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Published: Thursday, Sept. 12 2013 4:25 p.m. MDT

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DN Subscriber 2
SLC, UT

The Tribune's decline mirrors that of other dead tree media, especially those which are little more than left wing advocacy organs, such as the venerable New York Times.

Newspapers which try to stick to reporting news, not pushing agendas seem to fare better. Those which recognize changing times and technology and the news gathering habits of the public (itself sadly diminishing) have survived, or even thrived.

The Deseret News teamed with KSL for radio and TV, and KSL.com as a viable marketplace has done well, far better than most newspapers.

As for the Tribune, we can start placing bets as to when they turn the lights off and stop their presses. That will be a happy day when their left wing propaganda is silenced.

Opinionated Utahn
Layton, UT

It's a shame that the Salt Lake Tribune seems to be in a death spiral. Utah needs something to balance the closed-minded right-wing propaganda that spews intolerance to differing opinions. The Deseret News is only around because of joining forces with KSL TV and radio. This trifecta owned by the LDS Church does not instill confidence in me that balanced journalism is at all possible.

michael.jensen369
Lethbridge, 00

@Opinionated Utahn,
Some of the most fair and balanced articles I've ever read about divisive issues like gay marriage and abortion, have been, on Deseret News. Some articles are slightly slanted, but in my experience, they're not flagrantly so, like I've seen on more mainstream and more popular news websites. Some of the most fair and balanced articles I've ever read.....on a news website....owned by a socially conservative church.....in Utah. It's possible. BTW, DN is owned by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, but is independently managed. Besides, what other newspaper would I read or what other newssite could I go to, that gives so much clear, and non-antagonistic up-to-date news on my church? Is a site that covers religious freedom issues for ALL religions, really close-minded? If the DN and the church that owns it is so intolerant, as you say, then why all the humanitarian work, why the counsel from our leaders to be kind and forgiving, and why the heavy emphasis on being charitable and Christ-like to others? Nobody is perfect at it, but that's not the doctrines' fault.

high school fan
Huntington, UT

The demise of the tribune started several years ago and continues today. I used to buy the Trib every day but the newspaper went away from who they had always been and eventually I had enough and I never bought another. I delivered the paper in my youth and I hate to see the sad state that they are in but I believe they have no one to blame but themselves.

Bob K
porland, OR

@michael.jensen369
"Some of the most fair and balanced articles I've ever read about divisive issues like gay marriage and abortion, have been, on Deseret News.....Some of the most fair and balanced articles I've ever read.....on a news website....owned by a socially conservative church.....in Utah. It's possible.

I am sure you believe this -- but look at the current DN article about the bakery that closed after refusing to make a wedding cake for 2 women in OR (a State that has an anti-discrimination law). Only the baker and Fox News (not friendly to Gay rights) are quoted. There is no substantiation for the idea that Gays ganged up on the baker unfairly, and not a single quote from an Oregon citizen who felt they discriminated. Simple logic would dictate that a bakery supported by most of the public could weather a few protests. The article also fails to describe the manner in which the women were turned down.

I personally find many articles on DN to be contrary to what you write. I understand that the readership is conservative, but the truth is God's truth, not for me to mess with.

Liberal Ted
Salt Lake City, UT

One huge trouble with the tribune is that they take on "writers" that worked for the paper at the University of Utah. Which is simply left wing propaganda zero facts article producing arm of alarmists mostly to the wrong issues facing us.

Who else spends time writing articles about why skateboarding around the University of Utah campus and running into people should be tolerated. Or cover anytime someone on the left is offended. Or write about how "evil" any Republican is, when the state has the lowest unemployment rates and lower taxes. Yes it's not the liberal utopia the trib would like us to be, but, we are still one of the fastest growing states with people migrating here as oppose to California than exports people.

It doesn't help either when the Trib spends too much time bashing religion and promoting any atheists or democrat that used to be a "Mormon" and how they found the "truth" and left the church. Those stories get old and serve no purpose. How many people really care to read about that? Obviously not enough to support the staff they laid off. Which probably is also due to obamacare.

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

Before the gloating commences, please remember that there is another newspaper in Utah that in 2010 cut 43% of it's workforce, and that paper is hardly "left wing propaganda."

Elcapitan
Ivins, UT

Harrah to Liberal Ted. I will continue to read your not so Liberal posts with interest.

I grew up around the newspaper business with retail advertising being our objective.I delivered the Deseret New on my horse. My dad wrote all our newpsaper adds and I remember driving all the way downtown just to buy a Sunday edition on Saturday night so we could see the company add early on. We were the Tribune's largest retail store advertiser at the time. that was then, seventy or more years ago. I watched things change over the years. Newsprint was the way we brought in the business and got the word out about everything. That was then before things changed with the advent of TV, and now the internet.

the Deseret News also "grew up" to become a dominant force in the community as times changed. It is still here because the church that owns it has seen dynamic growth and has influenced it's editorial direction. The Tribune has died out in the area because it often opposed the LDS Church's editorial positions.They joined the ranks of the dying liberal media.

JWB
Kaysville, UT

If they cut back, that means the commenters may flow to the DN for a change in the constructive way the DN handles their affairs and journalism. Those people still need an outlet for their comments with articles from their paper to foment those comments.

Thanks for this avenue at the DN.

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

@Elcapitan

"The Tribune has died out in the area because it often opposed the LDS Church's editorial positions.They joined the ranks of the dying liberal media."

It is easy to gloat and poke fingers at the Tribune, but please remember that the Deseret News eliminated 43% of it's workforce and moved from their own building on 100 S. to shared space with KSL in 2010.

Are you saying then, that the Deseret News joined the ranks of the "dying liberal media" back in 2010?

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

A little primer on the Trib. A disaffected Mormon by the name of Godbe began publishing the newspaper to protest the grip Mormons held in Salt Lake. He would be followed by gentiles in the mining and railroad business who took up the cause.
Over the years the the Trib was considered the independent voice in Utah.
The newspaper business is dying and conservative newspapers seem to do a little better job of surviving. Maybe it is a function of demographics. Older folks tend to still read the paper.
Certainly Utah is more conservative than most states. The Trib would not appeal to the target audience by virtue of their raison d'être.
It is folly to think the Deseret News is safe from the decline; only buying time as new media takes its place as the source of information.
And new media is indeed the wild, wild west of journalism.

SF87
Salt Lake City, UT

Because the Deseret News didn't layoff 40% of their staff more than 2 years ago before aligning itself with KSL. We've all noticed the difference.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

Perhaps once we reach the progressive utopia of having a single payer system for heath care - the federal government - which does away with private health insurance companies then we could also go to a federal news agency - one station for news - sort of like the old Soviet news station Pravda. Yes one stop shopping for news and propaganda. No need for more than one opinion...right?? A progressives dream!!!

michael.jensen369
Lethbridge, 00

@Bob K
After reading your comment, I did some research about the article you mentioned. NBC, The Huffington Post, and even Media Matters covered the same issue, and none of them had any quotes by the lesbian women, or any gay-rights activists. I don't know the whole situation behind the reporting, but that is what I found. I also found on the NBC video that the owner stated that he has homosexuals come into his shop and buy stuff on almost a weekly basis, and he said that he has nothing wrong with them being homosexual, but that he simply does not support gay marriage. So there is a dichotomy here. Secondly, I do appreciate your insight, and granted, as I acquiesced, sometimes DN is slightly slanted, but also, in my experience, not egregiously so. I've found much more biased and slanted articles on pretty much all of the mainstream news media sites, such as CNN and FOX, so yeah, I think that DN's track record is pretty good. Thank you for your comment, and thank you for actually being civil about it. I very very very much appreciate that.

mountain man
Salt Lake City, UT

I like the tribune. I may be a minority but the thing that kills me about the deseret news is its "approval" for anyones comments.
I have had a few of my comments unapproved for print. This is absurd. It feels like communism. Im i alone in my frustration?

brownderby
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Re Mountain Man,
For the very few DN comments that are unapproved, the Trib comments are wide open and generally so abusive that my eyes glaze over and I weary of reading them. Go ahead and comment at the Trib. And no, it is not communism, it is just orderly

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