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Published: Sunday, Sept. 15 2013 12:20 a.m. MDT

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Northwest Coug
Pasco, WA

Go ahead and fool yourself, Rockmonster.

Ute fans want BYU more than anything, since Pac-12 glory is way out of reach.

Down under
Salt Lake City, UT

I can't wait to see the spin from the u trolls on this game. I'm sure that it will be the refs fault. I think we have a new tag line for the utes; "We can't smell the roses"

Vancouver, WA

Wow didn't these Beavers lose to Eastern Washington? What a joke by Utah. It's no wonder PAC-12 country regrets adding Utah to the mix. What an embarrassment to the PAC.


Brad, your premise is incorrect. You, like Duckhunter previously, incorrectly assume that the rankings of the bowl games directly reflect conference positioning, like in the NCAA Football video game. The pecking order of the bowl games doesn't mean this, it means that the bowls bowl committees get to make their invites in that order. In 2011, UCLA, the South Division champions, was forced into the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl, which ordinarily would've been (second to last for seven eligible teams), but with Stanford in the Fiesta Bowl, became the PAC's seventh and final bowl destination. Utah, which finished in a three way tie for sixth overall, was invited by the Sun Bowl ahead of ASU and UCLA.

So, no, the BYU game is no less important to becoming bowl eligible and being invited by particular bowls than any other game. The payouts aren't that big of an issue anyway, since the conference shares the revenue of them. So the conference's real goals should be: A. continuing to place two teams in BCS bowls, and B. placing as many conference teams into bowls as possible.

Salt Lake City, UT

Nice try Brad, already stirring the pot.

Sports Are Great
Salt Lake City, UT

There are bigger games all around these days. This year the wins I wanted the most in order are:
1) notre dame
2) Wisconsin
3) Texas
4) Boise
5) usu/Utah

A ton of football left

Salt Lake City, UT

Utah has been exchanging home wins with Oregon State. But that all changed last night. By losing at home they just took a big step backwards in the PAC 12.

Way to go Beavers!

Go Cougs!

Salt Lake City, UT

Silly Brad, the reality of the matter is that next week will BE the utes bowl game. There is no post season for the utes. They and their fans will be home watching and cheering against BYU in the post season, just like last year.

Cool Cat Cosmo
Payson, UT

Rock's analysis of Utah's conference play is spot on. If Utah wants to look like a big boy, they need to consistently play (and beat) the big boys...although it's debatable whether Oregon State qualifies for that title. The last couple of years, they have done moderately well (especially last year), so sure, let's give 'em the benefit of a doubt.

As for his mention of the Utah-BYU rivalry aka Holy War, and his summary "Utah knows how to beat BYU" ...well, we'll certainly see about that next week. My advice to the Utes? Get some rest, then work hard, because this week's game will probably be another brutal one.

Springville, UT

Ute fans will not be happy about this kind of brutal honesty.

Is there enough emotion left for the Utes to get up to play BYU this week or UCLA the following?

Will Ute fans even attempt to get out of bed after last night?

Omaha, NE

Pathetic. The media is now making excuses for Utah's loss next week.

Excuses brought up:
1. They should have won their opening PAC game at home.
2. They were focusing on UCLA next week to get their first PAC win.
3. BYU doesn't really matter because it's like playing Weber.

Why write this article after the game? If this game was so big, why not write it before the game? The BYU game matters but the media is already panicking because they know Utah will be down in the dumps all week and BYU is riding high after a bye week and destroying 5-star studded Texas.

New to Utah

Brad Rock made his point Utah needs an early Pac 12 win. BYU is a much bigger game for the Utes than Oregon State in my opinion. Utah has had the ability to sign Utahs best football players which helps the program in so many ways. BYU needs these athletes so the outcome of the rivalry really matters. Utah is a great football team, watching them play last night, their resilience was unbelievable as was Travis Wilson. BYU has the best team in at least 5 years so it maybe the best game in a decade. BYU has the edge simply because its at home and the Cougars have confidence and enough talent to win.

Tom in CA
Vallejo, CA

" ....... The Utah-BYU game will likely have plenty of emotional punch but less value ..."

Don't kid your self - this will be utah's "bowl" game.


Rock, my man.... You think that Mannion is the best QB in the PAC 12? Are you not allowed to watch Oregon games or something? Have you not heard of UCLA? Mannion is, at most, the third best QB in the PAC 12 behind Mariota and Hundley. Come on, my dude! Utah is in PRETTY deep now after losing a game they needed to win. The demise of USC helps them out a bit, but they need to be perfect at the right times to get into a bowl game this year. That includes beating USC and Arizona State on the road in consecutive weeks. Good luck, Utah.

The Rock
Federal Way, WA

"Utah knows how to beat BYU"

Hold your horses there. Last year BYU beat themselves with a QB that didn't know when to stand down. Same goes for the previous two years. Mistakes and miscues on the part of the BYU offense were a far bigger factor than anything that the Utes did.

Apparently Utah knows how to lose at home to a team that lost at home to Eastern Washington.

Food for the soul.

Salt Lake City, UT

Stirring the pot already Brad?

Layton, UT

Who's byu? We're plying UCLA in 2 weeks.

Mission Viejo, CA

Nice to see the Beavers win a tough game. One of my Alma Maters (UW, OSU), but I still could not get the game in LA. Best game of the night, thriller for sure, and LA stations didn't pick it up. Tough luck for the Utes, but 3 picks will do that for you. Washington hammered Illinois behind an amazing performance by Price and Bishop Stankey. UCLA beating Nebraska and USC looking better, not to mention Oregon and Stanford, indicates a real murderers row for Utah. Luckily, Utah does not play the Huskies this year.

So the BYU game doesn't matter, does it? Good thing, I guess. Sorry Mr. Rock, every game matters if you're not likely to be bowl eligible without it. I does matter a lot to BYU, though. A whole lot. I expect that Utah will find out next Saturday how much it does matter.

Stupid article.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

Any PAC-12 game is more important than BYU. Still fun to win though

I Bleed Blue
Las Vegas, NV

Uh, nice try but Mannion is not the best quarterback in the PAC 12. He's not the best quarterback in Oregon. That would be Marriotti with the ducks. Get ready to hear that fog horn go off numerous times when Oregon puts up at least 60 before calling the dogs off.

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