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Published: Friday, Sept. 13 2013 12:03 a.m. MDT

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gdog3finally
West Jordan, Utah

Oh brother. One would think Teeples would be embarrassed to write this stuff.

Sparkley Briefs
New York, NY

This just in....Travis Wilson on track to be the next Tom Brady, providing he improves his passing and decision-making skills. Chin cleft still under construction.

CordonBleu
Park City, UT

Uteology

"Past performance is a good indicator of future performance."

So you're waying that no college football player has ever improved his performance dramatically after his first five games started?

The delusional spin that the kids on the hill have to resort to to defend their wild theories is truly laughable.

dustman
Gallup, NM

I'm a Taysom Hill fan, but Kaepernick is a monster. Right now. No comparison.

dustman
Gallup, NM

We have some great receivers that haven't received a pass. Don't even try and compare.

TheSportsAuthority
Arlington, VA

Uteology

Steve Young's Sophomore season stats, his first year playing, weren't particularly good either:

11 games played, 56 of 112 (50%), 731 yards, 5 TDs, 5 ints, 6.5 ypa, 110.63 rating
53 rushes, 337 yards, 0 TDs, 6.4 ypa

Taysom Hill only started 3 games as a Freshman, barely played in 2 others, and has only started 2 games as a Sophomore:

7 games played, 64 of 137 (47%), 729 yards, 5 TDs, 4 ints, 5.3 ypa, 97.6 rating
83 rushes, 635 yards, 8 TDs, 7.7 ypa

As a Freshman:

5 games played, 42 of 71 (59%), 425 yards, 4 TDs, 2 ints, 6.0 ypa, 122.4 rating

Haters and naysayers who are already predicting that Taysom Hill is destined for failure simply because his passing accuracy has been a little off in his first two games this season, may be in for a rude awakening.

Wookie
Omaha, NE

@ Uteanymous

Well educate me more please. Help me understand from all of those schools where Jason Beck has coached, what QB has he tutored and developed into a NFL caliber QB. I have no doubt as to the success that the Y had in the past with QBs under Chow, who as you are already aware had great success at USC.

I look forward to your reply.

Go UTES!!

Y Ask Y
Provo, UT

Get a clue, fanatics.

Nobody is predicting Hill's failure. We are just saying this comparison is laughable!

And it is, even to a BYU grad/fan such as myself.

talkinsports
Gilbert, AZ

Wookie

"He [Taysom Hill] may, as I stated, be a better QB that[sic] Kaepernick, but his talent WILL NOT BE DEVELOPED [emphasis added] by the current coaches."

You're the one "claiming" to be an "expert" here, so why don't you explain to us IN DETAIL why Jason Beck is incapable of tutoring and developing an NFL caliber QB.

btw, this is what a true expert had to say about Taysom:

"When Taysom finds a pace he will improve. Reps and time will help." -Steve Young

Its laughable how Utah fans had all kinds of whiny excuses to explain why Alex Smith wasn't an instant success in the NFL, even after YEARS of mediocrity, yet they want to write Taysom Hill off as a complete failure with absolutely no capacity for improvement after only 5 starts.

CordonBleu
Park City, UT

Y Ask Y

"Nobody is predicting Hill's failure."

Don't kid yourself; that's exactly what the haters are predicting.

You might be a BYU grad, but it's blatantly obvious from your constant sniping at BYU that you're not a BYU fan.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

No comparison. Kaepernick has the complete package...maybe in the top 5 NFL QB list today. Kaepernick can run and throw plus he has the height to see the defense. A rare combination indeed. Hill can run...and his throwing ability is still evolving.

Wookie
Omaha, NE

@ Talkinsports

Maybe you can educate me as well. Who has Jason Beck mentored into becoming an NLF caliber QB at the schools where he has coached? I am not certain if he is incapable or not. I am asking who he has thus far during his coaching stints.

I love Steve Young as I have been a lifelong 9er fan. I am not familiar with Steve's comments or what context he may have made those comments. However, upon first blush, I would have to agree, time and experience will make anyone good. However, will this translate into him being an NLF caliber QB? I am not certain. I have only stated the facts as to when the last time the Y produced an NLF caliber QB? And what coaches helped them to get there?

As for Alex Smith, I am not certain why he even came into this discussion as I have said nothing about him. However, Alex has developed into a decent QB once he had the right coaches in place for his success. Even Andy Reid has made reference to why he struggled early in his career and why he has turned it around.

GO UTES!

Mike W
Syracuse, UT

Laughable! They're not even comparable... maybe compare Taysom to Eric Crouch, Jamelle Holieway or Tim Tebow, but until his passing gets a heck of a lot better, there will be no similarity between Hill and Kaepernick.

"Throws a better ball" ROFL!!! Are we watching the same games?

Rockwell
Baltimore, MD

Wookie

John Beck and Max Hall both played in the NFL. Although neither had an outstanding NFL career, they were, by definition, NFL caliber quarterbacks.

Brandon Doman was also signed by the 49ers, and although he never played in a regular-season NFL game, he did spend two seasons on the 49ers's roster.

All three accomplished something Utah's Sugar Bowl winning quarterback Brian Johnson couldn't, that is, they all actually made an NFL roster.

Alex Smith was obviously brought into the conversation to illustrate how wildly inconsistent Utah fans are with their evaluations. Utah fans have already labeled Taysom a bust because he's had a couple of sub-par passing games in his 4th and 5th games as a starter. Alex Smith was still being given a free pass by Utah fans after years and years of mediocrity in the NFL.

If your crimson glasses have blinded you from seeing the inconsistency there, I can't help you.

BlueCoug
Orem, UT

Wookie

Steve Young's comments were made on a radio program today while he was discussing Taysom's passing struggles in his first couple of games this year.

If anybody knows what it takes to go from a below-average passer who could run as a Sophomore, to a very effective, highly-rated passer as a Senior, it's Steve - in fact, he could say, "been there, done that", and much, much more!

Wookie
Omaha, NE

@ Rockwell. Thank you for the information you shared, very helpful. I had forgotten about Brandon, John and Max (I actually try to forget Max because of his tirade). I was surprised that BJ didn't make a roster, but he obviously didn't make the NFL for a reason, one that I cannot comprehend because I am not that talented or gifted.

What about Jason, what QB has he developed into an NFL caliber QB? I think Taysom is talented no doubt about that, but it could go all to waste if he isn't taught proper techniques.

As for Alex Smith, he was not ready to start for a team that was as sorry as the 9ers were when he was drafted. He, like Tebow, was never taught fundamentals necessary to succeed in the NFL. This has been documented by Harbaugh and Andy Reid as to his struggles early on. He will, in my opinion, only be a game manager and not a Pro-Bowl QB.

I am not certain why the personal attack claiming I have crimson glasses. I merely asked questions to which most have been answered aside from who Jason has coached into an NFL QB.

Wookie
Omaha, NE

Thank you BlueCoug:

Steve is my all time favorite QB. Loved his run against minnesota, classic run of all time for a QB. Similar to Alex, Steve's first few years in the NFL weren't all that great with Tampa, but once he was with a better team he flourished as we know. Go 9ers! What separated Steve from Alex was Norm Chow, arguably a master mind for QB development and he has a track record to show it. Urban, not so much.

I would trust Steve's comments more if Taysom has a coach that will teach him proper fundamentals of the position.

BTW, thank you for clarifying.

Go UTES!!

phoenix
Gilbert, AZ

Gotta luv the arrogant, condescending, short-sighted opinions of the haters and naysayers.

Taysom couldn't possibly be as good as Kaepernick, because, um, Colin is obviously much better than Taysom, today.

Here's a litte history lesson to prove that your baseless predictions for Taysom's long-term potential could all be dead wrong:

Steve Young
*1981 - 11 games, 56-112 (50%), 731 yds, 5 TDs, 5 ints, 6.5 ypa, 110.6 rating (ur)
1982 - 11 games, 230-367 (62.7%), 3,100 yds, 18 TDs, 18 ints, 8.4 ypa, 140.0 rating (7th)
1983 - 11 games, 306-429 (71.3%), 3,902 yds, 33 TDs, 10 ints, 9.1 ypa, 168.5 rating (1st)

* Didn't throw the minimum 14 passes/game to be ranked; Jim McMahon was #1 at 155.0; #20 at 124.4

National College Football Hall of Fame, Super Bowl MVP

The truth is, NOBODY knows how good Taysom will become; but to claim that he couldn't possibly ever be as good as Young or Kaepernick is nothing but speculation based on nothing but biased opinion.

Uteanymous
Salt Lake City, Utah

Wookie

Who has BJ or DE mentored into an NFL caliber QB at Utah?

A washed up has been and a still wet-behind-the-ears wannabe haven't proven that they're capable of mentoring anybody from Utah into an NFL caliber QB, so what's your point?

VegasJazzFan
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I may have to switch to the other local news publication* after this joke of an article.
*publication withheld due to moderator denial

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