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The only reason the star is a Cougar is because he desperately wanted to be one

Published: Thursday, Sept. 12 2013 8:05 a.m. MDT

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Ted H.
Midvale, UT

Nice to see a coach taking a DUI seriously. Bronco could have just let it go since he wasn't a member of the team or university yet. As the article states, countless other coaches were more than willing to do that.

And we see it today, a DUI is typically a 1 game suspension to coaches who care more about winning than doing what is right. I had a family member killed by a drunk driver so I have no sympathy for those who commit a DUI. I get sick when I see college coaches give a kid a slap on the wrist for a DUI. We've seen here in our state recently. It shows the coaches are almost as pathetic as the kid who got the DUI.

Just as bad is when the coach/fans hide behind the "give him a second chance" as justification for getting the kid on the field as quickly as possible. I'm fine with a second chance, but punish them for what they did. A 1 game slap on the wrist for an action that does kill people? Makes me ill.

Stansbury Park, ut

Wow incredible, marvelous story...

Baltimore, MD

After reading this story, my respect for Bronco and Kyle just went up another notch.

Bronco indeed practices what he preaches when it comes to sincerely caring about the young men who enter his program.

Thanks Kyle for having the conviction and fortitude to make good on your second chance.

Lincoln Park, IL

Now I understand better why Kyle and Bronco have such a close bond.

Bronco may not be the only coach who would do something like this for a player, but he's the only one I can think of.

And Kyle's devotion to Bronco and BYU may be even more unique.

They're both great examples of love and redemption.

Salt Lake, UT

Anyone who says that BYU can't win a national championship because of their honor code is wrong. Kyle Van Noy is proof you can get the best talent with the best character. I would take his honesty with any flaws over someone who hides their mistakes. What a great kid.

Provo, UT

Already a Champ KVN. Always remember the reason why joined BYU. Good luck with the rest of the season!!!

Rexburg, ID

President Uchtdorf has quoted a bumper sticker that reads, "Don't judge me because I sin differently than you". Sometimes we are quick to cast stones and condemn someone for their bag of sins. This is especially the case with BYU sports. There is no question that the honor code sets the bar high. In the context of the purpose of BYU athletics for the church, that makes perfect sense. As ambassadors for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the expectations need to be high. But, those expectations can create cynicism in the observer when athletes with public troubles suit up and play. What this story also helps the observer understand is the purpose of BYU sports for the athlete. President Monson taught, "... we have the responsibility to see individuals not as they are but rather as they can become. I would plead with you to think of them in this way." I appreciate how this story illustrates this teaching while demonstrating the crucial and sensitive balance between justice and mercy.

Bristow, United States

It seems as if those who aren't athletes specificslly star athletes don't get 2nd or 3rd chances. I'm willing to bet had van noy or Brandon Davies not been athletes they would have received harsher punishment.

Orem, UT

Much respect. The gospel of Jesus Christ in action. Thanks, Bronco. Thanks, Kyle. Thanks, Mr. Benedict. This made my day and will affect how I deal with my students at the University.


I was unaware of the second run in with the law but, am glad BYU and Kyle handled this as they did. Hopefully he's able to maintain what he has done a great job putting together when he's at the next level. The environment will be far different.

Floyd Johnson
Broken Arrow, OK

Where is does football come on the list of priorities again? I appreciate the liberties taken for the sake of literature. But if just half of these details are accurate....

Salt Lake City, UT

Awesome! Just awesome. Too many times we judge too early, especially at BYU. I'm a BYU grad and former athlete who believes in and lived the Honor Code, but I've questioned at times the manner it which it is administered. We kick people out of school for reasons that we DON'T kick people out of the Church. The standard at BYU is HIGHER than it is the Church and that needs to be revisited (ie we don't send people home from the temple for having beards and we don't excommunicate 22 year olds for sexual sins). The result has been a culture of "busting" your neighbor for not living the letter of the law. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is a gospel of making bad men good and good men better, but BYU's administration of the Honor Code has at times given the impression that young people who make mistakes have no place or hope. Here's to more stories like these.

Solomon Levi
Alpine, UT


You have absolutely no proof that BYU's Honor Code is applied any differently to athletes versus non-athletes, in fact, both Van Noy and Davies received much harsher punishments in terms of personal reputation because their "dirty laundry" was aired in public, whereas, the punishment for most non-athletes would only be known to close family and friends.

Saint Paul, MN

I've loved sports since I was old enough to pick-up a ball. I started playing organized sports at age 8 and have been privileged to win a number of league and even national championships. I started coaching (on a MUCH lower level) at age 19, and have been blessed with the opportunity to work with youth and adults on more than 25 teams.

But I love people in general, infinitely more than sports at large.

These articles show exactly what "coaching" should be about. Winning championships is cool. Winning at life is the real measure of a champion, and you can only do that by helping other people do so as well. I've learned an awful lot from many coaches for whom I played. But it is the ones who wanted to help me as a person first, that I truly came to love.

It is fairly obvious that that is Bronco Mendenhall's #1 priority, and he has found the perfect school to match his priorities. No doubt, they want to win. But their foremost goal is strengthening people ... and they live that first, as this article and others portray. Kudos to Kyle for stepping up as well.

Sports Are Great
Salt Lake City, UT

USALover, while I understand your point, and we've heard the same argument many times before, here is why I have a hard time arguing with the honor code. Do you know who the Chairman of the Board of BYU is? President Monson. If he wanted something changed at BYU, it would be changed. He could make a call to President Samuelson at byu and tell him to change the honor code/enforcement and it would be changed immediately. So we're then left to assume either President Monson doesn't know what is going on a byu, agrees with what is going on at byu, or is simply handling things incorrectly(according to you). I guess I'm going to lean towards he agrees with what is going on at BYU.

Salt Lake City, UT

Floyd Johnson

What are you mumbling about?

If football were the top priority for Bronco and BYU, as you seem to be suggesting, Kyle's "youthful indiscretion" would have been swept under the rug and fans and the school would have forgotten about it long before KVN arrived on campus.

Salt Lake City, UT


Are you implying Brandon Davies wasn't punished?

My memory is that he was removed from the basketball team, his name splashed in newspapers from coast to coast, his sins broadcast on major news networks and an embarrassing dismissal from school. What more were you hoping for? A flogging? A public scourging?

Brandon Davies is a fantastic example of a kid who made serious mistakes and made them right. In my mind, he has every place at BYU and in my Ward Council, for that matter.

Would the sky fall or the Church be less true, if we changed policy at BYU and let repentent young people who have sinned stay in school, keep their spot on teams/clubs, avoid public humiliation and scorn from people who represent the "other Prodigal" and simply don't understand the Atonement, the purposes of mortality and grander picture of God's work in people's lives?

Provo, UT

Tons of respect to KVN and Bronco. Great story. Makes you wonder if Manti Teo would have been better served to go to BYU. Maybe the BYU environment and Bronco influence could have helped him avoid the trouble that caused him so much scrutiny and negative backlash that he experienced his last year at Notre Dame. You got to wonder.

I really respect kids like KVN that make mistakes and own up to them. Shows a lot of maturity.

Salt Lake City, UT

Sports Are Great

I love the Honor Code. I lived it. I'm not "arguing" with the Honor Code, nor do I want it changed. I want us to revisit how Administrators council with, discipline and correct YOUNG PEOPLE who make mistakes. And similarly to how we have changed Church Discipline in the last 3 years (and if you're not aware of those changes, seek out your Stake President and ask him), we need to change the way we discipline kids at BYU.

For heaven sake, let's all exchange our long lists of rules and start living principles. In the process, we might find greater light and joy in the Gospel. And in the process maybe we wouldn't be number one in the nation in Anti-Depressant medication and top ten in suicide. Good people make mistakes, everybody falls short of the standard, we all need Him. And if you don't understand what I'm talking about now, you eventually will. Let's stop...STOP...judging people for sinning differently than we do. Enough...

Sports Are Great
Salt Lake City, UT

USAlover, I really don't mean this as confrontational, but I think maybe you missed my point. My whole point is President Monson can change anything he wants at byu, whenever he wants to.

The fact that byu is run a certain way(including the enforcement and discipline associated with the honor code) leads me to believe that is how President Monson wants it handled. If he wanted it handled differently, he'd change it. It would only take one phone call and immediately the discipline would be changed. And yet why hasn't President Monson changed it? My guess is he supports how things are being done.

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