way the U handled this. I have no problem with the way the Y handled this. I have a problem (and by that I don't mean judgmental/I think he is a bad person, but he broke the rules and should face the punishment) with hadley. I don't have a problem with the U fan that reported the incident. I just have a problem with the timing and motivation. Had this come out when it happened, I would have been fine with it coming from a U fan.

My only issues are rule breaking, motivation and timing. Everything else is fine. And before people keep calling cougar fans hypocrites over timing, I haven't seen or heard anything of the mock baptism video before today.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

The university of utah compliance office did the correct thing by immediately forwarding this to the BYU compliance office, they did nothing wrong. Preston Hadley did something wrong and is now paying the price for his decision, I have no problem with that.

I have nothing but disdain for this utah "fan" that took the pictures and gleefully used them to "stick it" to BYU's football team. But people are lame, they prove it all of the time.

In the words of Morrisey "there is always someone, somewhere, with a big nose who knows, that will trip you up and laugh when you fall" obviously this guy lucy is one of those types. It is good to remember that there are people like lucy in this world and just not give them an opportunity to "trip you up" by remaining true to your word and your morals in the first place.

GameTheory
Salt Lake City, UT

So the BYU fans are calling Utah fans classless and making a point to agree with Max Hall;

“ I don't like Utah. In fact, I hate them. I hate everything about them. I hate their program, their fans. I hate everything....I think the whole university and their fans and the organization is classless”.

I just want to make sure I’m getting this right, you BYU fans are saying you hate U fans and their program because one of the U fans reported a potential NCAA infraction as well as a BYU honor code violation? Let me remind you that there are constant stories on the news and on the streets, of BYU students reporting others for honor code violations, and thats not including the regular debacles, such as the girl who was reprimanded for wearing skinny jeans while she was in the library.

BYU fans are willing to point the finger at the U fans and say they are classes and that they hate them, when that one U fan is only doing what BYU students do every day (report violations), and for a more noble cause (NCAA infraction).

wazzup
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Hadley went clubbing weeks ago. Lets hope BYU does their own 'clubbing' this Saturday! RUTS baby!

GameTheory
Salt Lake City, UT

So the BYU fans are calling Utah fans classless and making a point to agree with Max Hall;

“ I don't like Utah. In fact, I hate them. I hate everything about them. I hate their program, their fans. I hate everything....I think the whole university and their fans and the organization is classless”.

I just want to make sure I’m Getting this right, you BYU fans are saying you hate U fans and their program because one of the U fans reported a potential NCAA infraction as well as a BYU honor code violation. Let me remind you that there are constant stories on the news and on the streets, of BYU students reporting others for honor code violations, and thats not including the regular debacles, such as the girl who was reprimanded for wearing skinny jeans while she was in the library.

BYU fans are willing to point the finger at the U fans and say they are classes and that they hate them, when that one U fan is only doing what BYU students do every day (report violations), and for a more noble cause (NCAA infraction).

Uteanymous
Salt Lake City, Utah

Duckhunter

"I have nothing but disdain for this utah "fan" that took the pictures and gleefully used them to "stick it" to BYU's football team. But people are lame, they prove it all of the time."

Well said. BYU and Utah did the right thing in handling this situation. Hadley messed up and deserved to be held accountable.

A lesson we all can learn from this:

Anybody who tries/proclaims to live by a high standard is subject to prying eyes looking for every slip up. In today's digital world, just remember, there are weasels everywhere just waiting to make your next mistake a public disgrace.

sid 6.7
Holladay, UT

You all know I am a Ute fan but this situation simply disgusts me! The U had to forward the info to the Y, that's not what I am mad about. I am mad about the pathetic person who aquired and sent the photos in the first place. As a Utah fan why would this person give one hoot about what goes on internally with the BYU team?

Nice job Life Long Ute Fan, you just put the school you love so much in a no win situation! If Utah holds on to the info they are ethically wrong for doing so. If they forward it to BYU then they are trying to skew the game by having one of their best players suspended.

I AM a Utah fan and when my Utes play the Cougars I want both teams at FULL STRENGTH! Kick the ball and for the following 60 minutes let the chips fall where they may!

Sorry Ute Nation but if we win tomorrow the victory won't be nearly as sweet. And guess what? We as Utes will get to sit on that fact for the next two years.

My prayers go out to both teams.

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