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Published: Tuesday, Sept. 10 2013 2:34 p.m. MDT

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nhatch82
Eagle Mountain, UT

@Henry Drummond

"It seems there should be some accounting for "strength of the offensive line." Both Utah and Utah State keep their Quarterbacks standing on two feet a lot more than BYU's. I suspect that Hill's passing would improve considerably if he didn't have as much company in the backfield from the opposing team."

Taysom Hill has been sacked 3 times this year for a loss of 15 yards
Travis Wilson has been sacked 3 times this year for a loss of 19 yards
Chuckie Keeton has been sacked 3 times this year for a loss of 24 yards

I fail to see your point

Waylon77
Logan, UT

I don't think its a coincidence that the author listed them in the order of "Keeton, Wilson and Hill" in the title of the article. Just Saying.

Down under
Salt Lake City, UT

Well if I played high schools teams I would ranked high too. Wait until Wilson plays a real team and we will see the number take a nose dive.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Weber State Graduate: "Let's see Wilson's stats against schools like Oregon, UCLA, Arizona, and Stanford before the chest thumping begins about how great Wilson is."

Vs. Arizona: 28-40, 311 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INT
Vs. UCLA: 23-33, 220 yards, 1 INT (was forced to come off field for Hays' TD pass for having his helmet knocked off after carrying the ball to the 1 yard line the previous play)

That was last year with less experience and less polish in a less productive offense. Accurate passes are accurate passes, regardless of opponent. Be as ignorant as you want to it, but he's shown he can throw them against good teams as well as he has awful teams in ugly purple uniforms.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Down under: "Well if I played high schools teams I would ranked high"

How did you not win the job over Riley last year then?

Weber State Graduate
Clearfield, UT

"...he's shown he can throw them against good teams as well as he has awful teams in ugly purple uniforms."

Oh, now it’s the other team’s ugly purple uniforms that make him such a football king slayer. Gotta love some of these Ute fans like StGtoSLC with their superior intellectual skills that allows such cerebral giants to make such a correlation.

Good enough...let's just wait and see how he stacks up after Pac 12 play this year, ugly uniforms and all.

AgVikBronc
Preston, ID

Every one of you guys on here bashing the guy from the other team are all just a bunch of liars if you can say you weren't cheering on the Cougars as Hill had a career day and the Y thumped Texas. It's good for all three teams when they all win and it's good for the state. With Hoffman and Apo on the outside, there aren't many teams in the nation that will try and stack the box against BYU to sell out on the run.
As in the USU/UofU game I am not bold enough to try and predict a winner in any of the in-state matchups this year, I believe all three games can (could have) go either way. Any one on here who says their team will win with 100% confidence is delirious (uh hem, Chris B)
Stats don't lie, Keeton and Wilson are beasts and Hill is pretty darn tough too. As for now, Keeton gets the nod will Wilson as a close second

wwookie
Payson, UT

Wow Cougsndawgs, really?

Hilll has "minor" problems throwing the ball? You think they're easily corrected? Or are you trying to discredit everything you've ever said? Pretty sure Hill wasn't trying to "correct" those problems over the last 7 months....

Kool Aid must be good, drink up.

ekute
Layton, UT

Down under,

The Utes will play a real team this Saturday and then another one 2 weeks from Saturday.

Tators
Hyrum, UT

@ ekute:

It sounds like you're saying that the Utes won't be playing at all a week from this Saturday.
That must mean you are planning on them just rolling over and playing dead.
Either that, or you're saying that BYU is greater than an ordinary "real" team and that the Utes are scared of them.
But either way... Come on man, show a little confidence in your Utes!
We both know BYU will be beating them, but it won't be as bad as you're making it out to be.

Tators
Hyrum, UT

@ wwookie:

The Kool Aid some of us have been drinking is indeed really good. And yes, we are drinking up... thank you.
You should try some.
It's the kind that turns any red drink blue on it's way down.
And man, is it ever refreshing!
It might even make you into a real believer in True Blue.
And if that doesn't, the game in 10 days certainly will.

Complimentary
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Uteology and Christy B and all other proud utes: I love the way you guys think and I hope you continue to think that way, that Taysom can't pass, that he's one-dimensional, that the utes will simply stop the run and win easily, that you can leave your secondary to play one on one with Cody and Skyler etc. Yeah, keep thinking that way!

Clark W. Griswold
Sandy, Utah

@ Down Under

"Well if I played high schools teams I would ranked high too"

Taysom Hill will get his chance playing two high school teams on Sept. 27 (Middle Tennessee) and November 16th (Idaho State). Maybe he'll have better success throwing the ball against those high school teams, since he obviously can't throw the ball on "real teams".

"Wait until Wilson plays a real team and we will see the number take a nose dive"

The same can be said about Chuckie Keeton and Taysom Hill! Let's see them lead their teams playing a BCS conference schedule. You can bet their numbers will take a nose dive.

jdub1942
PROVO, UT

AgVikBronc,
As a Ute fan, and trying not to hate on the Cougars as that isnt healthy, I was glad to watch Hill have a career day. Do I want him to have another a week from Saturday? Of course not, and I don't necessarily want to see BYU do super well, because that gives Y fans big heads, and as a rival, that annoys me. But, as it's just a game and people are more important than that, I want to see BYU be successful.
My concern for Hill is that his performance is unsustainable. I think Hill is a formidable runner, but that Texas game was quite flukey. I say that because I dont think their will be many teams that ill prepared against the Cougars. A solid game plan and Hill will be largely contained, as he is not nearly as skilled as a runner as Keaton imo. The problem is that he isnt enough of a passing threat. Although, I think his level of suckiness in the throw game is also unsustainable. He is bound to improve, but I dont think he will be a threat throwing come the 21st.
Go Utes!

The Solution
Las Cruces, NM

ekUte: Our Heisman winning QB spent 14 years in the NFL. He wasn't played because he was too small, but they had to keep him around because he was/is a QB genius. He is currently coaching a Texas high school team and he regularly makes appearances at BYU events. Your comments are wrong and way off base.

The Solution
Las Cruces, NM

U 90: I concur with what you said, with one correction. Most of Hills inaccurate passes have been high and right, going long not short. Yes there have been some short, low passes, but most bad passes have been overthrown.

This is important because it is easier to correct overthrown inaccuracies than it is to fix arm strength.

The Solution
Las Cruces, NM

One last thing. The accuracy issues have been a recent development. Taysom was doing well his freshman year, and he was doing great during camp.

He has a bad case of the jitters, but he will correct them.

Go Big Blue!!!
Bountiful, UT

Chuckie has been amazing ever since his first game as a freshman. One of those rare players that can carry a team. I want to thank the cougars for sealing the deal with Keeton for USU.

The last time the y played in Cache Valley Chuckie was visiting as a recruit. When he saw the Aggies dominate the entire game and as Keeton witnessed the great crowd reaction he was sold.

It will be fun to have the y return next month.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Weber grad: "Oh, now it’s the other team’s ugly purple uniforms that make him such a football king slayer."

Where in my response did I say that? That seems like your own intellectual ability making that correlation. Let me spell this out for you. Weber wears ugly purple unis. Weber is not a good football team when compared to Utah, and Travis torched them. These statements are inconsequential of each other.

I'd love for Travis to consistently have games like he has so far this year, one against a good team, one against a lesser team. Will each and every game have similar production from him? Most likely not. But he's already shown he can throw successful games against the PAC, so your prediction of his downfall just looks uneducated.

Cougsndawgs
West Point , UT

wwookie:
"Hilll has "minor" problems throwing the ball? You think they're easily corrected? Or are you trying to discredit everything you've ever said? Pretty sure Hill wasn't trying to "correct" those problems over the last 7 months...."

Whether you like it or not, aiming the ball & rushing passes are minor, correctable issues. Some of it has to do with nerves, some of it has to do with an inexperienced O-line that has Taysom rushing passes instead of settling and setting his feet. How in the world does that discredit other things I've said? I've said he has a slower release but in college you can get away with that more than the pros...just ask Wilson, who has one of the slowest ugliest sidearm releases I've seen this side of Jordan Wynn. Taysom just needs to settle down and stop trying to throw rockets and aiming the ball. His release needs work as well as some of his mechanics, but at this level those aren't as big an issue (see Tim Tebow). As The Solution pointed out, he had no accuracy issues in 2013 and IMO it was because he wasn't rushing.

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