What a great time for a comment. Having lived in Europe for ten years, I learned
of a loving humble manor of burial, with the average cost of $400. for all
services rendered. We are all victimized by free temple calenders handed out
each December for the local funeral home. Please consider the concept of
PROVIDENT DYING, not just provident living. Men build your own simple burial
boxes and not leave your loved ones with thousands of dollars of debt, and leave
that money in the perpetual education fund. Embalming is not required by law.
We recently placed our family marker on our cemetery lot, followed by the sweet
feeling of being prepared. Cremation is only less expensive than burial,
if you just plan ahead, and practice PROVIDENT DYING.
I want to be cremeated and have my kids scatter my ashes across the world at
When our son was dying of cancer he requested that he be cremated, we honored
his request. A small family and friends memorial service was held; his ashes
placed in the family burial plot and a headstone placed with his photo engraved
into it, etched with his name, and birth/death dates. Very simple without the
big fan fair associated with a traditional funeral. The simplicity of it seemed
so very appropriate.
LDS Church policy works for me. Consider the circumstances and let the family
decide. Those who quote Old Testament scripture in this matter
probably had bacon for breakfast. And none of them have offered animal
sacrifice at the temple. "Where there is no vision, the people
perish." (Proverbs 29:18)
Lawyers and bankers took all my grandparents and relatives' money and land
away. So guess what? Cremation ended up being the cheapest, and for our needs,
the only option. I have heard some here (and elsewhere) quote scriptures and
policy. We who are Christians, having faith in Jesus Christ, ought to believe
that no matter how someone dies or is buried, the Atonement of Jesus Christ
covers every soul who has ever lived. I hope that the bankers, lawyers,
trustees, etc. who were the greediest in taking every acre of land we had will
enjoy their lavish funerals, because when it's all said and done, we all
need Jesus Christ more than we need an expensive coffin and well-watered burial
plot. The orthodox Jews have the pine coffin option, because they know we all
end up in the same place.
The plain pine box is a "by request only" option...no mortuary will tell
you about it, unless you ask. They go so far as to hide the box in a very nice
facade at the funeral, and they will NOT allow the funeral party to see the box
buried, so there's no casket at the open graveside type thing.But I'm with the folks that think the cremation thing is more about
economics than religion...the fact that religion is accepting cremation is
secondary to that.As far as the religion thing goes...are we saying
that a good Christian man who dies by being burned in a fire is in peril of
losing his immortal soul?I really don't see God as being that
There is no scripture prohibiting cremation, nor any scriptural basis for the
Church to discourage cremation.
There is another alternative, it's called natural burial. In this case the
body is not embalmed and is buried in a simple pine box without a concrete
vault. This allows the body to decay rapidly, as nature intended. It is much
cheaper and more natural.
Red and Prodicus both bring up points that should be major concerns to everyone.
The expense and waste associated with traditional funerals and burials is
staggering. And all to comfort the living, to give them a feeling of honoring
the loved deceased.While I am not necessarily a proponent of
cremation, I am most definitely not fan of the waste and expense associated with
traditional burials. I have cautioned my wife and children, that if they put me
in anything but the cheapest casket and vault, I will come back and haunt
them.All kidding aside, there are better things to spend money on
than burying our loved ones. Honor them by doing good with that money.
True, cremation was seen as a pagan practice. But embalming was even more so.
The standard practice of most Christians through the ages, still followed by
orthodox Jews and Muslims, is natural burial, allowing the body to decompose
rapidly. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.In the US alone, every year we
bury more than 30 million board feet of hardwood, 104,000 tons of steel, 2,700
tons of copper and bronze, and 1,636,000 tons of reinforced concrete, and we use
close to a million gallons of embalming fluid (normally anywhere from 5% to 30%
formaldehyde). This is a waste of resources and a $17 billion drain on the
economy, an environmental disaster, and a serious financial strain on the
bereaved. Why do we do it? Because our culture has absorbed essentially pagan
attitudes about trying to stave off decomposition as long as possible and
burying people with nice things to wake up in the afterlife with. Sorry, guys,
you can't take it with you, and that includes your casket.Both
natural burials and cremation are economically, environmentally, and morally
preferable to our present death industry.
I was curious being LDS what the church says about cremation so here it is out
of the handbook from LDS org21.3.2CremationThe Church
does not normally encourage cremation. The family of the deceased must decide
whether the body should be cremated, taking into account any laws governing
burial or cremation. In some countries, the law requires cremation.Where possible, the body of a deceased member who has been endowed should be
dressed in temple clothing when it is cremated. A funeral service may be held
Reading these comments I am reminded of the Scripture: "Each man did what
was right in his own eyes." In other words, God's people ignore:
"What sayeth the Lord". In the OT, cremation was reserved for witches,
and always, always God's servants were laid to rest, 'the the
earth' or in a hollowed out rock. Never were saints burned for
'convenience' sake to save money. It is not God honoring to be
cremated.Should a Christian be cremated, in order to save money?
According to the Scriptures, it is a curse for a dead body not to be buried (I
Kings 21:23-35)! Part of the cursed prophesied by God's prophet Elijah was
that she should not be buried, but her body would be eaten by dogs (I Kings
21:23-35Cremation was not practiced by early Israelites and not by
early Christians. Historically, secular and Biblically, it was and is a pagan
rite, and God commands we are not to follow pagan rites. He who has ears, let
My mother worked in a mortuary as a teenager and found the whole embalming
process to be 'gross' so she has requested to be cremated immediately
without any embalming. It really does come down to personal preference unless
you live in a place like Hong Kong where it is required.
Though I was resistant to the idea of cremation when I was younger because of a
dislike of the thought of someone's body being consumed by flames,
I've now decided to have my body cremated simply because I would prefer
flames than having my body consumed by bacteria and worms. Plus, as mentioned
elsewhere, it's a whole lot less expensive and I'd rather have my
beneficiaries receive the money than a cemetery.
I read an article recently stating cremation is not "Green" for the
environment. Will that effect people desires to be cremated rather than burial?
Let the dead bury the dead.The living have better things to do with
the money instead of paying $10k to a funeral home.Go be with your
kids! Pay for more education so they can thrive in this crazy world.Anything is better than wasting it.
With more Christian Churches showing a tolerance for Cremation and the costs
being considerably less than purchasing a plot, casket, and vault more people
are deciding to be cremated. Unfortunately, this will not continue as the costs
of cremation will be raised closer to the costs of burial so some Funeral Homes
can continue to make large profits.