The jury is no longer out. The U's defensive line is mediocre at best.
The loss of Joe Krueger has hit the Utes hard. Orchard was a flop tonight.
Reilly was predictably tough. The others just weren't good enough. And
that was against a depleted offensive line.
Checkmate to StG.
Bruin: "There is not more DII, you have to understand the changes.
Regardless, this is why I don't like Utah fans, you quiver at the small
things."I assume you meant "no more DII," and yes, there
is a Division-II in NCAA, Dixie State University is a member. And you just
proved yourself to be the same type of person as the Utah fans you
"don't like", "quivering at the small things." You were the
one that brought the distinction up, although you were wrong about it.
Truth be told, Reilly has looked much better than Orchard. I'm more
concerned about that second defensive tackle and I'd like to have a third
DT that is also effective. So far, I haven't seen it. Additionally, our D ends had a lot of trouble last year with the read option.
That could be a problem for the Utes. But, first things first. Beat the
worf:The win-loss record last year was not a reflection of our Defense but
a reflection of how bad our Offense was. But don't forget that even in a
down year for Utah we still beat BYU ; )
As a Ute fan I think the Utes pull out a win but I don't know why many
think we will dominate the Beavers. This is a team that won 9 games last year
and has some good talent on it. I think Mannion will be able to throw on our
secondary and just because their O-Line has issues doesn't mean it will
automatically be bad this game. In fact, look what happened when BYU re-shuffled
their O-Line against Texas. BUt like I said, I think the Utes win but by a close
margin. I also think we haven't seen Utah play to their full potential
which excites me as a fan. Go Utes!
WorfSo are you saying that the cougs have a pride issue? I would
tend to agree. Blocked!54-10Doink!Go Utes!
@StGtoSLCThere is not more DII, you have to understand the changes.
Regardless, this is why I don't like Utah fans, you quiver at the small
things. May the Beavers go big tomorrow. GO BEAVERS!
Proud Ute, the Trib reported a couple weeks ago that Blechen had surgery. If
it's the procedure I'm thinking it is, it usually means a 3-6 week
rehab before considering return to play.
@RBNI do agree that the defense still has much to prove but
Utah's defense did show signs of being good, in the 2nd half after being
down 14-23 against Utah State holding them to 85 yards and 3 points. Before
that point I thought Utah looked horrible, both offense and defense. So if Utah's defense continues to play like they did in the 2nd half
against USU then look for a big win over Oregon State.Go UTES!
Is Blechen playing?Not one comment mentioning him so far.
Do you want me to remind you how many lineman from Utah are in the NFL? So why
the poor win loss record of last year?In fact, has Bronco gotten
even a single lineman drafted in the NFL draft, yet his cougars win more games
than the utes?Utah's walk ons could handle BYU's line.
Even Ziggy last year. And likely they will after the game is out of reach for
BYU in 2 weeks.Remember 54-10? Pride precedes the fall.
Bruin, if you're going to play semantics, FCS is formerly Div-I AA, Div-II
is the classification below that.
I would not get to confident Ute fans. To read some of these comments, it is
apparent, not many even know who EW is, the team who beat OSU. So they are an
FCS team, Div II to others who do not know that was changed. They have a wining
tradition there, they average roughly 30 to 40 points per game and it does not
matter if they are playing an FCS or FBS school. OSU is injured, but this will
be no walk in the park for the Utes. EW could compete and probably get bowl
eligible if they played in a FBS conference. So just because they beat Oregon
State, it does not make Oregon State a bad team. I say OSU puts up, 20+
points.Doesn't mean I am right, but I hope so. Oregon State 24
@TFUDD:"Utah's defensive front brings some impressive
credentials into the contest. Senior tackle Tenny Palepoi and Orchard are tied
for the conference lead with 3 1/2 tackles for loss."What game
were you watching? Orchard was one of the reasons the Utes beat USU, even the
commentators said so. Besides, the Utes are 2-0, looking to go 3-0, and things
are improving each game. Remember: when you think about it, the glass is always
100% full!Go Utes!
@ Samurai JakeNate Orchard has played well but he's far from
"Tearing it up"! Everyone played well against Weber State BUT of course
they did, it's Weber Sate. Against USU he missed out on quite a few
tackles/TFL/Sacks. His overall stats have been pretty good but if he was
"tearing it up" like u say then his stats would be shining just a bit
This defensive line is good, how good? Let's not rush to judge, we are two
games into the season. HUGE game Saturday.GO UTES
The defensive line is not the best the Utes have ever had. It's not as good
as last year's, and last year's was not the best we've had. The
best I've seen was the 2004 team. That front had as much to do with 12-0 in
dominating fashion as the high octane offense did. Pouha, Fifita and Fanene were
all not just NFL players, but solid starters for several years, and Ledbetter
and Burnett were no slouches bookending the opposite side of Fanene, either.
This year's line is good and has good depth, but isn't in the same
ballpark as that starting line.
I disagree with RBN as well. Orchard has been tearing it up right along with
Palepoi. Riley is a freaking stud, and they will continue to call his name many
times over throughout each game.Thank goodness Coach Whit has
continued to produce talented defensive fronts. Now that Wilson and Co. are
showing that the offense can score, things are looking more like a 1-2 punch.
I'm excited for their potential moving forward in the PAC-12!Go
UoU1991 is right, this OSU OL is in shambles. We're going to wipe the
floor with the Beavers this Saturday. We'll soon be 4-0 with a
top 25 ranking, and well on our way to 8-4 or 9-3.
I think this is the best defensive line Utah has ever had, and definately the
"Talented Utah defensive line charged with getting to Oregon State QB Sean
Mannion"Shouldn't be a problem. OSU's OL has been
decimated by injuries/illness. The Beavers only have 7 healthy offensive linemen
available, most of them backups when the season began.Forget
OSU's preseason top 25 ranking; there's no excuse for the Utes not
dominating a team that couldn't even handle Eastern Washington.
I disagree RBN. Through the first two games, Nate Orchard is right up there with
Palepoi as our best DL and I think Heimuli has also been playing well in his
minutes.Trevor Reilly isn't the clear-cut best line player that
I expected him to be but I think that has more to do with how well the others
are playing rather than Reilly not living up to expectations. Plus he is
stretched out a little with having to play all over the field.With
Palepoi, Orchard, and Reilly as All PAC-12 caliber players and Heimuli, Tevi,
Tuipulotu and the others providing depth, I see this line as being potentially
as good as any we've ever had. But I think you're right when you say
they still have much to prove but I'm still encouraged by how well they
played against USU.
I just don't see us losing this game. The offense is clicking, the defense
is solid. Oregon state lost to a division II team. I think the only way we lose
this game is if we have a negative 3 in the turnover margin, which is unlikely.
Anything is possible I guess, but I think this is a win all day long.
Nice, level headed thinking on the d-line.Can't wait for
I'm a Ute fan, but I wouldn't call Utah's defensive front
talented... at least not yet. They still have much to prove. Other than
Palepoi another DT has not really proved himself. I think Sam Tevi shows
promise. The jury is still out on this D Line. I hope it shows us
that it is a talented front.