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Published: Thursday, Sept. 12 2013 9:45 a.m. MDT

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2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I'm glad to see the DesNews sees this as "News" or at least "Comment" worthy. I was starting to wonder if they were going to publish anything on this breaking news today.

I'm glad the Feds investigated and cleared him.

Note: Stupidity is still not a criminal offense.

I'll be interested to see if the people who were calling for him to cast into prison for the many "CRIMES" he committed... if they will be back pedaling at all today now that FEDERAL investigators (not connected with the always suspect Utah Legislature) "Cleared" John Swallow.

Some people have been so intently counting-crow over their opponent when there was just accusations and newspaper articles. I'm wondering if they will be EATING-crow now that he's been legally and officially cleared.

As for the Utah Legislature deciding to commit $3 Million Dollars to continue investigating... I guess they have to do what they have to do.

I HOPE Utah clears him too. I Hate to see someone torn apart by the media political opportunists. But IF Utah finds a crime was committed and convicts... I will have no sympathy for him.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

"...I Hate to see someone torn apart by the media political opportunists...".

Unless...of course, it's republican political opportunists tearing apart a member of the Democratic Party.

Mighty Mouse
Salt Lake City, Utah

How disappointing this must be for the Legislature and the newspapers to have it rain on their "get-John-Swallow parade." I have a suggestion for the ongoing multi-million dollar Legislative witch hunt: only allow those Legislators to participate in the hunt who have never used their influence to advance their own personal interest or the interests of their family, business associates or close friends. Something tells me you would be able to hear a pin drop in the Legislative Chambers if this were the rule.

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

“I always knew at the end of the day there was nothing they could charge me with," Shurtleff said.

Notice he didn't say he did nothing wrong or unethical, just he couldn't be charged. Nice dodge.

Tenn12
Orem, UT

2 Bits,
I am amazed that you would dismiss his actions. You are rejoicing because he's been cleared. Yet, at best, he demonstrated extremely poor judgement and his actions were definitely inappropriate. Your attitude is what's wrong with society. Just because he may not be convicted of illegal actions, that does not mean he is a moral man with sound judgement. He has proven without a doubt he lacks those two things. So, I am not one of those you name that have been asking for him to be thrown in jail, but I am not happy that he is maintaining his position. And I am certainly disappointed in people like you who's moral compass seems to be mislaid.

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Despite the best efforts of Obama's "Justice" Department, they found no criminal activity by Attorney General Swallow.

Still, the lynch mobs (incited by actual convicted criminals who made the allegations) will not stop.

At the end of the day, the only question about John Swallow will be "Where does a man go to get his reputation back?"

Former Utah Alumni
Orem, UT

Any WAY you look at this situation, it is an eye-sore for Utah with respect to the “pay to play politics” that continues to erode the public trust. If this situation were in other states, the outcome would have been completely different, wherein the Shurtleff, Swallows, and Steve Turleys of the world, would have been held to higher and more objective standards. It is well known that the Utah AG’s office, has been cozy with predatory lending, MLM, etc. The business culture and “good old boys club” has proliferated affinity fraud, conflicts of interest, all couched in the innate LDS culture that doesn’t want to truly acknowledge what it truly has become. Rather than acknowledging or highlighting such adverse business political culture and practices, the issues are swept under the rug, disguised as the exception rather than the rule, or censored as being inconsistent with the overall LDS message that is being portrayed. The nativity of the Utah culture in this regards, especially as it relates to public officials that are BYU grads or LDS church leaders, speaks volumes. For those outside of Utah, the fiction and hypocrisy is fairly, clearly, and loudly apparent.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

Just because you didn't do anything illegal (mostly because law makers refuse to pass ethics laws) doesn't mean your not sleeze. Larry Flynt doesn't do anything criminal either, yet I doubt DN Subscriber would suggest he's got a reputation that needs restoring. "Do they know about the boat?" John Swallow at a secret meeting with a criminal recording him secretly because even the criminal knew better than to trust "Utah's top law enforcement officer."

Former Utah Alumni said it nicely.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

@There You Go Again,
NO... I think it's sad when Democrats get torn apart and their lives destroyed by the media as well.

I thought it was sad when Allan Howe (A Democrat) was caught soliciting prostitutes and his career went down the drain. He was a good man.

I felt bad when Mel Brown was taken down by the media catching hold of some bad decisions. He was a neighbor and I was good friends with his children (who took the brunt of it).

I felt bad for DeeDee Corradini and the mostly media fed "GiftGate" that took her down.

I felt bad when Kevin Garn had his life destroyed when the Tribune found out that he had been in a hot tub with a girl 25 years earlier (before his political career).

It was sad when Dave Watson had to step down when the media found out about a DUI accusation.

It was sad when Nancy Workman had her career destroyed when a slew of scandals enveloped her last years in office (later dropped).

About half of these people were Democrats. It's still sad. It destroys lives.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Tenn12,
I didn't dismiss his actions. I didn't say what he did was fine. I'm just glad the Feds brought some objectivity into this (instead of the constant barrage of partisan venom).

The Feds said he committed no crime. That doesn't mean he made no bad decisions. IF they found evidence that he committed a "crime"... he would be answering to the Feds right now. But they didn't. But like I said, that doesn't dismiss his actions. It just means instead of answering to the Feds and facing jail time... he'll be answering to the voters, and facing not getting his job back next election. That's what I've always said should happen. Vote him out... don't throw him in jail to satisfy some people's political blood lust.

IF "My attitude is what's wrong with society"... if by not judging him I'm the problem... then I'm glad to be the problem.

Esquire
Springville, UT

So did Shurtleff and Swallow go to the Newport Beach villa? If so, can they provide receipts for their expenses? If not, who paid? These are simple questions. Where are the answers? Or will this newpaper take their word on face value? Rather than unchallenged statements to the press, where is the independent review of these elected law enforcement people?

Tenn12
Orem, UT

2 bits,
I commend you on trying but as one of the most active posters on this website, you are not objective. I know you will disagree, but anyone who is objective can see where your opinions constantly lie. I believe most of those people on here that have been most critical of Swallow and Shurtleff did so in part because if Swallow and Shurtleff were simply members of another party, they would have received the same "partisan venom" from people like you. If you wish to deny it, fine, but you know as well as I do that my statement is valid about most others. Lastly, I can and should make judgements about him. The facts are in. He used poor judgements and made completely inappropriate decisions. I am not making rash decisions, we know what he did. You misunderstand when we can and should make judgements. Making judgements is how we make decisions. Final judgements are the ones not too be made.

Utah_1
Salt Lake City, UT

"On the breakfast table at Mimi's Cafe, Darl McBride had eggs and potatoes served in a fried tortilla and an offer of $2 million from Utah's then-attorney general, Mark Shurtleff, if he would just shut his mouth."

"So it was that McBride found himself sitting across from Shurtleff in May 2009, listening to the state's chief law-enforcement officer trying to persuade him to ditch the website and offering to get McBride $2 million if he backed off Robbins."

"McBride recorded the conversation and has turned over a copy to federal agents, part of a wide-ranging investigation into alleged misconduct in the attorney general's office under Shurtleff and his successor, John Swallow."

"Jenson said Shurtleff asked for the money in 2009 when he paid for Shurtleff and Swallow to visit his posh villa in Newport Beach, California."

“John Swallow was by Shurtleff’s side when Mark Shurtleff asked me for $2 million,” Jenson said. “Mark Shurtleff treated it as if he were asking for $2.”

Investigate. If Swallow knew about the $2M, based on what Swallow hasn't done
this year, (Shurtleff in Jail) Impeach. Malfeasance in Office.

VST
Bountiful, UT

@Tenn12 said this about 2-bits,

“I commend you on trying but as one of the most active posters on this website, you are not objective.”

Careful – someone may accuse you of being “pot calling the kettle black.”
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@Utah_1 also said,

"McBride recorded the conversation and has turned over a copy to federal agents, part of a wide-ranging investigation into alleged misconduct in the attorney general's office under Shurtleff and his successor, John Swallow."

Obviously, the U.S. Justice Department did not see it the same way you do.

Owl
Salt Lake City, UT

Former Utah Alumni
Orem, UT
There seems to be a conspiracy and bogey man around every corner, doesn't there? Utah isn't really that bad and it certainly isn't worse than any other of the five states in which I have lived and worked. It's governance and finances are rated among the highest in the country. Sorry you're so unhappy.

Schwa
South Jordan, UT

Because it turns out that, while vile and reprehensible, bribery is legal in America.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Esquire,
I wonder if you realize that it's not a crime to go to a Newport Beach villa.

Tenn12,
You are right about one thing. The facts are in. The Feds just saw the facts and came to a different conclusion than you did.

I never said I was "objective", nor do I cane if you think I'm objective. I'm just stating my "opinion".

Unlike you and Esquire... I don't assume my "opinion" is "fact". It's just my "opinion". Nothing more. That's why the moniker (2bits)... I'm just saying what I think (for what it's worth).

Utah_1,
Obviously the Federal investigators didn't find the story you keep quoting was as credible as you do. Or they would have charged him. But they didn't. So obviously they didn't believe it was the truth.

The Federal Investigation is over. They decided there was nothing to charge. You guys can keep prosecuting him in the comment section as if you have all the facts... but I trust the Federal investigation was more "objective" than yours.

BYUalum
South Jordan, UT

John Swallow is innocent of all accusations. Period!

Start focusing on huge problems like Benghazi and the death of 4 Americans (all information is locked and sealed), the IRS Scandal, NSA, Fast and Furious, Syria miscues, Welfare fraud, voter fraud, illegal immigration, and a thousand other "impeachable" issues! Research everyone of them in minute`detail as some have described the events of these men's lives. Then take action and help save our country!

dogchow1
Salt Lake City, UT

But, but, this just can't be! He has to be found guilty of something. Isn't that what the media have been intimating? They, along with those with a political ax to grind, just keep hoping to find something/anything else and waste time and taxpayer money on with this.

Tenn12
Orem, UT

2 bits,
You say the Feds came to a different conclusion than I did. This is news to me. What conclusion did I have? I think I stated pretty clearly that he may not have broken any law but what he did was immoral and inappropriate. The Feds are judging him for the law. So how is their conclusion different than mine? Thank you, try again.
The facts are his actions were not appropriate. Nobody should excuse his actions though ruled legal. As I said, there are many immoral activities that by letter of the law are legal. Shall we excuse them? We in Utah should be better than this. I expected more of Swallow and would for anyone else that faces similar situations.

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