@ Lifelong Ute - Salt Lake City, UT - "The reason this one gets so much talk
is that it's one of a relatively few byu wins in the former
rivalry....""Relatively few" wins?Riiiiight......Better go take a walk back through history, amigo.
Enjoying this message board - lots of good thoughts both ways.The
one thing that sticks out in my mind is Max Hall (the most hated Coug) had 2 of
the best wins vs. the Utes and he earned a "10" in my books with the way
he did it. Embarrassed the Utes defense (and truth be told, Coach Whit in the
process)in the first win when he was a soph, then tore the Utes hearts out with
perfect execution in OT his senior year. Here's hoping for another classic
game Sat. night with KVN and the Cougs getting a measure of payback to end the
Cincinnatus, no one is disputing the win/loss record. We are disputing
"Utah is better than BYU" when the results look like coin flips. In 2004
and 2008, no one questions that Utah was better. In 2011, I have to concede it
too. Other than that, they have been equal teams, including "Harline is
still open", "4th and 18", and "George is still running".I'll say the same for BYU and USU. BYU has been lucky and come out
on top in the past two years.
That play makes me emotional.
If Jim McMahon to Clay Brown in the 1980 Holiday Bowl isn't your vote, you
were obviously born after 1980. That play was amazing but what it did for BYU
for years to come is unmeasureable.
@TamaBYURe: "ASU and Oregon about to put 70 on Utah this
season."I always get a kick out of BYU fans having to resort to
wins or beat-downs by teams not named BYU when talking smack.
Most of the 'plays' in the poll weren't designed plays. The best
'play' on that list was the Steve Young halfback pass, executed
It was a great play. I have always been frustrated with Whit for not blitzing
more and pressuring the quarterback on obvious pass plays. Props to byu's
O-line for protecting beck and props to beck for avoiding the rusher. This is
what the byu fans hang their hat on. No doubt you can visit legacy hall and
watch that video over and over. We already know that 8 of 11 and 3 in a row
doesn't matter because they have a bigger stadium. Go Utes.
One more to add...Whittingham/Mendenhall era:5 - 3After
this weekend: 5-4Go COUGS!!!
CincinnatusThe season-ending results are the real story.Bronco has finished with a better record and higher ranking during 5 of the 8
seasons during the Bronco/Kyle era.Utah has won the recent
individual-game battles, but BYU has won the season-long wars.
Sorry skywalker, but your logic doesn't work.Same goes for
BYU's wins, so take of the blue colored sunglasses.Besides, the
win/loss column doesn't ask, "How much did you win by?" Does
it?A win is a win, a loss is a loss.
Cincinnatus,You forgot13 of the last 16 have been
decided by a touchdown or less in the closing minutes or in overtime and the
worm always turns; the Utes can't count on the majority of lucky bounces
going their way forever.Your "trend" is nothing but a
Rockwell,You also forgot-Last 25 yearsUtah
14-11Last 20 yearsUtah 13-7Last 15 yearsUtah
9-6Last 10 yearsUtah 7-3Last 5 yearsUtah
4-1I think I see a trend...
Rivalry HistoryMost Points ScoredBYU 70 Utah 31 (1989)Utah 57 BYU 28 (1988)Largest Margin of VictoryBYU 56 Utah 6
(1980)Utah 49 BYU 0 (1922 - BYU's first year)Longest
Winning Streak (tie 9)BYU 1979 to 1987Utah 1929 to 1937Overall Series RecordUtah 53-31-4Last 50 YearsBYU
Beck-to-Harline is THE BEST single play in the history of the BYU-Utah rivalry
made even more special for my son and I because we were standing in the middle
of the Crimson Club dressed in BYU Blue... the crowd was in a frenzy and the
noise deafening until Max floated that pass in the direction of Harline, then...
dead silence... except for four solitary figures screaming in the heart of the
Crimson Club.Best play in the history of BYU is still Jim
McMahon's hail Mary pass to Clay Brown, which I also witnessed from high
above the field directly behind the end zone where Brown caught the pass
surrounded by three SMU defenders.Time to bring a little of that
magic back to LES this Saturday.Go COUGARS!
@LifelongUte obviously you weren't around when BYU put 70 on the Utes!
Utes only put 54. Is that all? ASU and Oregon about to put 70 on Utah this
season.Rise Up Cougars!
Right up there with the great plays in all of college football.Harline is
still open.May it ever be so.And beat the U !
@LifelongUteNot a very long life time I guess because I remember a lot
more great Cougar wins. My favorite is the 70-31 game. We (fans in the stands)
laughed and laughed when Utah would score because it just meant BYU could have
the ball again and it would be seconds before the Y could graciously give the
ball back again after scoring at will. The Y punter took a nap.Most of
the scores in the last twenty years are just close games that could have gone
either way so it's a fun rivalry. Thinking your team is special in a one
point win when the other team missed a field goal by doinking it off the upright
(has happened to both teams) is just silly. Who ever wins is just lucky,
nothing more. Utah has just been luckier recently. But luck changes so just
enjoy the ride for the time being.
Lifelong Ute,I am a Coug Fan, but understand how you feel. That is
how I felt during the 70's, 80's, and early to mid 90's about the
Coug's dominance over the Y. I remember best the close games, including
the miserable "34-31" games. Hope both teams play to the best of their
abilities and that no one gets injured. I hope the Y wins and understand that
you feel differently. Let's enjoy the game.
Hairline is still open and ute fans will continue to try to change the subject
to keep from wondering why he was soooooooooo wide open. I'm kind of
surprised that a fan didn't jump out of the stands and try for a pick-six!
This play gives me the chills every time! This game was awesome and I remember
the elation of watching it happen! Honestly I would prefer watching the Cougars
beat them by more than a couple scores this year, but history says that it will
be another close game. We'll need all the good karma we can get after
The reason this one gets so much talk is that it's one of a relatively few
byu wins in the former rivalry. Utah has several more to choose from. I still
like 54-10, although our beatdown leading up to our second bcs game was also
good. Six straight years with zero byu wins. Being better sure is better