I'm glad to see the DesNews sees this as "News" or at least
"Comment" worthy. I was starting to wonder if they were going to
publish anything on this breaking news today.I'm glad the Feds
investigated and cleared him.Note: Stupidity is still not a criminal
offense.I'll be interested to see if the people who were
calling for him to cast into prison for the many "CRIMES" he
committed... if they will be back pedaling at all today now that FEDERAL
investigators (not connected with the always suspect Utah Legislature)
"Cleared" John Swallow.Some people have been so intently
counting-crow over their opponent when there was just accusations and newspaper
articles. I'm wondering if they will be EATING-crow now that he's
been legally and officially cleared.As for the Utah Legislature
deciding to commit $3 Million Dollars to continue investigating... I guess they
have to do what they have to do.I HOPE Utah clears him too. I Hate
to see someone torn apart by the media political opportunists. But IF Utah
finds a crime was committed and convicts... I will have no sympathy for him.
"...I Hate to see someone torn apart by the media political
opportunists...".Unless...of course, it's republican
political opportunists tearing apart a member of the Democratic Party.
How disappointing this must be for the Legislature and the newspapers to have it
rain on their "get-John-Swallow parade." I have a suggestion for the
ongoing multi-million dollar Legislative witch hunt: only allow those
Legislators to participate in the hunt who have never used their influence to
advance their own personal interest or the interests of their family, business
associates or close friends. Something tells me you would be able to hear a pin
drop in the Legislative Chambers if this were the rule.
“I always knew at the end of the day there was nothing they could charge
me with," Shurtleff said.Notice he didn't say he did
nothing wrong or unethical, just he couldn't be charged. Nice dodge.
2 Bits,I am amazed that you would dismiss his actions. You are rejoicing
because he's been cleared. Yet, at best, he demonstrated extremely poor
judgement and his actions were definitely inappropriate. Your attitude is
what's wrong with society. Just because he may not be convicted of illegal
actions, that does not mean he is a moral man with sound judgement. He has
proven without a doubt he lacks those two things. So, I am not one of those you
name that have been asking for him to be thrown in jail, but I am not happy that
he is maintaining his position. And I am certainly disappointed in people like
you who's moral compass seems to be mislaid.
Despite the best efforts of Obama's "Justice" Department, they
found no criminal activity by Attorney General Swallow.Still, the
lynch mobs (incited by actual convicted criminals who made the allegations) will
not stop.At the end of the day, the only question about John Swallow
will be "Where does a man go to get his reputation back?"
Any WAY you look at this situation, it is an eye-sore for Utah with respect to
the “pay to play politics” that continues to erode the public trust.
If this situation were in other states, the outcome would have been completely
different, wherein the Shurtleff, Swallows, and Steve Turleys of the world,
would have been held to higher and more objective standards. It is well known
that the Utah AG’s office, has been cozy with predatory lending, MLM, etc.
The business culture and “good old boys club” has proliferated
affinity fraud, conflicts of interest, all couched in the innate LDS culture
that doesn’t want to truly acknowledge what it truly has become. Rather
than acknowledging or highlighting such adverse business political culture and
practices, the issues are swept under the rug, disguised as the exception rather
than the rule, or censored as being inconsistent with the overall LDS message
that is being portrayed. The nativity of the Utah culture in this regards,
especially as it relates to public officials that are BYU grads or LDS church
leaders, speaks volumes. For those outside of Utah, the fiction and hypocrisy is
fairly, clearly, and loudly apparent.
Just because you didn't do anything illegal (mostly because law makers
refuse to pass ethics laws) doesn't mean your not sleeze. Larry Flynt
doesn't do anything criminal either, yet I doubt DN Subscriber would
suggest he's got a reputation that needs restoring. "Do they know about
the boat?" John Swallow at a secret meeting with a criminal recording him
secretly because even the criminal knew better than to trust "Utah's
top law enforcement officer."Former Utah Alumni said it nicely.
@There You Go Again,NO... I think it's sad when Democrats get torn
apart and their lives destroyed by the media as well.I thought it
was sad when Allan Howe (A Democrat) was caught soliciting prostitutes and his
career went down the drain. He was a good man.I felt bad when Mel
Brown was taken down by the media catching hold of some bad decisions. He was
a neighbor and I was good friends with his children (who took the brunt of
it).I felt bad for DeeDee Corradini and the mostly media fed
"GiftGate" that took her down. I felt bad when Kevin Garn
had his life destroyed when the Tribune found out that he had been in a hot tub
with a girl 25 years earlier (before his political career).It was
sad when Dave Watson had to step down when the media found out about a DUI
accusation.It was sad when Nancy Workman had her career destroyed
when a slew of scandals enveloped her last years in office (later dropped).About half of these people were Democrats. It's still sad. It
Tenn12,I didn't dismiss his actions. I didn't say what he did
was fine. I'm just glad the Feds brought some objectivity into this
(instead of the constant barrage of partisan venom).The Feds said he
committed no crime. That doesn't mean he made no bad decisions. IF they
found evidence that he committed a "crime"... he would be answering to
the Feds right now. But they didn't. But like I said, that doesn't
dismiss his actions. It just means instead of answering to the Feds and facing
jail time... he'll be answering to the voters, and facing not getting his
job back next election. That's what I've always said should happen.
Vote him out... don't throw him in jail to satisfy some people's
political blood lust.IF "My attitude is what's wrong with
society"... if by not judging him I'm the problem... then I'm glad
to be the problem.
So did Shurtleff and Swallow go to the Newport Beach villa? If so, can they
provide receipts for their expenses? If not, who paid? These are simple
questions. Where are the answers? Or will this newpaper take their word on
face value? Rather than unchallenged statements to the press, where is the
independent review of these elected law enforcement people?
2 bits,I commend you on trying but as one of the most active posters on
this website, you are not objective. I know you will disagree, but anyone who
is objective can see where your opinions constantly lie. I believe most of
those people on here that have been most critical of Swallow and Shurtleff did
so in part because if Swallow and Shurtleff were simply members of another
party, they would have received the same "partisan venom" from people
like you. If you wish to deny it, fine, but you know as well as I do that my
statement is valid about most others. Lastly, I can and should make judgements
about him. The facts are in. He used poor judgements and made completely
inappropriate decisions. I am not making rash decisions, we know what he did.
You misunderstand when we can and should make judgements. Making judgements is
how we make decisions. Final judgements are the ones not too be made.
"On the breakfast table at Mimi's Cafe, Darl McBride had eggs and
potatoes served in a fried tortilla and an offer of $2 million from Utah's
then-attorney general, Mark Shurtleff, if he would just shut his mouth.""So it was that McBride found himself sitting across from Shurtleff
in May 2009, listening to the state's chief law-enforcement officer trying
to persuade him to ditch the website and offering to get McBride $2 million if
he backed off Robbins.""McBride recorded the conversation
and has turned over a copy to federal agents, part of a wide-ranging
investigation into alleged misconduct in the attorney general's office
under Shurtleff and his successor, John Swallow.""Jenson
said Shurtleff asked for the money in 2009 when he paid for Shurtleff and
Swallow to visit his posh villa in Newport Beach, California."“John Swallow was by Shurtleff’s side when Mark Shurtleff asked me
for $2 million,” Jenson said. “Mark Shurtleff treated it as if he
were asking for $2.”Investigate. If Swallow knew about the
$2M, based on what Swallow hasn't donethis year, (Shurtleff in Jail)
Impeach. Malfeasance in Office.
Former Utah AlumniOrem, UTThere seems to be a conspiracy and bogey
man around every corner, doesn't there? Utah isn't really that bad and
it certainly isn't worse than any other of the five states in which I have
lived and worked. It's governance and finances are rated among the highest
in the country. Sorry you're so unhappy.
Because it turns out that, while vile and reprehensible, bribery is legal in
Esquire,I wonder if you realize that it's not a crime to go to a
Newport Beach villa. Tenn12,You are right about one thing.
The facts are in. The Feds just saw the facts and came to a different
conclusion than you did.I never said I was "objective", nor
do I cane if you think I'm objective. I'm just stating my
"opinion".Unlike you and Esquire... I don't assume my
"opinion" is "fact". It's just my "opinion".
Nothing more. That's why the moniker (2bits)... I'm just saying what
I think (for what it's worth).Utah_1,Obviously the
Federal investigators didn't find the story you keep quoting was as
credible as you do. Or they would have charged him. But they didn't.
So obviously they didn't believe it was the truth.The Federal
Investigation is over. They decided there was nothing to charge. You guys
can keep prosecuting him in the comment section as if you have all the facts...
but I trust the Federal investigation was more "objective" than yours.
John Swallow is innocent of all accusations. Period!Start focusing
on huge problems like Benghazi and the death of 4 Americans (all information is
locked and sealed), the IRS Scandal, NSA, Fast and Furious, Syria miscues,
Welfare fraud, voter fraud, illegal immigration, and a thousand other
"impeachable" issues! Research everyone of them in minute`detail as some
have described the events of these men's lives. Then take action and help
save our country!
But, but, this just can't be! He has to be found guilty of something.
Isn't that what the media have been intimating? They, along with those
with a political ax to grind, just keep hoping to find something/anything else
and waste time and taxpayer money on with this.
2 bits,You say the Feds came to a different conclusion than I did. This
is news to me. What conclusion did I have? I think I stated pretty clearly
that he may not have broken any law but what he did was immoral and
inappropriate. The Feds are judging him for the law. So how is their
conclusion different than mine? Thank you, try again. The facts are his
actions were not appropriate. Nobody should excuse his actions though ruled
legal. As I said, there are many immoral activities that by letter of the law
are legal. Shall we excuse them? We in Utah should be better than this. I
expected more of Swallow and would for anyone else that faces similar
Well, if the Federal Government (not they are such a great example) did not find
cause to file charges, could not the Utah House accept that and same the tax
payers (US) a whole bunch of money??? If you don't like Swallow, get a
group together and vote him out next election...viva democracy!!
The federal government and agencies didn't elect either of these Attorneys
General, the state of Utah citizens did. It is good that the Federal agents
looked into the case as it was about a potential involvement with the U.S.
Senate majority leader. Criminal is what they address but there are other
aspects of this case the State of Utah has as a responsibility to investigate.
Two of our top law enforcers were involved in alleged activities that are
noteworthy for an outside group of attorneys along with legislative elected
officials should look into. Having lived in Illinois for 9 years, they always
have allegations against elected officials and there are quite a few of those
elected officials in prison.Unfortunately, Illinois has a history of
these type of problems. If Mr. Swallow isn't guilty of the various
allegations, then it is a motivation for other elected and non-elected
bureaucrats to know that this state takes these type of allegations seriously.
The Attorney General should be appointed by the Governor. Isn't Swallow a
member of his cabinet? The Governor could then retain him or dismiss the
attorney General as he feels is appropriate. Problem solved. It continues to
puzzle me why we elect sheriff's, district attorney's, auditors, etc.
The mentioned positions are not political and should be appointed. Politics and
law enforcement should not be mixed.
So the independent investigation exonerated Swallow. It would be nice if that
could be the end of it. But Dubakis and the democrats will keep crying wolf, and
slinging mud, hoping something sticks, all the while wasting the tax
payers' money. Wouldn't that money and effort be better
spent in Utah schools?
Several other investigations remained open, including a probe by two county
district attorneys into whether Swallow's office broke any state laws.Swallow also is the subject of two complaints to the Utah State Bar. One
is related to the bribery case. The other alleges general violations of ethical
standards required of attorneys.In addition, the state elections
office is investigating allegations that Swallow violated campaign laws by
failing to disclose several business interests. And a Utah House committee has
launched a fact-finding probe involving all the allegations that could lead to
impeachment.Innocent? hardly, he's got a couple more hurdles
before the swallow fan club should rejoice. And really, if they can't
understand that he is ethically devoid, and a sleazy (listen to the recordings),
than perhaps your of the same loose moral code as he.
Whatever -- He still faces GOD for what he's done.