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Published: Monday, Sept. 16 2013 10:02 p.m. MDT

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bw00ds
Tucson, AZ

With great interest, I read the story yesterday about Steve Young and his wife and seeing their efforts. I agree with Mr. Redford about granting equal rights for all--as long as that does not mean changing the God given definition of the sanctity of marriage. I think Mr. Redford's remarks may have inferred that, not sure, though.

christoph
Brigham City, UT

To Bob Redford, they already have rights, so let us move on to talking about art, poetry, sunsets and science and beauty. Bob, how do you see history? All discrimination? That is a negative way to judge our forefathers. And where do we stop? Is polygamy next? If we outlaw polygamy, is that discrimination? Why only have 2 people in marriage? If you can't say no to gay marriage, you will never be able to say no to anything.

franc
Kirkland, WA

Redford believes there should be no prejudice and no discrimination ... except for those silly Mormons. Then it's acceptable, I guess.

jrp7sen
Logan, UT

bw00ds. That was a rather poorly thought out post. It gave me all sorts of heartache. You might as well have said: I agree with equal rights for all, UNLESS it means making other people equal. Really? You just said that. Literally.

Besides, no religion owns the word "marriage". In fact, marriage between a man and a woman in the Muslim faith, in the Buddhist faith, or as atheists contradicts the precious "sanctity" of marriage anyway according to how Christians would depict it.

Also, I find that your argument holds no water because "traditional marriage" as stated in the Bible also includes a woman having to marry her rapist. A man marrying hundreds of concubines. Polygamy. (We don't need to bring up the sanctity in that, right? Us Mormons did that once, after all. /sarcasm)

There is a problem with religion when it tries to interfere on the rights of other people as it has done since the rise of the Catholic church.

Divorce is the problem to marriage. Marriage is not its own problem.

I support gay marriage. /signed an active LDS saint.

JD Tractor
Iowa City, IA

"Like you, I believe there's no place in our world for discrimination. None." Robert Redford

Well I hope he actually believes that. So his next stand is on Broadway condemning the musical, "The Book of Mormon". Then he moves to California to the couples bakery that was attacked and finally closed because the LGTB community doesn't believe in personal choice or an individual beliefs or conscience.

And finally I'm sure he will say to the LTGB crowd, "If people believe that marriage is between one man and one woman, why would we discriminate against their choice of lifestyle? After all they have as much right to their beliefs as you do."

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

"the God given definition"

Those words have been used over and over throughout history to justify doing bad things to people.

If you're going to try to shape real-world laws using the "god given" rules of religious texts, then you're doomed to an endless struggle trying to defend irrationality, cruelty, and hypocrisy.

davidmpark
Salt Lake City, UT

Instead of creating special rights of groups of people, why not just scale it all back to law enforcement punishes crimes of assault, murder, and theft - regardless of their sexuality and beliefs. Equality in the law.

And if this is about marriage rights, then the state should get out of the business altogether - send it back to the religions to perform and enforce their views on marriage. Let it become a theocratic debate rather than political.

Strider303
Salt Lake City, UT

Bob Redford, an entertainer. Important because he entertains people with his festival and ski resort which boosts the economy.

He entertains people when he speaks at political fund-raising dinners, and by his stylish dress.

Thank you for entertaining people and supporting the Utah economy.

bw00ds
Tucson, AZ

@jrp7sen aka "active LDS saint"

"Poorly thought out?" Since you are an "active LDS saint," I assume you have read the Proclamation on the Family? That is not "poorly thought out."

Quoting no-longer valid Old Testiment Jewish law does not strengthen your argument. And divorce rates for gay marriages? Please do some research. They are sky high. The term "marriage" is not owned by religion--it is owned by God. By saying that religion gets in the way of the rights of others, you show a complete lack of understanding about our church and the Plan of Salvation. I hope that one day you will.

snowman
Provo, UT

People!!!!! Gays have all the rights that straight people have except for marriage and face the facts that isn't ever going to happen in Utah

snowman
Provo, UT

christoph: Polygamy is against the law and yes is discrimination because freedom of religion is protected under the Constitution.

happy2bhere
clearfield, UT

jrp7sen
Would you support same sex Temple marriages? If so then how about polygamist Temple marriages? Think about it.

JD Tractor
You bring up a good point that is often missed by the equal rights crowd. (or they don't really care as long as they get what they want) and that is that some times when giving one right to one group you take away the rights of others. For those of you who don't agree, try affirmative action or school busing as examples.

downunder
south jordan, UT

Please these are the kind of worthless stories that are killing newspapers!

Elcapitan
Ivins, UT

Follow the Prophet or follow Redford, one can not do both. I promote the Proclamation on the Family. It has sure worked for us. Redford lives on the edges of Zion, not in Zion. He is clueless on the topic.

AlanSutton
Salt Lake City, UT

Entertainers like Redford seek publicity wherever they can get it. He speaks to this crowd now, and gets their praise, but where was he on these issues 5 years ago? One year ago? Why didn't he make his opinions public years ago? If his personal beliefs are as strong as he makes them sound, what has taken him so long to speak up?

Ironman
SANTA CLARA, UT

...and the commandments of God are outdated and obsolete.

Who is the next guest speaker? Ted Turner?

Candide
Salt Lake City, UT

There is no "God given definition of marriage" because there is no God. There are humans that believe that a deity has spoken to them, but there is no proof. You will say, "we must have faith" and I say faith in which god? There are thousands that have been written about since writing was invented. Our country is a secular one and is defined by justice and liberty for all, not justice and liberty for those that believe as we do. Two consenting adults should be able to enter into a marriage contract no matter their genders. Gay marriage will come to all 50 states and the world will not end, hetero marriage will not die, and your children will wonder what all the fuss was about.

Convert
Cedar City, UT

@jrp7sen aka "active LDS saint"...
I, too, am an active LDS member. I, too, support LBGT rights, including marriage.

I, too, believe the Proclamation On The Family, and the principle that in this day God's defination of marriage is limited to A man and A woman.

We live in a land of laws governed by the Constitution and Supreme Court interpretation of it. Thus in some churches women hold their priesthood (eg Episcopalian). It is Constitutionally lawful to use the Name of Deity in vain. In fact it is Constitutional to break 7 of the Ten Commandments.

If the Supreme Court rules that gay marriage is lawful, I support it, because I support the Constitution. And I would defend all those freedoms given under it.

In the case of Gay Rights, I know they are discriminated against in marriage as well as other areas. This is not aligned with our country's freedoms.

That being said, I do believe it is against the Will of God (at this time). I tend to agree with Steve Young's wife that the Church does "evolve" and very well could change the stance if homosexuality were determined to be a genetic variattion.

mpo
South Jordan, UT

I love and respect people who experience same-sex attraction (whether they choose to call themselves gay or not).

And it is because I love them that it saddens me to see the world try to flatter them into limited, temporary relationships. These people are sons and daughters of God and are WORTH MORE than this!

As children of God, we are entitled to His highest blessings if we keep His commandments. Why are we as a society encouraging some people to live beneath their privilege? Surely this is not what God intends for His children.

Badgerbadger
Murray, UT

Ironman
SANTA CLARA, UT
...and the commandments of God are outdated and obsolete.

Who is the next guest speaker? Ted Turner?

No, not Ted.

How 'bout Anthony Weiner!

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